BHAA 2012

AJCOT

First Test at Tymon Park 07/01/12

Happy new year everyone,your first big challenge of the dozen awaits you in Tymon Park on Saturday 7th. 267 souls braved this cross country race in 2011 with Aoife Byrne, Donna Mahon & Mary Hanley leading the field in the two mile ladies section.Ronan Keane, Dave Byrne & Declan Fahey led home the men in the four mile race. Races start at noon & 12.30. We'd welcome any contributions or questions.




Last year's thread

RayCun

Looking forward to it. Will the online membership form be available again this week? (And are we allowed run on the paths? )

AJCOT

RayCun wrote: »

Looking forward to it. Will the online membership form be available again this week? (And are we allowed run on the paths? )

There is a new get tough policy with path runners, a trained former army marksman with a pellet device has been retained for the duration of the cross country season to gently warn those straying onto solid ground that there are consequences for their actions! I'll get back to you on the first question soon.

runrabbit

Thanks AJ and Happy New Year to all the BHAA-ers! I'm looking forward to the first race of the year; I even took the new spikes out for a trial run this morning in preparation!

AJCOT

runrabbit wrote: »

Thanks AJ and Happy New Year to all the BHAA-ers! I'm looking forward to the first race of the year; I even took the new spikes out for a trial run this morning in preparation!

Sharpen those spikes, PBs all over the place for you in 2012,I bet.

rdunne

You can now renew or even sign up as a first timer here:
http://bhaa.ie/members/app/membership/form

Its only €15 and after that all races are €10. Great value

IF you need further deatals of any races look at our main website http://bhaa.ie
or mail us at info@bhaa.ie

rdunne

details of the first BHAA race of 2012, Im sure AJ will be looking up the weather for you later
http://bhaa.ie/article.php?story=sdcc2012

rdunne

http://bhaa.ie/documents/2012/2012BHAA_Calendar.jpg

menoscemo

Delighted to see the Kclub 10k is on the 21st April. Gives me 3 weeks to recover after Conn. I never got the chance last year as it was on 6 days after Conn, it is supposed to be a real fast one and I have been planning on doing it for a few years.

Sprocket77

rdunne wrote: »

http://bhaa.ie/documents/2012/2012BHAA_Calendar.jpg

Can anyone cut and paste the calendar onto this thread, it opens as a blank attachment for me and when I go to the BHAA website it's blank on there too.
Thanks

couerdelion

You should be able to view it here --> http://pieathlete.blogspot.com/2012/01/bhaa-fixtures.html

I couldn't save it big enough to read but if you click on it will open full size.

AJCOT

It may not feel like it now but on Saturday according to the Met.Office, it will be dry with temperatures of 10/11 degrees & nowhere near as windy as today (Tuesday).

gerard65

Trying to renew online, but the security cert for runireland is not valid:(

RayCun

gerard65 wrote: »

Trying to renew online, but the security cert for runireland is not valid:(

you can click past that... if you dare...

gerard65

RayCun wrote: »

you can click past that... if you dare...

Ye sure! I'll just put my bank details, pass codes, etc here instead -
Here they are - *MOD NOTE-DETAILS DELETED*

(Mod Queueing outside bank first thing in the morning)

couerdelion

Just reading on the website that memberships run Feb - Feb. Does that mean if I sign up now I'll still have to pay €15 for South Dublin and Eircom races?

rdunne

couerdelion wrote: »

Just reading on the website that memberships run Feb - Feb. Does that mean if I sign up now I'll still have to pay €15 for South Dublin and Eircom races?

No, not at all , its till Feb 2013

couerdelion

Thanks, I've signed up and paid. Looking forward to Saturday now

rdunne

gerard65 wrote: »

Trying to renew online, but the security cert for runireland is not valid:(

Thats sorted now

couerdelion

What time is registration on saturday?

RayCun

Anyone know what the ground is looking like? Ran there over the weekend and I was thinking of 12mm spikes - it was pretty boggy and the women will be running first - but maybe it has dried up this week?

gerard65

RayCun wrote: »

Anyone know what the ground is looking like? Ran there over the weekend and I was thinking of 12mm spikes - it was pretty boggy and the women will be running first - but maybe it has dried up this week?

Always a couple of very soft areas, 9mm or 12mm nibs will do the trick.
Wish I could run, but this year I'll be a spectator:(

shels4ever

gerard65 wrote: »

Always a couple of very soft areas, 9mm or 12mm nibs will do the trick.
Wish I could run, but this year I'll be a spectator:(

There is always next years XC season for both of us, XC isnt the friend of the calf\achiles injury

Nialler73

1st ever cross country tomorrow and I'm winging it in a pair of adidas kanadia. Fingers crossed!!

pconn062

Think I'm going to make it to this first race after all, looking forward to it. Going to go with 9mm spikes, does anyone know about travelling from Drogheda. From what I see I head up the M50, off at junction 11 and then it's the first exit off the first roundabout you hit, up Wellington lane to the GAA pitch for reg? Can anyone who knows the area confirm this?

AJCOT

pconn062 wrote: »

Think I'm going to make it to this first race after all, looking forward to it. Going to go with 9mm spikes, does anyone know about travelling from Drogheda. From what I see I head up the M50, off at junction 11 and then it's the first exit off the first roundabout you hit, up Wellington lane to the GAA pitch for reg? Can anyone who knows the area confirm this?

Yep, spot on, see you there. Even if totally dry tomorrow, I'd expect the course to be mucky for the ladies & muckier for the men. I'll have 9mm spikes too. Enjoy.

pconn062

Nialler73 wrote: »

1st ever cross country tomorrow and I'm winging it in a pair of adidas kanadia. Fingers crossed!!

You will probably be fine for most of it, you will just need to be careful at any boggy patches as you could easily go over your ankle, I've seen it happen a few times. Enjoy your first cross country race, you'll love it!

RayCun

Good race today, a big crowd out and well run.
Congrats to the boardsie in the women's race who came in 6th (?).

gerard65

Great morning for it, although it was freezing standing around watching, would have loved to run. Blown away by how easy the top guys and girls make it look, they seem to be floating across the ground.
Well done to the girl in the Boards AC vest - great running.

couerdelion

My first race and really enjoyed it. I thought it was really well organised.
I got lapped by 3-4 runners who came belting past me at some speed. Some slightly boggy areas on the course which slowed me down but I had a good run out.

geld

Well done to the Sth Co Co for another well run event. Despite not having the full use of the GAA club I think that their backup plan worked.

JosDel

Good race today, Thanks to the SCC and the BHAA, Tough little course, Great to see the results out so quick.

pconn062

Agree that it was a tough course, seemed to sap the enuegy out of the legs in places, great event though, fail play!

Caprica

Good race today with a big turnout. That was the easiest I have found this course, the last few years it has been very mucky and tough going but it was fairly solid today. Barcode system seemed to work very well, the individual results were available in no time

RayCun

Caprica wrote: »

the individual results were available in no time

are they online? or were they available at the clubhouse after the race? I had to shoot off straight away, missed the brack
(thought the men's race was starting at 12 )

gmurran

Great race today. The standard was better than I expected.

Fair play to BHAA for getting the chip timing. Makes a bit of a mockery of the AAI. The national senior in 7 weeks will be pen and paper.

TheRoadRunner

gmurran wrote: »

Great race today. The standard was better than I expected.

The first few XC races of the new year always have a decent field

gmurran wrote: »

Fair play to BHAA for getting the chip timing. Makes a bit of a mockery of the AAI. The national senior in 7 weeks will be pen and paper.

Are you sure. They had chips the last couple of years IIRC. Also no need for chips for interclubs, not as if there will a couple of 100 racing in any of the races. Nothing wrong with good auld pen and paper at times

happygoose

The BHAA are miles ahead of the AAI in terms of race organisation.

gmurran

I may be wrong but dont remember having a chip in Santry last year. Apologies if I'm wrong on that. The Novice certainly does'nt with fields of 250+ where 10 places can mean 8-10 seconds.

My point was more that Dublin, Leinster and AAI should get their act together. Places are obviously more important in XC but I dont agree that pen and paper is reasonable record keeping these days, apart from a fun run.

JosDel

RayCun wrote: »

are they online? or were they available at the clubhouse after the race? I had to shoot off straight away, missed the brack
(thought the men's race was starting at 12 )

Ray,

They printed down the mens results in full and hung them outside the club house.

They will be available online tomorrow.

AJCOT

Let me reassure all that there is no plot to toughen up cross country runners by keeping them outdoors before & after races! Unfortunately, maintenance work in the St.Jude's GAA club hall today kept us from getting in, fortunately, it was a dry day & some boy scout brought their tent. A huge thanks to Mick Mc Cartan, all in South Dublin County Council and the BHAA for getting us off to a super start in 2012 with two great races. There were a few minor teething problems with our chip timing system & team prizes will be given out after the races in Cherryfield Park on 21/01. We will be in a far better position to take annual memberships in a fortnight, keep those spikes sharpened.& thanks for your patience today.

Seres

RayCun wrote: »

Good race today, a big crowd out and well run.
Congrats to the boardsie in the women's race who came in 6th (?).

gerard65 wrote: »

Great morning for it, although it was freezing standing around watching, would have loved to run. Blown away by how easy the top guys and girls make it look, they seem to be floating across the ground.
Well done to the girl in the Boards AC vest - great running.

That was me ! , thanks , i went out too fast and lost a place in the last 500m ,so came in 7th never happens me ,, normally start slower and finish strong , i could have kept the place if i dug a bit deeper , but first race of the year so... . Good field of runners there today , very fair course . Hadnt a clue what the route was for the course so that didnt help my performance im sure . Thanks to whoever out there was sh.outing encouragement to me , really appreciated it !, i wouldnt normally know anyone around that neck of the woods .

runrabbit

Well done Seres that was good running.

I'm a cross-country newbie but I enjoyed today; though I'm not sure I got the pacing quite right. I was a mile into it before I got moving and it was half over by then! I spent the second half passing people which was good but I probably should get used to pacing myself better in the shorter races.

I had to leave straight after but I'm looking forward to watching the men's race and enjoying some BHAA brack and chat on the 21st!

pconn062

Seres wrote: »

That was me ! , thanks , i went out too fast and lost a place in the last 500m ,so came in 7th never happens me ,, normally start slower and finish strong , i could have kept the place if i dug a bit deeper , but first race of the year so... . Good field of runners there today , very fair course . Hadnt a clue what the route was for the course so that didnt help my performance im sure . Thanks to whoever out there was sh.outing encouragement to me , really appreciated it !, i wouldnt normally know anyone around that neck of the woods .

You looked very strong at the end when I seen you Seres, I noticed your Boards AC top, 7th is very impressive.

Seres

runrabbit wrote: »

Well done Seres that was good running.

I'm a cross-country newbie but I enjoyed today; though I'm not sure I got the pacing quite right. I was a mile into it before I got moving and it was half over by then! I spent the second half passing people which was good but I probably should get used to pacing myself better in the shorter races.

I had to leave straight after but I'm looking forward to watching the men's race and enjoying some BHAA brack and chat on the 21st!

It hard to get the pacing bang on but i always find its best if you can finish strong , good for the confidence . Hopefully will make the 21st . I love watching the xc race , worth goin out to see , must better viewing than the road races .

pconn062 wrote: »

You looked very strong at the end when I seen you Seres, I noticed your Boards AC top, 7th is very impressive.

Thanks , had a bit more in the tank at the end , tactically not my best performance either but sure im never happy !!! How did you get on ?

pconn062

Seres wrote: »

Thanks , had a bit more in the tank at the end , tactically not my best performance either but sure im never happy !!! How did you get on ?

I'm a bit like you never happy! Only decided to do the race on a whim last night so was happy enough. 26: something for four miles, the guys race was really competitive so was tough enough! Looking forward to the next one now! Two miles seems very short to me for a womans race, would you prefer something a bit longer?

RayCun

Seres wrote: »

Thanks to whoever out there was sh.outing encouragement to me

When you passed the start line and coming to the finish, I was cheering on Boards, should have known it was you all right.

pconn062 wrote: »

Two miles seems very short to me for a womans race

I notice some women run in the longer race, they prefer the distance. Don't think they'll let me in the shorter race though

TheRoadRunner

gmurran wrote: »

I may be wrong but dont remember having a chip in Santry last year. Apologies if I'm wrong on that. The Novice certainly does'nt with fields of 250+ where 10 places can mean 8-10 seconds.

My point was more that Dublin, Leinster and AAI should get their act together. Places are obviously more important in XC but I dont agree that pen and paper is reasonable record keeping these days, apart from a fun run.

Not sure about last year but definitely the year before.

Agree chip timing is the way to go, your example of the novice is a good point. However when the field is as small as the senior inter clubs, pen and paper is very accurate. Recent races has shown us that chip timing has it's problems too (malfunctioning chips etc) but in general I'd go with chip timing. It's like e-voting though a paper backup is prudent

couerdelion

Official results up.

itsalltrue

it was a good race and one of my better cross country times but has left me with a sore knee but hopefully i won't be out too long

Nialler73

pconn062 wrote: »

You will probably be fine for most of it, you will just need to be careful at any boggy patches as you could easily go over your ankle, I've seen it happen a few times. Enjoy your first cross country race, you'll love it!

Managed to navigate my way around the course in the Kanadia's without too much dificulty although you wouldn't say that if you saw me on the 3rd lap...
Question from a cross country newbie - Do the spikes provide me with significantly more grip?