The Glorious Vincent Browne Idolatry Thread

vgv

Jess16 wrote: »

Vincent is the only person in this country who doesn't just ask the questions we all want answered but actually persists in pursuing the answer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAf7J4a_T1g

I wouldnt agree with everything he says but he is tenacious,cuts through waffle and spin and doesnt seem beholden to or afraid to ask hard questions of anybody he interviews.I have respect for him.

Hande hoche!

Just noticed the poll options now. Whoops. Off to bed.

Nodin

Lone Stone wrote: »

Vincent Browne is a legend !! i wish he was my dad.

....not when you stagger in the door on Monday morning, at 17 pissed, having been gone since Friday morning and the interrogation begins......

hidinginthebush

zenno wrote: »

the facts stand out in relation to you're comment, as in you are a hypocrite.

I can't think he looks funny but also commend his taking on of the establishment?

zenno

hidinginthebush wrote: »

I can't think he looks funny but also commend his taking on of the establishment?

here's a gold star with tities all over it for you but you're comment still makes no sense. imo vincent is doing a great job, he is the only Irish person that has the balls to question the pricks in government running this damaged country and also the braindead uneducated in english speak from the e.u.

I wouldn't lower myself to type e.u in caps because it's the biggest fcukup we ever encountered. and before others get in and attack me, piss off.

10green bottles

He is no Aidan Cooney let me tell you.He is a disgruntled wee feck thats always on the pull on the programme,that sly wee smile would melt you>>>>

Freddie59

vgv wrote: »

I wouldnt agree with everything he says but he is tenacious,cuts through waffle and spin and doesnt seem beholden to or afraid to ask hard questions of anybody he interviews.I have respect for him.

That's the first time I heard the whole thing. As usual, the spin on our media was the smug 'aren't the Irish great' at the opening.

Vincent Browne is to be admired for his stance, while the other "journalists" in the room were fawning adulation on the smart-assed, derogatory remarks passed by the Eurocrat at the beginning. It's a pity there aren't more like VB.

Well done man.

dxhound2005

I'm cynical about a man who has known only privelege all his life pretending to have the concerns of ordinary people at heart. Five years in a private fee paying school followed by university when it was the preserve of the rich. Lived in a large house in Dalkey until recently (sold at €2.7m generating a vast profit) and apparently now has to downgrade to one worth about €1.5m.

As far as him knowing how the country could get out of it's current difficulties, his ventures in business would not suggest that he knows much about that subject. And of course he is a failed politician as well having been rejected by Fine Gael.

emo72

dxhound2005 wrote: »

I'm cynical about a man who has known only privelege all his life pretending to have the concerns of ordinary people at heart. Five years in a private fee paying school followed by university when it was the preserve of the rich. Lived in a large house in Dalkey until recently (sold at €2.7m generating a vast profit) and apparently now has to downgrade to one worth about €1.5m.

As far as him knowing how the country could get out of it's current difficulties, his ventures in business would not suggest that he knows much about that subject. And of course he is a failed politician as well having been rejected by Fine Gael.

well educated privileged rich people can have empathy for poor people. Is he not entitled to speak about the subject unless he comes from a ghetto?

I dont know if he considers himself wealthy but he was forced to sell his home to pay some debts. i dont think it matters where you are placed in society, rich and poor people are able to see injustice equally as well.

as for his business failing. big deal. he is a tryer,he had a go. he has the ability to have his own programme on a tv station. he is very much a doer.

dont give a crap if he has the appearance of an aging leprechaun, or if he goes out on the razz at the weekend, or stutters when he asks a question.

He focussed peoples minds this week, in relations to crippling payments that we have to pay FOR NO GOOD REASON, so give the man his due. he ****ing earned it.

44leto

Vincent Browne the Irish Paxman but much better, I bow down to him.

Freddie59

dxhound2005 wrote: »

I'm cynical about a man who has known only privelege all his life pretending to have the concerns of ordinary people at heart. Five years in a private fee paying school followed by university when it was the preserve of the rich. Lived in a large house in Dalkey until recently (sold at €2.7m generating a vast profit) and apparently now has to downgrade to one worth about €1.5m.

As far as him knowing how the country could get out of it's current difficulties, his ventures in business would not suggest that he knows much about that subject. And of course he is a failed politician as well having been rejected by Fine Gael.

But what, precisely, does all of the above have to do with the topic under discussion? Here is a man who - literally - took the bull by the horns, while his "peers" giggled like nincompoops at this guy's patronising remarks.

Vincent Browne articulated what the silent majority are complaining about: a debt which has NOTHING to do with this country being shouldered by the taxpayer. It is criminal to say the least. The very capitalist system which prides itself on succeed or fail turned the whole thing on its head for European banks. At OUR expense.

How is it that the people 'in charge' will not acknowledge this? Becasue they want to keep going back to the trough to the tune of E400m in order to keep paying the ludicrous PS wage bill and our over-generous SW bill. That's why.

And that clown Howlin agreeing with incremental pay increases during the week. Do ANY of these people have any touch with reality - AT ALL?

Toby Take a Bow

His TV show can be uncomfortable watching, for two reasons. Firstly, his interviewing technique is something which we don't really do in Ireland. I think somebody said VB is Ireland's Paxman: he rarely lets people away with bullsh*t, and pursues them until their spin just looks ridiculous. And that's great, but it really does show the shocking lack of people prepared to do that in Ireland. Secondly, TV3 don't seem to know how to properly televise shows like that, so VB's head always look weirdly stretched (from cheek to cheek) and there are lots of weird awkward pauses and his occasional glances directly into the camera are a bit odd. Great show, though. And the question he asked that everyone's talking about needed to be asked, regardless of the answer he received. In fact, the 'non-answer' was revealing in and of itself.

dxhound2005

Freddie59 wrote: »

But what, precisely, does all of the above have to do with the topic under discussion? Here is a man who - literally - took the bull by the horns, while his "peers" giggled like nincompoops at this guy's patronising remarks.

Vincent Browne articulated what the silent majority are complaining about: a debt which has NOTHING to do with this country being shouldered by the taxpayer. It is criminal to say the least. The very capitalist system which prides itself on succeed or fail turned the whole thing on its head for European banks. At OUR expense.

How is it that the people 'in charge' will not acknowledge this? Becasue they want to keep going back to the trough to the tune of E400m in order to keep paying the ludicrous PS wage bill and our over-generous SW bill. That's why.

And that clown Howlin agreeing with incremental pay increases during the week. Do ANY of these people have any touch with reality - AT ALL?

There are about 300,000 PS workers and they are not some self contained element of society. Some of them must have family members or relations who are in the private sector. The PS wage bill is due to fall by €400m this year and will have fallen by around 20% in the period 2008-2015 (if you can believe the "clown" Howlin and RTE).

http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/1205/budget3-business.html

The opposite to paying increments is new workers remaining on their starting wage until some version of the National Wages Agreement comes back (which will be never I would say). I agree some SW payments are overgenerous e.g. Child Benefit to millionaires and automatic entitlements to rich people over 70.

Whatever about being a majority they are hardly silent, all I hear is burn the bondholders and the politicians haven't a clue and VB with his faux outrage. Maybe the reality is more complicated when it comes to actually dealing with it and the likes of Joan Collins and Mick Wallace would not provide the solution so easily if they had to exercise power.

Freddie59

dxhound2005 wrote: »

There are about 300,000 PS workers and they are not some self contained element of society. Some of them must have family members or relations who are in the private sector. The PS wage bill is due to fall by €400m this year and will have fallen by around 20% in the period 2008-2015 (if you can believe the "clown" Howlin and RTE).

http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/1205/budget3-business.html

The opposite to paying increments is new workers remaining on their starting wage until some version of the National Wages Agreement comes back (which will be never I would say). I agree some SW payments are overgenerous e.g. Child Benefit to millionaires and automatic entitlements to rich people over 70.

Whatever about being a majority they are hardly silent, all I hear is burn the bondholders and the politicians haven't a clue and VB with his faux outrage. Maybe the reality is more complicated when it comes to actually dealing with it and the likes of Joan Collins and Mick Wallace would not provide the solution so easily if they had to exercise power.

The Government can't burn the bondholders because we're going cap in hand to them for 400m every Monday - BECAUSE of PS wages and SW bill. Simple as that.

This is a pretty easy situation to understand. A private company loaded money to another that couldn't repay it. And suddenly the taxpayer has to pick up the tab? I don't think so.

Regarding increments - the solution is - hello - NOT TO PAY THEM. If this were a private company there would be wage freezes and redundancies. But in the Fairy land that is the PS/CS there is no concept of this. Only to put the country in deeper debt. Withe the consent of Howlin & Co. A fcuking joke shop.

woodoo

Freddie59 wrote: »

Regarding increments - the solution is - hello - NOT TO PAY THEM. If this were a private company there would be wage freezes and redundancies. But in the Fairy land that is the PS/CS there is no concept of this. Only to put the country in deeper debt. Withe the consent of Howlin & Co. A fcuking joke shop.

The solution if they must claw back money form the PS is a small paycut (not that i'm calling for that though). Increments must stay for all current employees.

token101

woodoo wrote: »

Increments must stay for all current employees.

Why? I'm on a pay freeze at my work after a pay cut, I'm lucky to be in work. Why should I now pay more tax for teachers to get a pay rise?

john reilly

emo72 wrote: »

well educated privileged rich people can have empathy for poor people. Is he not entitled to speak about the subject unless he comes from a ghetto?

I dont know if he considers himself wealthy but he was forced to sell his home to pay some debts. i dont think it matters where you are placed in society, rich and poor people are able to see injustice equally as well.

as for his business failing. big deal. he is a tryer,he had a go. he has the ability to have his own programme on a tv station. he is very much a doer.

dont give a crap if he has the appearance of an aging leprechaun, or if he goes out on the razz at the weekend, or stutters when he asks a question.

He focussed peoples minds this week, in relations to crippling payments that we have to pay FOR NO GOOD REASON, so give the man his due. he ****ing earned it.

its easy to be a socialist when you are rich enough not to have to worry that its the working class, who ends up paying for the wouldnt work on batteries class. its easy to spend your day critcising and asking the hard questions, its not as easy to come up with the answers, which would be a lot more helpful. just look at the list of are top socialist, eamon gilmore, v.b and any union leaders. they would make bertie look like a pauper. they make me laugh

Freddie59

john reilly wrote: »

its easy to be a socialist when you are rich enough not to have to worry that its the working class, who ends up paying for the wouldnt work on batteries class. its easy to spend your day critcising and asking the hard questions, its not as easy to come up with the answers, which would be a lot more helpful. just look at the list of are top socialist, eamon gilmore, v.b and any union leaders. they would make bertie look like a pauper. they make me laugh

Have to agree. But when did you see Happy Gilmore take the ECB to task like VB did?