Bangernomics car of the week/day - Part II

colm_mcm · 13-01-2013 7:37pm

RoverJames wrote: »

If the mileage is genuine I doubt its an ex AGS vehicle, someone might have wanted USB or some other stereo option

Can't think of anyone else who bought 2.0 LX though, weren't they a Garda special. It's not an import by the reg anyway, too early.

dgt · 13-01-2013 7:56pm

NCT till Sept, 1400

Taxed till July

Saab Ed · 13-01-2013 8:01pm

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4408136

Sofiztikated · 13-01-2013 8:12pm

dgt wrote: »

Do the chinese yokes have a Suzuki badge on the steering wheel?

Toyota clocks too, AFAIK.

Shameless Smart car clone.

Cungi · 13-01-2013 8:17pm

colm_mcm wrote: »

Can't think of anyone else who bought 2.0 LX though, weren't they a Garda special. It's not an import by the reg anyway, too early.

That looks like cruise control on the steering wheel. On an LX

Saab Ed · 13-01-2013 8:23pm

Duurty

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4398953

Saab Ed · 13-01-2013 8:38pm

Sombody please buy this just to be ironic

My love of crap cars is almost making me press the button on this one. Its soooo bad its good

http://carsireland.ie/detail.php?ad_id=878783&r=s.php%3Fd%3D500%26e%3D1000%26g%3D9

JohnBoy26 · 13-01-2013 8:54pm

Sofiztikated wrote: »

Toyota clocks too, AFAIK.

Shameless Smart car clone.

I don't think the clocks look like Toyota clocks. The air vents though look like they've been lifted straight from a ford focus imo.

166man · 13-01-2013 9:07pm

colm_mcm wrote: »

Was about to post this
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4407899

Then I saw the radio missing, and I thought, 'ello elo' what's going on here then, then the pic of the engine 'duratec he' hmmmm, I thought, 'doesn't look like a 1.8 zetec to me'

Cartell check
Registration 04D2367
Make FORD
Model MONDEO
Description 2.0 LX 5DR 51
Fuel Type PETROL

Ex Garda car if I ever saw one.

I wouldn't be so sure tbh, for the reason that nearly all Garda Fords are saloons. I don't think I have ever seen them in a hatchback mondeo, although the reg plate and colour does scream garda motor.

bobin fudge · 13-01-2013 9:11pm

Saab Ed wrote: »

Duurty

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4398953

its also in dreamer of the year as well

13-01-2013 9:19pm

Few hundred euro tops, pity its not a vitesse though. Best wishes to the owner though.

eringobragh · 13-01-2013 10:13pm

99 Primera €495

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4407638

View2?id=16723853

ABS light is on though...could be a cheap fix.

I know the guy who owns this but am nothing to do with the sale

, 1 owner from new, full service history, etc.

unkel · 13-01-2013 11:17pm

One owner from new who has his car meticulously serviced doesn't strike me as someone who would do nothing about an ABS warning light staying on...

I'd offer full asking price if the owner puts it through the NCT (can be done now)

unkel · 13-01-2013 11:23pm

Clean 83k miles '03 Saab 9-3 asking €1850. NCT 2014

Full service history, 2 owners

eringobragh · 13-01-2013 11:28pm

unkel wrote: »

One owner from new who has his car meticulously serviced doesn't strike me as someone who would do nothing about an ABS warning light staying on...

I'd offer full asking price if the owner puts it through the NCT (can be done now)

Indeed AFAIK it was sent to the garage to be looked and the mechanic said it could be one of 3 things (and charged for the privelege) :rolleyes:

It would surely fail the NCT on the ABS light though ?

I'd take it off his hands if I had the room

13-01-2013 11:30pm

eringobragh wrote: »

........

It would surely fail the NCT on the ABS light though ? ........

Yep.

Does the ABS light extinguish after start up and come back on once rolling or does it not extinguish at all?

eringobragh · 13-01-2013 11:34pm

RoverJames wrote: »

Yep.

Does the ABS light extinguish after start up and come back on once rolling or does it not extinguish at all?

Not sure RJ I think it stays on the whole time.

flazio · 13-01-2013 11:36pm

Saab Ed wrote: »

Sombody please buy this just to be ironic My love of crap cars is almost making me press the button on this one. Its soooo bad its good

http://carsireland.ie/detail.php?ad_id=878783&r=s.php%3Fd%3D500%26e%3D1000%26g%3D9

I've seen much much worse. She's with a dealer, she seems pretty clean (though that side mounted air freshener worries me a little)
Plus the tax is more then the car in a year.

unkel · 13-01-2013 11:37pm

eringobragh wrote: »

Indeed AFAIK it was sent to the garage to be looked and the mechanic said it could be one of 3 things (and charged for the privelege) :rolleyes:

That's not diagnostics, that is not good enough. Pity he already paid

Could be a lot of different things. Everybody always says it's just a wheel speed sensor. But that is best case scenario. And even then it might be hard to remove the old sensor. Personally I wouldn't risk investing €495 of my hard earned on what could very well be just a tonne of scrap

eringobragh wrote: »

It would surely fail the NCT on the ABS light though ?

Yes it would fail. More worrying is that most people seem to care more that it would fail the NCT rather than that their fukcing brakes ain't working as designed?

BTW I had a '95 1.6SLX hatch a very long time ago. Not without trouble (surprising for a nearly new Japanese car) but the engine is free revving and the ride / handling are surprisingly good for a Japanese car

eringobragh · 13-01-2013 11:44pm

unkel wrote: »

That's not diagnostics, that is not good enough. Pity he already paid

Could be a lot of different things. Everybody always says it's just a wheel speed sensor. But that is best case scenario. And even then it might be hard to remove the old sensor. Personally I wouldn't risk investing €495 of my hard earned on what could very well be just a tonne of scrap

Yes it would fail. More worrying is that most people seem to care more that it would fail the NCT rather than that their fukcing brakes ain't working as designed?

BTW I had a '95 1.6SLX hatch a very long time ago. Not without trouble (surprising for a nearly new Japanese car) but the engine is free revving and the ride / handling are surprisingly good for a Japanese car

Agreed I told him his mechanic a useless cnut :mad:

The brakes are working fine as far as stopping is concened

and cars still being used the problem arose about a month ago...hes got another car there and doesn't want to put money into it as he's not mechanically technical.

Its an SRI model with alacantra seats....I sound like a shill here :P...but I've no ties to this sale

13-01-2013 11:45pm

unkel wrote: »

On a €400 car? Meh. Just drive it for 4 months, NCT it.

Best case scenario -> keep driving it or sell it for twice what you paid for it

Worst case scenario -> sell it for scrap...

And then buy your next bangernomics...

unkel wrote: »

............. Personally I wouldn't risk investing €495 of my hard earned on what could very well be just a tonne of scrap

My sentiment too but you didn't seem to apply that logic to a €400 Mondeo

unkel · 14-01-2013 12:25am

Don't be digging yourself a hole, RJ, suggesting my posts were inconsistent

The Mondeo could very well pass the NCT (what did you base your suggestion about failing emissions on anyway?). On the other hand the Primera was certain to fail the NCT with the ABS light on.

I'm not saying either is a good / bad buy at €400. Hell, I'm not saying anything of the sort. I sold a Rover 75 with severe parking damage and a severe coolant leak (at best, could be worse than just a coolant leak) for €400 on donedeal and they were biting my hand off for it. Money in hand within an hour of putting it up for sale :eek:

14-01-2013 12:29am

unkel wrote: »

Don't be digging yourself a hole, RJ, suggesting my posts were inconsistent

The Mondeo could very well pass the NCT (what did you base your suggestion about failing emissions on anyway?). On the other hand the Primera was certain to fail the NCT with the ABS light on. ...........

I'm not digging any hole

1.8 Mondeo engines are well known to absolutely guzzle oil, it's not rare by any means. Cat would be effectively useless. From your post on the matter and your query now I'm thinking this is perhaps news to you.

I didn't suggest it would fail the emissions btw, I mentioned I'd get it on a gas analyser prior to buying it, my logic being I wouldn't splash €400 on potential scrap.

unkel · 14-01-2013 12:40am

Why the dramatics though? Even a sh1te engine is not gonna fail just like that.

My mother in law bought a new Octavia 1.4 10 years ago and it has probably he crappiest engine in recent history. Drinks more oil than I drink wine (well almost

). She never checks the oil and the low oil light has come up many a time. Usually it then is topped up (after a while) with whatever oil is around.

The car is still driving and it is still passing NCTs

14-01-2013 12:43am

unkel wrote: »

Why the dramatics though? Even a sh1te engine is not gonna fail just like that..........

What dramatics?

Fail just like that? If an engine has been run on low oil repeatedly the chances of it giving up the ghost increase, it won't be just like that as its been warning someone for quite a while.

unkel · 14-01-2013 12:52am

You're making loads of assumptions about that Mondeo. Dramatic ones about catastrophic engine failure. That's why I called dramatics

There is nothing to suggest that particular car has an engine about to go boom

I'm actually a bit taken back it is you coming up with these assumptions / paranoia. You of all people have had to deal more than most of us with people repeating pub talk sh1te about HG failure in Rovers

JohnBoy26 · 14-01-2013 12:53am

unkel wrote: »

Why the dramatics though? Even a sh1te engine is not gonna fail just like that.

My mother in law bought a new Octavia 1.4 10 years ago and it has probably he crappiest engine in recent history. Drinks more oil than I drink wine (well almost ). She never checks the oil and the low oil light has come up many a time. Usually it then is topped up (after a while) with whatever oil is around.

The car is still driving and it is still passing NCTs

Rover James has a point about that Mondeo. Someone I know had a focus a few years back that was burning oil in one of the cylinders. This didn't bother them too much as the car was driving fine however after a while the cat got damaged and blocked the exhaust. In the end the only proper solution was to rebuild the engine.

14-01-2013 1:00am

unkel wrote: »

You're making loads of assumptions about that Mondeo. ........

The asking price was €400, you sold a sh1tter of a rover 75 for the same amount of money.

I'm not assuming anything about the Mondeo, I mentioned I'd get it on a gas analyser before spending €400 on it, what I didn't at the time mention was why.

If anything you are the one assuming it would last 4 months

JohnBoy26 · 14-01-2013 1:05am

99 Toyota Avensis Nct 7/13 Tax 05/13 84k miles 980 euros

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4407017

unkel · 14-01-2013 1:14am

RoverJames wrote: »

The asking price was €400, you sold a sh1tter of a rover 75 for the same amount of money.

I'm not assuming anything about the Mondeo, I mentioned I'd get it on a gas analyser before spending €400 on it, what I didn't at the time mention was why.

If anything you are the one assuming it would last 4 months

I thought you digged bangernomics but maybe not. The game on the very lowest end of bangernomics is to spend NOTHING apart from buying the car. By all means, get the seller to pay for whatever test (NCT) you wish for, but it is ridiculous to suggest spending €30 or €40 on a pre-buy test to be honest.

If you reckon there might be problems with a certain engine / car, just get another one. Plenty of fish left in the sea and all that.

Bangernomics car of the week/day - Part II

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