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Peppa Pig is evil?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,473 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Well, it's certainly sexist: Daddy Pig is portrayed as a fat, overconfident oaf.

    The jumping in muddy puddles has certainly rubbed off on my daughter but she knows she only allowed to do it when she's wearing her welly boots.

    Power Rangers had to get banned in our house after the 6 year old tried out some of the moves on his younger sister and got himself a hiding...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,737 ✭✭✭MidlandsM


    Does Danny Dog smoke weed?



    I reckon he's a stoner.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,700 ✭✭✭tricky D


    Sleepy wrote: »
    Well, it's certainly sexist: Daddy Pig is portrayed as a fat, overconfident oaf.
    Also his unkempt bum fluff stubble.
    MidlandsM wrote: »
    Does Danny Dog smoke weed?



    I reckon he's a stoner.

    Ah ha, bad hippy stubble explained.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,128 ✭✭✭cynder


    My kids have a free enough reign over the tv, they can watch anything before 9pm however my youngest now 5 gets scared of rows on the soaps so we have to turn the tv down and tell him its a scary bit. They watched Jurassic park the other day and again the 5 year old was cuddled into a ball hiding his eyes so i snuggled up to him and covered his eyes for him and told him when he could look. He loved the film even though he found it scary here and there.

    The only thing that i can say i dont have on tv is WWF, hate it with a passion. They are mad into mr bean at the moment, they could watch him over and over.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,807 ✭✭✭✭Orion


    iCarly is banned in our house. Carly herself is alright but her co-star is a right little brat. Not role models I want for my daughters.


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 19,019 Mod ✭✭✭✭Moonbeam


    I don't allow anything that gets on m nerves!

    We loved Peppa and never jump in muddy puddles with out our wellies on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,791 ✭✭✭ash23


    I find iCarlys counterpart Sam a bad influence. Also Hannah Montana. My daughter loved it a couple of years ago but I thought she was obnoxious, rude, selfish and generally just a pretty bad influence.
    A lot of those Disney shows have kids generally being obnoxious actually, the female charachters in particular.

    She's still allowed to watch them but she knows that attitude doesn't go in our house ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 482 ✭✭annamcmahon


    HaHa. They've taken that article from the Radio Times website word for word. If the worse thing your child ever does is jump in muddy puddles and ask for chocolate cake for breakfast I think you should be happy. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,659 ✭✭✭CrazyRabbit


    I was 'forced' to watch about 20 episodes of Peppa Pig when staying with my sister and her 3 year old.

    I must admit that afterwards, I did feel like killing someone. Good thing the creator/scriptwriter wasn't nearby.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,862 ✭✭✭✭January


    Max and Ruby is banned in this house, I swear if Max was my child he'd have been strung up by now, cheeky little bold buggar... and his sister thinks it's all funny and cute "ohhh Max!"

    But, Peppa is not banned, we jump in muddy puddles, but you must wear your boots! And eh... if the kids ask for sweets for their breakfast they're told no and they take it, because what mammy says goes... are some parents not capable of saying no to their kids?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭hoodwinked


    Sleepy wrote: »
    Well, it's certainly sexist: Daddy Pig is portrayed as a fat, overconfident oaf.
    .

    Peppa pig is banned in our house too for the reasons above, after watching an episode with our daughter i watched a few by myself and i couldn't believe it! they are completely sexist towards men, not to mention i wasn't happy with our daughter picking up phrases like "silly daddy".

    i couldn't help but wonder if it was "silly mummy" while daddy did and said the things mummy pig says, how many women's rights and parenting groups would be up in arms complaining it was a 'backwards step'. Just because its aimed at men doesn't mean we should accept it!

    we much prefer shows like humf, where mummy and daddy have an equal and balanced relationship, both work, both clean up, both play with humf, both babysit...etc and we find it refreshing and more life like that humf lives in an apartment and not some mansion like most characters!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    Peppa Pig is the only children's tv character I like!


    Disney Junior is banned when I'm minding my Nephew, I hate all their stupid accents and American programmes seem so repetitive or something, imo they treat children like they're morons. Special agent Oso is the worst, IIRC I saw one once where it was showing children how to put toys into a box :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭lynski


    I like peppa there is a vein of dark humor in there that i really dig - maybe i am reading too much into it.
    Horrid Henry has had a recent ban due to the bad behavior it generates. Disney is not tolerated much here, I try to keep Dora and Diego to a minimum too. For some reason all disney movies seem to involve a baby animal being lost and having to find its mommy or its way home. the amount of abandonment in disney movies is mental.
    I keep their tv watching to rte junior or cula4 as i prefer them to get exposed to less ads, and most of the shows are more benign, getting harder as my oldest is 5, but we are trying. much more dvd watching lately. but normally the tv is off at about 2 hrs after we get home from school run as that is enough for a day. A few peppa pigs to wind down at bedtime is the only change.
    I would not let my children watch non-children's movies, soaps or more adult shows because they are for adults and they do not need to be exposed to the crap in them. Drives my mother crazy - bedtime is soap time and i won't let the tv on ;-)
    I am constantly driven demented by Anthropomorphism in childrens shows (love the Wild Kratts when that gets too much) - but that is a whole other thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 195 ✭✭allprops


    It's Dora I worry about, a young child with a monkey for a friend wandering on her own! Where are the parents? Where are the bloody parents?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,617 ✭✭✭Cat Melodeon


    Peppa is loved in this house, by child & adult alike. When the boy gets totally wired and wound up, there's nothing like a shot of Peppa to bring him back down, cartoon ritalin. There's nothing in Peppa's behaviour that isn't normal. I encourage puddle jumping & tree climbing & spaghetti slurping & see fighting between siblings as a normal part of growing up. We only watch Cbeebies as there are no ads, as well as the odd dvd, and it's mostly only on from 5-7pm, maybe a bit more at the weekend, although it's often just background noise. I find my lad is just as likely to mimic bad behaviour from books and from other kids. It's really up to parents to lay down the boundaries & stick to them. Can't really lay the blame on a wee cartoon pig! Although I've had to hide the Dirty Bertie books, nose- picking is not something I want normalised!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,791 ✭✭✭ash23


    My daughter loved the Charlie and Lola books when she was small....particularly "I am not sleepy and I will not go to bed" and "I will not ever never eat a tomato".
    She still went to bed when told and ate her veggies though so I don't think they influenced her too much.
    She reads dirty bertie and horrid henry at the moment but just laughs because they're soooo gross.

    When we watch tv we watch together mainly and if someone is being a brat I always say to her "oh my goodness, that's very rude/bold" and I think it reenforces what's acceptable and what isn't.

    She doesn't tend to mimmick what she sees.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,473 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    hoodwinked wrote: »
    we much prefer shows like humf, where mummy and daddy have an equal and balanced relationship, both work, both clean up, both play with humf, both babysit...etc and we find it refreshing and more life like that humf lives in an apartment and not some mansion like most characters!
    Absolutely my favourite cartoon on Nick Jr.

    Anyone else notice the inherent socialist call-to-arms in Ben & Holly? The fairies are all morons that live in a palace whilst the industrious elves live in a tower block!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,175 ✭✭✭hoodwinked


    phasers wrote: »
    Peppa Pig is the only children's tv character I like!


    Disney Junior is banned when I'm minding my Nephew, I hate all their stupid accents and American programmes seem so repetitive or something, imo they treat children like they're morons. Special agent Oso is the worst, IIRC I saw one once where it was showing children how to put toys into a box :confused:

    Special agent oso is ridiculous i agree, the ripping on James Bond titles also grates on my nerves,

    i don't mind mickey mouse clubhouse though, and i like that there is no ads other then whats coming on disney junior, its taught my 2 year old how to count backwards (she could already count to 12 forwards) and spell 'mouse', now she walks around the place singing "mouse M-i-c-k-e-y- m-o-u-s-e, mickey's house m-i-c-k-e-y h-o-u-s-e"

    :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,753 ✭✭✭davet82


    I have to say i've enjoyed some of the posts here as much as I found the article amusing that i posted :)


    My very favourite episode of Peppa Pig involves the French Donkey, Delphine coming to visit Peppa. She is very excited to practice her English, and she asks Daddy Pig a question... ’ask away I’m an expert', he declares proudly, and the little donkey replies ’Are English split infinitives a form of irregular verb or past pronoun?’

    Classic :D

    My two year old also so loves Curious George but he dosent seem to get as much air time as the other cartoons :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,791 ✭✭✭ash23


    I love Phineas and Ferb..... :o


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭MistyCheese


    allprops wrote: »
    It's Dora I worry about, a young child with a monkey for a friend wandering on her own! Where are the parents? Where are the bloody parents?

    I agree completely. ¿Donde están Mammy y Daddy, Dora? ¿Qué has hecho* with your parents, Dora??!

    Also I do not want to encourage my child to speak Spanglish. Spanish or English, not both together.

    *¿Qué has hecho? = What have you done?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 462 ✭✭part time punk


    I agree completely. ¿Donde están Mammy y Daddy, Dora? ¿Qué has hecho* with your parents, Dora??!

    Also I do not want to encourage my child to speak Spanglish. Spanish or English, not both together.

    *¿Qué has hecho? = What have you done?

    But is Dora not a good role model for a young girl, off exploring and having adventures rather than being a pink princess ? Think the Indo article is a bit rubbish 'Parents think Peppa turing their kids into naughty children' Maybe its the parents labelling of their kids as naughty that is turning them into naughty children? Think it's possible to read a bit too much into all this, the half an hour or hour that they're watching cartoons shouldn't influence a child more than all the other hours they're with a parent/carer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,516 ✭✭✭RedXIV


    I watched Die Hard with my son over Xmas, I imagine at 2 months old, he probably agrees taking a building hostage is a lot of work :)

    But what I do like having my kids watch is Sesame Street. Its a nice calm and educational show. I could read before I started school because of that show :D


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 17,231 Mod ✭✭✭✭Das Kitty


    Most of them drive me bonkers to be frank. We only put cbeebies on in the house to avoid the ads.

    The worst thing is when you're at work and start singing the Rasta Mouse theme.

    Grandpa in my Pocket is banned because I have murderous thoughts about Jason when it's on.

    Mister Maker is the child's favourite at the moment, he's taking after his Mammy and her Art Attack obsession.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,822 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    We've noticed the bumbling father figure in Peppa Pig too and dislike her general naughtiness and TBH, she's fairly obnoxious at times.

    But it turns out that Peppa and her family are actually staunch conservatives
    according to the Daily Telegraph
    Peppa lives in a big detached house on the top of a very steep hill with her younger brother George (popular Victorian names are still terribly middle-class). Their spotty green kitchen curtains are straight out of John Lewis; the children share bunk-beds, not because they don't have space, but because it looks good to have two spare bedrooms. The walls are adorned with kids' drawings hung by parents who would like less clutter but dare not damage their off-spring's self-esteem. Their larder-style fridge is covered in educational alphabet-magnets.

    Daddy Pig doesn't mind that Cameron will raise the state pension age to 66 as long as he keeps his promise to raise the inheritance tax threshold to £1million. You see, Grandpa Pig has a boat, drives a yellow convertible; talks like a Sergeant Major and keeps a parrot in a cage. It's called "Polly", presumably because a "traditional" name legitimises his out-dated cruelty (no doubt a parrot appears on the family crest – a nod to their colonial success.)

    When she watches her favourite detective TV show, Peppa exhibits the sort of free-market-can-do attitude that Thatcher inspired in her parents, "That was easy. I could do that! When I grow up I want to be a detective!" So Daddy Pig does what every modern dad would and gets her the outfit.

    Humph is very politically correct and does introduce some themes rarely seen in kids shows, but it's exceptionally boring as all I;ve seen them do is go to the park and visit relatives/friends. *yawns*

    Plenty of comedy in Ben & Holly to keep the adults amused, the "mutiny on the Bunty" line cracks me up every time :pac:

    But for a show written by boys and for boys, Fireman Sam's your only man!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭Ayla


    I find this thread hysterical b/c I have absolutely no idea what any of you are talking about...I've never even heard of half the shows that've been mentioned, and I'm quite proud that neither of my children have either.

    We don't own a tv so quite happily miss all shows. We do watch a dvd on the laptop from time to time but that seems much less pervasive then daytime sitcoms/cartoons. The rest of the day the kids play.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭Rabidlamb


    Fireman Sam sets over high expectations of the public service.
    Living in a Welsh fishing village with a population of about 10 yet it can call on a 24 hour fire service constantly manned with 3 full-time staff.
    Not only that it has a helicopter & lifeboat service to boot.
    Ponytpandy is obviously pre Croke Park Agreement.

    90% of the emergencies are caused by the one kid aswell, surely he should be lifted for the villages sake.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,822 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Ayla wrote: »
    I find this thread hysterical b/c I have absolutely no idea what any of you are talking about...I've never even heard of half the shows that've been mentioned, and I'm quite proud that neither of my children have either.

    We don't own a tv so quite happily miss all shows. We do watch a dvd on the laptop from time to time but that seems much less pervasive then daytime sitcoms/cartoons. The rest of the day the kids play.

    How superior of you / poor you can't afford a TV and cable subscription

    Strike out as necessary... :rolleyes:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭Rabidlamb


    There's a buzz buzz buzz in the meadow
    There's a buzz buzz buzz through the trees
    There's a buzz buzz buzz in the meadow
    We're too busy being buzzy bees . . . .:D


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,202 ✭✭✭Rabidlamb


    Ayla wrote: »
    I find this thread hysterical b/c I have absolutely no idea what any of you are talking about...I've never even heard of half the shows that've been mentioned, and I'm quite proud that neither of my children have either.

    We don't own a tv so quite happily miss all shows. We do watch a dvd on the laptop from time to time but that seems much less pervasive then daytime sitcoms/cartoons. The rest of the day the kids play.

    Your superiority grease is positively dripping . . . . well done you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭Ayla


    Tabnabs wrote: »
    How superior of you / poor you can't afford a TV and cable subscription:rolleyes:

    Ever hear of someone who *chooses* not to have a tv regardless of whether or not they have enough money to afford it? There aren't many of us, but we do exist. Thanks for your little smite though :D

    Superior? No, I don't claim to be a better person/parent then anyone. But am I proud of the fact my kids don't watch tv & thus have so much else to do with their day? Hell yeah.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,473 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Rabidlamb wrote: »
    Fireman Sam sets over high expectations of the public service.
    Living in a Welsh fishing village with a population of about 10 yet it can call on a 24 hour fire service constantly manned with 3 full-time staff.
    Not only that it has a helicopter & lifeboat service to boot.
    Ponytpandy is obviously pre Croke Park Agreement.

    90% of the emergencies are caused by the one kid aswell, surely he should be lifted for the villages sake.
    That just cracked me up in the middle of the office. People are staring at me now.

    Thanks! :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 741 ✭✭✭Stripey Cat


    Q. How do you know when someone doesn't have a tv?

    A. They'll tell you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,791 ✭✭✭ash23


    Ayla wrote: »
    I find this thread hysterical b/c I have absolutely no idea what any of you are talking about...I've never even heard of half the shows that've been mentioned, and I'm quite proud that neither of my children have either.

    We don't own a tv so quite happily miss all shows. We do watch a dvd on the laptop from time to time but that seems much less pervasive then daytime sitcoms/cartoons. The rest of the day the kids play.

    Baffled as to why you would post/get involved in a thread about tv shows you don't know about so.............. :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,753 ✭✭✭davet82


    Sleepy wrote: »
    That just cracked me up in the middle of the office. People are staring at me now.

    Thanks! :p


    me too! LOL :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 741 ✭✭✭Stripey Cat


    I have to say I found this a bit disturbing though.
    My kids have a free enough reign over the tv, they can watch anything before 9pm however my youngest now 5 gets scared of rows on the soaps so we have to turn the tv down and tell him its a scary bit. They watched Jurassic park the other day and again the 5 year old was cuddled into a ball hiding his eyes so i snuggled up to him and covered his eyes for him and told him when he could look.

    I could be wrong, but child sounds like he might be traumatised by being exposed to stuff that is too scary for him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,753 ✭✭✭davet82


    Ayla wrote: »
    Ever hear of someone who *chooses* not to have a tv regardless of whether or not they have enough money to afford it? There aren't many of us, but we do exist. Thanks for your little smite though :D

    Superior? No, I don't claim to be a better person/parent then anyone. But am I proud of the fact my kids don't watch tv & thus have so much else to do with their day? Hell yeah.


    Why are you proud that your kids dont watch TV? :confused:

    I dont think a half hour of Peppa Pig killed anyone... unless is was a muddy puddle related death :p but seriously is that not a bit cruel? I'm sure other kids would tease them about something abnormal in this day and age as not having a TV or knowing about popular TV charachters among there pals plus whats the harm with some cartoons on a rainy day with some sweets just for a treat?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,791 ✭✭✭ash23


    My baby (9 ;) ) is currently propped up on the childminders sofa watching tv because she's not well and I've to work..... nothing beats a sick day in front of the tv!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭Ayla


    ash23 wrote: »
    Baffled as to why you would post/get involved in a thread about tv shows you don't know about so.............. :confused:

    I got involved b/c the OP asked:
    I'm just curious to see if there are any 'childrens' TV shows that you do not let your children watch

    And my response is that my kids don't watch any of them.
    I'm sure other kids would tease them about something abnormal in this day and age as not having a TV or knowing about popular TV charachters among there pals

    You're right. When I was a kid I had no way of relating to my peers who were going on about whatever shows were on at the time. But I was proud then as I am now of the fact that I found other ways to entertain myself. What I can't understand is why anyone would think that I'm actually depriving my children of some sort of privilage b/c they don't sit in front of (nor do they miss) a tv? Be offended if you must, but I think there's a lot more to life then what happens when you watch tv reguarly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,692 ✭✭✭Dublin_Gunner


    Well back to the OP, and not the reasons for not having a TV / letting the kids watch TV.

    Are some parent actually serious that they delve so deep into a cartoon that they ban it for reasons; that in reality, the child would never understand anyway?

    Of course kids will imitate to a certain degree characters in their favourite shows, but to be banning the show because you child jumped into a muddy puddle or asked for cake is conservatism gone crazy.

    God forbid you ever let your children watch Tom & Gerry with the pet cat around...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,753 ✭✭✭davet82


    Ayla wrote: »
    I got involved b/c the OP asked:


    And my response is that my kids don't watch any of them.



    You're right. When I was a kid I had no way of relating to my peers who were going on about whatever shows were on at the time. But I was proud then as I am now of the fact that I found other ways to entertain myself. What I can't understand is why anyone would think that I'm actually depriving my children of some sort of privilage b/c they don't sit in front of (nor do they miss) a tv? Be offended if you must, but I think there's a lot more to life then what happens when you watch tv reguarly.

    Everybody is different and do things different and i suppose you dont miss what you dont know. I dont believe 1 hour of television in the evening will do them any harm but no television probably wont either except the fact they would be the odd ones out, its tough being a kid ya know! ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,753 ✭✭✭davet82


    God forbid you ever let your children watch Tom & Gerry with the pet cat around...


    Tom & Gerry is the devil :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭Daisy M


    Ayla wrote: »
    I got involved b/c the OP asked:


    And my response is that my kids don't watch any of them.



    You're right. When I was a kid I had no way of relating to my peers who were going on about whatever shows were on at the time. But I was proud then as I am now of the fact that I found other ways to entertain myself. What I can't understand is why anyone would think that I'm actually depriving my children of some sort of privilage b/c they don't sit in front of (nor do they miss) a tv? Be offended if you must, but I think there's a lot more to life then what happens when you watch tv reguarly.

    Before I start this is not an attack just a few questions!

    What is your objection to having a tv? Would it not make sense to have one and limit what your children watch. There are some programmes on tv which are really informative and while my kids do watch crap they also watch some really good documenteries which all of us enjoy. They might be something to do with world war 1 or 2, or climate change or animals but they are great. I do think it is unfair when parents force their children to be different from all others at some stage their views should be taken into account, it shoulnt be a blanket ban. Do your children not get homework re news programmes/items?

    My second question and again I am not trying to be offensive, I would just like to get an insight. You have a laptop and you are quiet a frequent poster on here, why is the laptop with broadband connection ok but a tv not? Presumably you like most parents control their laptop use can this not be done with the tv too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭Ayla


    Daisy M wrote: »
    Before I start this is not an attack just a few questions!

    What is your objection to having a tv? Would it not make sense to have one and limit what your children watch. There are some programmes on tv which are really informative and while my kids do watch crap they also watch some really good documenteries which all of us enjoy. They might be something to do with world war 1 or 2, or climate change or animals but they are great. I do think it is unfair when parents force their children to be different from all others at some stage their views should be taken into account, it shoulnt be a blanket ban. Do your children not get homework re news programmes/items?

    My second question and again I am not trying to be offensive, I would just like to get an insight. You have a laptop and you are quiet a frequent poster on here, why is the laptop with broadband connection ok but a tv not? Presumably you like most parents control their laptop use can this not be done with the tv too.

    Fair questions. I object to the fact that - in every house I go to here - the tv is always on in the background. It's like a social crutch that many people use to serve as a focal point in the room & I find it distracting when people have to try to avoid looking at it so they can have a conversation. In my experience, a lot more personal interaction goes on when there isn't a tv in the room. And yes, of course, there is an "off" button - I just wish people knew when to use it. :)

    Yes, there are good documentaries on tv, but it's usually through cable/sky, which I don't think worthwhile paying for. If RTE has something good on my girls can see it through RTE player on the laptop.

    Bluntly, I don't like how my girls (aged 5 & 2) turn into zombies when they're in front of a tv. They tune out completely and instantly ignore everyone in the room. The argument could be made that maybe they do this b/c they don't have daily access, but it does this to them why would I want to give them daily access? Watching a dvd is enough for "downtime."

    As far as the laptop goes, my 5-yr old does play some educational computer games, and it is easy to regulate the time on this. But at least I know that if she's doing these games (ie: starfall, headsprout, etc) she is actively learning - not the passive learning that *may* happen by watching a cartoon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,128 ✭✭✭cynder


    I have to say I found this a bit disturbing though.



    I could be wrong, but child sounds like he might be traumatised by being exposed to stuff that is too scary for him.

    He is scared of raised voices always has been, the soaps are full of arguments and we send him out and tell him its a scary bit.



    His a timid kid, but he really, really wanted to watch the film i turned it over but he got upset so the deal was if a scary bit came on we would hide under the blanket untill it was over.

    if i could have taken a photo you would know what i meant, he wasnt gripped with fear, he was just covering his eyes because the dinosaur was going to eat the man on the toilet, he knew it was going to happen and was flinching. As i do when i watch horror movies (infact im way worse).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 741 ✭✭✭Stripey Cat


    if i could have taken a photo you would know what i meant, he wasnt gripped with fear, he was just covering his eyes because the dinosaur was going to eat the man on the toilet, he knew it was going to happen and was flinching. As i do when i watch horror movies (infact im way worse).

    He is five, though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭lynski


    Ayla wrote: »
    Fair questions. I object to the fact that - in every house I go to here - the tv is always on in the background. It's like a social crutch that many people use to serve as a focal point in the room & I find it distracting when people have to try to avoid looking at it so they can have a conversation. In my experience, a lot more personal interaction goes on when there isn't a tv in the room. And yes, of course, there is an "off" button - I just wish people knew when to use it. :)

    Yes, there are good documentaries on tv, but it's usually through cable/sky, which I don't think worthwhile paying for. If RTE has something good on my girls can see it through RTE player on the laptop.

    Bluntly, I don't like how my girls (aged 5 & 2) turn into zombies when they're in front of a tv. They tune out completely and instantly ignore everyone in the room. The argument could be made that maybe they do this b/c they don't have daily access, but it does this to them why would I want to give them daily access? Watching a dvd is enough for "downtime."

    As far as the laptop goes, my 5-yr old does play some educational computer games, and it is easy to regulate the time on this. But at least I know that if she's doing these games (ie: starfall, headsprout, etc) she is actively learning - not the passive learning that *may* happen by watching a cartoon.

    I actually used to feel exactly the same way - i probably still would but the tiredness has me bet - my now 5 yr old did not regularly watch tv until he was 2.5, we didn't have a family tv for 6/7 mths around when he turned 2 (had a bedroom one for us but never used it).
    Like you i still dont like the zombie effect, it is nothing to do with frequency most children do it, i dont like the influence and i hate some of the stories but advertising is my biggest dislike about tv. My 5 yr old loves shopping tv - he creeps into the living room early in the morning and watches shopping tv, he can quote ads to me.
    I have ot hold my hand up and say i have no idea how i would do the cooking, the limited amount of cleaning i do, etc without tv to distract the children. They are limited to about 2 hrs a day as it is.
    We only have the 4 four terrestrial channels.
    We are getting quite close to ditching the tv altogether when we require saorview and sticking with our media box that has an internet connection.
    Also, contrary to what another poster sad my 2 have had no problem distinguishing between made-up and real - bob the builder = made up, digger outside = real, so much so that my son at four questioned the existence of Santa, proud, if panicked moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,128 ✭✭✭cynder


    He is five, though.

    I saw the evil dead at age 3, poltergeist before the age of 8 and my daughters favorite film was the 'mummy returns 2' at age 2-4 her favorite actor was brad Pitt. I saw all the Seagal/Van Damme/Arnie films before the age of 13. My parents edited the sex scenes but we were allowed to watch the violence/blood and gore.

    Not that i would recommend any child watching the evil dead at age 3 or before the age of 18.

    Jurassic park was a pg film back when i was a kid, presume it is now. His 5 that falls in the pg category, it was shown on rte at between 3 and 6pm. He watched all of 'Jaws' without flinching. I must have been around the same age when i watched Jaws and the music was much scarier than the shark attack. I would start flinching as soon as i heard the music.


    http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/1255330-to-let-my-5-year-old-watch-Jurassic-Park/AllOnOnePage

    Seems like it really depends on the child, some have their 3 year olds watching it, others have 7 year olds that had nightmares. My fella had no nightmares.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,473 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    It really does depend on the child, our 6 year old's favourite movie is Jaws...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭Daisy M


    I am just not comfortable with the all or nothing concept. I prefer for my kids to see that tvs laptops games consoles are there to be enjoyed for a limited time and not to take over their lives. I dont believe banning them will do that.


    I am happy to pay for sky as there are some excellent programmes on it but I do wish most of those disney programmes had never came into existance they are a far cry from Mickey Mouse!


    There is a huge world out there and loads of places I would love to go and unfortunatly I will probably never get to most of them but some programmes on tv really do take you there for a few minutes thats not a bad thing


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