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What do you think of sending condolences via text?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    that's a retarded thing to say. so friendship all depends on being able to attend a funeral?? even if they've emigrated to the other side of the world??

    I have travelled home to Ireland for a friends funeral in the past. I know other's who have done the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,379 ✭✭✭CarrickMcJoe


    So eventually the grieving family members could just leave their IPhones in a row beside the corpse going beep beep beep all friggin night.
    No need for wakes!
    Call in person or a card imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    In fairness, these day even bessie mates have been seperated from each other because of emigration. It's not possible for an increasing amount of people to console their closest friends personally anymore.

    Pretty sure they have phones in most parts of the world by now.

    Would you text a mate who lost someone or ring them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 475 ✭✭candlegrease


    irish-stew wrote: »
    The day I recieve a condolance via txt or FB, or any other social media, not only would I be insulted, I would also possibly defriend you. Write or call, or dont bother at all.

    http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTXeMYRQkW_eQ09ka_sz_SPreqkdfUXyTPpzsV35DyBYdEfePRP

    TBH with that attitude I don't think you'll have to worry about having too many friends to be defriending.

    It's "condolence" and "receive" BTW.

    I went ahead and sent the text anyway, and it was well received, insofar as these things can be "well received".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    Pretty sure they have phones in most parts of the world by now.

    Would you text a mate who lost someone or ring them?

    Some people are no good in these situations, txt is the easy way for them to say sorry for you loss and I'm thinking of you.
    Some of us are good with funerals, others hate them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    The way I look at it is a text is exactly the same as a card in theory, just without the stupid picture and pre-printed poem. You write the same thing on it so why is one considered so much better?

    Unless I got "sry 4 ur lss xxx", then the sender is getting kickpunched.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,944 ✭✭✭✭4zn76tysfajdxp


    Pretty sure they have phones in most parts of the world by now.

    Would you text a mate who lost someone or ring them?

    Probably ring them, if I had credit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,940 ✭✭✭ballsymchugh


    Retarded? Read the title of the thread, with that in mind, read the words of posts in context. I can use pictures if it'll help you.

    Of course sometimes you can't make a funeral, but this wouldn't stop a person ringing a mate if they lost someone. Under no circumstances would I text a friend who lost a loved one. If I was to consider texting someone they clearly would not be a mate and wouldn't expect a text from me.

    you said that someone who couldn't attend the funeral of a friend's family member wasn't exactly a good mate, and yes, that is a ridiculous thing to say.
    hondasam wrote: »
    I have travelled home to Ireland for a friends funeral in the past. I know other's who have done the same.

    so have i. but then again i'm in the uk, so it's no big deal for me. but irish funerals are done and dusted in a couple of days, and it just may not be possible for someone far away to get off work and fly home. that doesn't mean they're one bit less of a friend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,079 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


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    TBH with that attitude I don't think you'll have to worry about having too many friends to be defriending.

    It's "condolence" and "receive" BTW.

    I went ahead and sent the text anyway, and it was well received, insofar as these things can be "well received".

    What are you, the spelling police?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    A text as a form of condolence is at least something but should only be used if there's no other form of contact possible really.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 475 ✭✭candlegrease


    What are you, the spelling police?

    Usually I leave it to the built-in spellchecker but sometimes in special cases reinforcements are required, so I'm the backup.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    [QUOTE=ballsymchugh;76548984
    so have i. but then again i'm in the uk, so it's no big deal for me. but irish funerals are done and dusted in a couple of days, and it just may not be possible for someone far away to get off work and fly home. that doesn't mean they're one bit less of a friend.

    Yes this is understandable,there are funerals you cannot attend.
    I don't think Micky meant it the way you are taking it up tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,297 ✭✭✭Jaxxy


    biko wrote: »
    I'd say it's better to wait until you meet the person next time and then convey your condolences rather than texting, which I would personally find a bit insulting.
    Even if it's months later it's better to do these things in person. Imo.

    this +1,000,000

    I think that depends on the situation. A friend of mine lost her mam last year and the first time a lot of her wider circle of friends saw her was a month or so later when we were all out for a birthday party. A dozen or so people offering their condolences had her in tears and she left after less than an hour. Very unfair IMO. She just wanted to go out and have some downtime after a few difficult weeks of mourning. She'd have appreciated a text at the time more than having to deal with that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭AudreyHepburn


    The way I see it is the last thing you'd want when you've just lost your loved one is dozens of phonecalls, as well intentioned as they might be.

    A text is fine, as long as you do call to see the person at some point and/or go to the funeral.

    Although it is probably best to judge it by the person you are sending it to....I know some people who would appreciate that you were thinking of them and others who would rather hear your voice and/or see you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,940 ✭✭✭ballsymchugh


    Jaxxy wrote: »
    I think that depends on the situation. A friend of mine lost her mam last year and the first time a lot of her wider circle of friends saw her was a month or so later when we were all out for a birthday party. A dozen or so people offering their condolences had her in tears and she left after less than an hour. Very unfair IMO. She just wanted to go out and have some downtime after a few difficult weeks of mourning. She'd have appreciated a text at the time more than having to deal with that.

    as with everything though, there's a time and a place. that was unfair on your friend, i agree. when i was in a similar situation i had people call to the house weeks/months after who couldn't make the funeral, but some friends who i met out socialising knew when it was appropriate to say something to me or not.
    i honestly can't say any of them got it wrong, and i appreciated every last one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    I HRD UR DA DIED

    SOZ


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,762 ✭✭✭✭stupidusername


    I think maybe this could be viewed in terms of the times we live in. I mean, would there maybe have been a time that sending someone a card instead of calling around would've been considered as big a deal as texting is to some on here? if texts were only ever used when people were in a rush, or for a negative purpose, then yes it'd be a bad thing, but people text all the time. people text whole conversations. I hate phone calls (and I know a few people that do) and would rather texts.

    the same people that are saying it'd be so wrong to text instead... my guess would be that you're not big texters anyway?

    I got a couple of texts from college friends when my mam died (my boyfriend had told them), and I didn't mind. I certainly didn't want to get a phone call just for them to say that. they asked if they could come down to the funeral and I asked that they didn't, because it would've been a major ordeal for me to have to direct them where to go and then worry about putting them up for the night etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


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    TBH with that attitude I don't think you'll have to worry about having too many friends to be defriending.

    It's "condolence" and "receive" BTW.

    I went ahead and sent the text anyway, and it was well received, insofar as these things can be "well received".

    You still knew what I was saying though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    44leto wrote: »
    I HRD UR DA DIED

    SOZ

    I think it's younger people who txt anyway and it's acceptable.

    I always think funerals are over done in Ireland. I hate the funeral home, should be done away with completely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭Truley


    I have absolutely no problem with people sending text messages in fact I think they can be better, especially if you don't know the person that well so don't feel comfortable visiting the house or making a long call. The bereaved person is going to have enough calls and visitors to deal with in the aftermath of a death. The worst thing you can do is say or do nothing. Most people shouldn't feel insulted by a text message.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,003 ✭✭✭bijapos


    I think it depends on the situation, but I dont regard it as insensitive.

    My mother died a couple of years ago of cancer, she went very quick at the end, we only knew a day beforehand that she was on the way out. The evening she died myself and my siblings rang a few relatives and close friends of hers to tell them personally. After that I sent a general text to maybe 40 friends and colleagues. A couple of my closest friends rang back, the rest texted. I was in no way insulted, I was grateful for their thanks, but I would not have wanted to speak to a lot of people that night anyway and so I regarded the text as being quite acceptable.

    Most of them showed up at the wake, removals, funeral or the months mind mass, those that couldnt come all sent a card or letter, or rang in the weeks after the funeral with their condolences and to me this is fine and perfectly acceptable.

    I come from a very rural area, my mother was well known, and although she was sick for a while her death still came as a shock and at the time it was still hard to believe she was gone. In the hours after her death there a surprising amount to organise, with the wake in the house, funeral arrangements and so on, so I was quite happy to get texts rather than speak to dozens of people in those days. I knew people were thinking of her and us and thats what mattered to me.

    I saved all the texts and letters (I dont use social media), I've flicked through them the odd time and its comforting. I accept it as a new form of communication, there is a generation growing up for whom texting is a perfectly normal way to communicate and I guess we have to accept it.

    I should point out that all the texts were written "long hand", I guess if I got one in txt spk I would have regarded it as insensitive, but apart from that it was fine with me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭AudreyHepburn


    hondasam wrote: »
    I think it's younger people who txt anyway and it's acceptable.

    I always think funerals are over done in Ireland. I hate the funeral home, should be done away with completely.

    In a condolance text though?

    It's one thing to text speak your mates but if you are offering your sympathies you make an effort and put a little thought into it. Age is irrelevent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 469 ✭✭geetar


    In a condolance text though?

    It's one thing to text speak your mates but if you are offering your sympathies you make an effort and put a little thought into it. Age is irrelevent.

    no, absolutely not.


    when my grandad died i really appreciated the texts i got. i was in no mood to talk to people, so to be able to communicate with them via texting made it much easier.

    unless its family, i see no need to ring people. they most likely dont want to talk to anyone nor would they have the time to.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    In a condolance text though?

    It's one thing to text speak your mates but if you are offering your sympathies you make an effort and put a little thought into it. Age is irrelevent.

    I honestly don't think it's a big deal,if they are good friends they will understand.
    I do think age is relevant, younger people are not able to deal with funerals the same as older people.
    Some of them might never have attended a funeral and would not know how or what to do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,940 ✭✭✭ballsymchugh


    bijapos wrote: »
    I think it depends on the situation, but I dont regard it as insensitive.

    My mother died a couple of years ago of cancer, she went very quick at the end, we only knew a day beforehand that she was on the way out. The evening she died myself and my siblings rang a few relatives and close friends of hers to tell them personally. After that I sent a general text to maybe 40 friends and colleagues. A couple of my closest friends rang back, the rest texted. I was in no way insulted, I was grateful for their thanks, but I would not have wanted to speak to a lot of people that night anyway and so I regarded the text as being quite acceptable.

    Most of them showed up at the wake, removals, funeral or the months mind mass, those that couldnt come all sent a card or letter, or rang in the weeks after the funeral with their condolences and to me this is fine and perfectly acceptable.

    I come from a very rural area, my mother was well known, and although she was sick for a while her death still came as a shock and at the time it was still hard to believe she was gone. In the hours after her death there a surprising amount to organise, with the wake in the house, funeral arrangements and so on, so I was quite happy to get texts rather than speak to dozens of people in those days. I knew people were thinking of her and us and thats what mattered to me.

    I saved all the texts and letters (I dont use social media), I've flicked through them the odd time and its comforting. I accept it as a new form of communication, there is a generation growing up for whom texting is a perfectly normal way to communicate and I guess we have to accept it.

    I should point out that all the texts were written "long hand", I guess if I got one in txt spk I would have regarded it as insensitive, but apart from that it was fine with me.

    my father died before everyone had a mobile phone. but kinda like you, i think all the cards that we got are still at home. there's even a telegram or two thrown into the mix!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,137 ✭✭✭44leto


    In a condolance text though?

    It's one thing to text speak your mates but if you are offering your sympathies you make an effort and put a little thought into it. Age is irrelevent.

    Its their language and that is how they text each other, I wouldn't dream of it, but I am of a different generation, so I kind of agree with HSam


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    irish-stew wrote: »
    Dudess wrote: »
    Why? God, the person might mean really well.
    That attitude is obnoxious.

    Why, something like 'sorry to hear about your gran/aunt/cousin' in a txt shows no thought or sinceraty, and its just lazy.

    At least offer to come out and see me, or ring, or say you'll be in contact in some way.
    Sorry for being snappy towards you but I really think it would be fairer to consider each individual text and the person who sent it. If it were a close friend, fair enough to take exception to it, but someone you know but not that well?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,515 ✭✭✭LH Pathe


    I dunno man, condolences is such a formal word


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 853 ✭✭✭toexpress


    Not something to be done by text, tacky and common without a doubt!

    In fact I will take it further, texting is fine, it's not for me but I don't object to others doing it. If they want a response from me then they have to call but serious things can't be done by text. It always seems a bit juvenile to me


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    It's just a form of communication, thas all...


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