N5 Ballaghaderreen Bypass

Peanut Butter Jelly

MYOB wrote: »

Can't see what you mean myself. However, if that is the case there's a few possibilities - land acquisition costs (road goes all the way through one parcel of land), ground issues, and also dead straight single-carriageway roads are considered a bad idea particularly if there are overbridges - they're believed to cause people to consider themselves to be on motorways.

I think he may have meant the 0167 pic.

Ascii

In the picture .167 the curve is greatly over emphasised by the zoom of the camera. Its slightly less than 1km between the camera point and the river bridge approx. in the middle of the picture. It is then almost another 1km between the river bridge and R293 interchange which is the structure you can barely see at the top of the picture. What looks like tight radius bends in this picture are almost straight on the ground.

spacetweek

True, basically if you drove the section in question you wouldn't really be aware of much in the way of bends.

serfboard

Ascii wrote: »

5 overbridges and 1 river bridge = six structures in total

Thanks for this. I counted 9 intersections - one with the river, one with the regional road, and 7 with local roads.

6 structures means three remain. I suppose there might be one or two at grade junctions (like you have on the Charlestown bypass, which was also built by Wills) and one or two cul de sacs created?

tharlear

In the picture .167 the curve is greatly over emphasised by the zoom of the camera. Its slightly less than 1km between the camera point and the river bridge approx. in the middle of the picture. It is then almost another 1km between the river bridge and R293 interchange which is the structure you can barely see at the top of the picture. What looks like tight radius bends in this picture are almost straight on the ground.

Thanks I did mean .167 and thanks for the clarification of the distances, it just appeared odd when I looked at it first. I dought I'll get a chance to drive it any time soon (nothing to do with its completion date)

lotusm

will the road be for for September. I think it was originally supose to be December 2014, but Wills have a habit usually finishing a bit early

sonnyblack

lotusm wrote: »

will the road be for for September. I think it was originally supose to be December 2014, but Wills have a habit usually finishing a bit early

Thinking about the All Ireland final are you?

lotusm

sonnyblack wrote: »

Thinking about the All Ireland final are you?

For sure,, hate taking the Sligo route:D...

spacetweek

Not programmed until Nov 2014 but we'll see

joujoujou

I'd say it's more than likely it'll be finish ahead of schedule. Considering amount of tarmac being put already (in terms of levels difference - tarmac vs. kerbs) road's surface is done. But I'm open to corrections.




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My apologies for just only one location this time.

Pictures shot from R293 bridge, view to the East:



and close-up:



view to the west:



and close-up:

veryangryman

Signs in Supervalu yesterday - Bypass the bypass. Not bloody likely.

Endas done well for himself now, handy access to Dublin and Galway by the time his term ends.

lotusm

veryangryman wrote: »

Signs in Supervalu yesterday - Bypass the bypass. Not bloody likely.

Endas done well for himself now, handy access to Dublin and Galway by the time his term ends.

still another 30Km of brutal road from Ballaghade​rreen to Strokestown ... you must mean after the second term as Taoiseach

sonnyblack

lotusm wrote: »

still another 30Km of brutal road from Ballaghade​rreen to Strokestown ... you must mean after the second term as Taoiseach

The mayo boys are like stealth bombers. Working away quietly and next thing the entire N5 will be upgraded

yop

sonnyblack wrote: »

The mayo boys are like stealth bombers. Working away quietly and next thing the entire N5 will be upgraded

Suuush, we will be sussed out yet

Middle Man

joujoujou wrote: »

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What's clearly evident from these images is the extra width under/over the bridges. I guess provision is being made for an upgrade to at least Type 2 Dual in the future. If so, that's good forward planning IMO.

alentejo

Will I be able to overtake (safely)?

sonnyblack

Middle Man wrote: »

What's clearly evident from these images is the extra width under/over the bridges. I guess provision is being made for an upgrade to at least Type 2 Dual in the future. If so, that's good forward planning IMO.

Good God, Just how long will Enda be in power?

joujoujou

Middle Man wrote: »

What's clearly evident from these images is the extra width under/over the bridges. I guess provision is being made for an upgrade to at least Type 2 Dual in the future. If so, that's good forward planning IMO.

I doubt. For me it looks like them pylons would be too close to a road in case of upgrade to type 2 dual - AFAIK there must be a safe distance left between a road and pylons to reduce possibility of crash.

And I hope I'm wrong.

antoobrien

joujoujou wrote: »

I doubt. For me it looks like them pylons would be too close to a road in case of upgrade to type 2 dual - AFAIK there must be a safe distance left between a road and pylons to reduce possibility of crash.

They can be moved, as has been done for the M11 & M17/18 schemes.

spacetweek

veryangryman wrote: »

Signs in Supervalu yesterday - Bypass the bypass.

I don't follow that?

antoobrien

spacetweek wrote: »

I don't follow that?

Like the ones in Moate before the M6 opened - we look forward to seeing you again or something similar.

veryangryman

spacetweek wrote: »

I don't follow that?

They want people to come into the town to shop there instead of avoiding it. Hence "Bypass the bypass".

MayoSalmon

veryangryman wrote: »

They want people to come into the town to shop there instead of avoiding it. Hence "Bypass the bypass".

Surely only locals shop there anyway

road_high

I think it's a real shame this scheme wasn't made into 2&2. Very short sighted in my opinion. Would it really have cost much more? I doubt it. The pay offs in safety would be huge as well as the obvious efficiencies.

L1011

MayoSalmon wrote: »

Surely only locals shop there anyway

Fuel and food service business will move in part to stations that remain online. That's about it really.

veryangryman

MayoSalmon wrote: »

Surely only locals shop there anyway

Tesco in Swinford (for examle) becomes a slightly more attractive proposition for "big shops" from people living immediately east of the bypass. I guess thats what they fear.

spacetweek

road_high wrote: »

I think it's a real shame this scheme wasn't made into 2&2. Very short sighted in my opinion. Would it really have cost much more? I doubt it. The pay offs in safety would be huge as well as the obvious efficiencies.

Capital cost? Maybe not.
Maintenance? A lot more over the long term. More work to resurface, sweep, grit.

antoobrien

antoobrien wrote: »

Like the ones in Moate before the M6 opened - we look forward to seeing you again or something similar.

I don't think that I have ever driven through Moate since the motorway opened.

serfboard

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I don't think that I have ever driven through Moate since the motorway opened.

I have - and I was surprised at how busy it was. I thought it'd be deserted.

serfboard

serfboard wrote: »

I have - and I was surprised at how busy it was. I thought it'd be deserted.

that's why it was always such a nightmare to get through, all the local traffic plus the passing traffic was too much for the road to take.

Cars would be constantly joining and leaving the queue while driving through.