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N5 Ballaghaderreen Bypass

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    #152
    L1011
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    road_high wrote: »
    Why didn't they amke this 2+2? I thought all National Primaries were heading that way these days. Surely wouldn't have cost a whole lot more really.

    It costs enough more than the narrower profile S2 - its extremely close in cost to the old wide profile. Traffic figures must not have justified it.


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    #153
    yop
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 16,722 Mod ✭✭✭✭yop


    Wonder have they passing out lanes?
    Travelled from Cork city last Aug there to Mayo, was a great number of passing out lanes, made life a lot easier.
    Though I am sure if they were on that N5 road everyone would still hog the right lane :D


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    #154
    road_high
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    MYOB wrote: »
    It costs enough more than the narrower profile S2 - its extremely close in cost to the old wide profile. Traffic figures must not have justified it.

    A lot of the stretches of the inter-urbans did not justify motorway but was certainly the right decision to make them all M-way.
    I think 2+2 should be the minimum standard on all N Primaries like this now, the pay offs in safety and efficiency would be huge for not much more money.


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    #155
    spacetweek
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    road_high wrote: »
    I think 2+2 should be the minimum standard on all N Primaries like this now, the pay offs in safety and efficiency would be huge for not much more money.
    I still think you have to consider the higher maintenance costs of 2+2 in the long run compared to singler.
    There mightn't be much difference in build cost between WSC and 2+2 but 2+2 is more work to resurface, hedge trim, maintain the safety barrier etc.


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    #156
    MayoSalmon
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    spacetweek wrote: »
    I still think you have to consider the higher maintenance costs of 2+2 in the long run compared to singler.
    There mightn't be much difference in build cost between WSC and 2+2 but 2+2 is more work to resurface, hedge trim, maintain the safety barrier etc.

    Build it once & build it right


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    #157
    road_high
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    MayoSalmon wrote: »
    Build it once & build it right

    I think 2+2 should be standard on routes like this


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    #158
    bijou
    Registered Users Posts: 412 ✭✭bijou


    I know it's nothing to do with the bypass, but if true...... it's about time!

    http://www.shannonside.ie/news/e1m-approved-for-impact-studies-on-n5-around-tulsk/


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    #159
    sonnyblack
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    bijou wrote: »
    I know it's nothing to do with the bypass, but if true...... it's about time!

    http://www.shannonside.ie/news/e1m-approved-for-impact-studies-on-n5-around-tulsk/

    Enda and Ring upgrading the route to Mayo by stealth. Where is the money coming from? Nothing for N20 since 2001.


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    #160
    yop
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    1m quid will hardly pay for the tea and sandwiches for them!!! It wouldn't do a lot I think?


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    #161
    dubhthach
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    Given the minefield that is Cruachan Ai it's no wonder they have to spend so much doing impact study. Particulary as the site is earmarked as potential UNESCO world heritage site.


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    #162
    spacetweek
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    I thought an upgrade of the N5 through there had pretty much been ruled out ages ago due to the impossibility of avoiding damage to archaeological sites.


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    #163
    dubhthach
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    spacetweek wrote: »
    I thought an upgrade of the N5 through there had pretty much been ruled out ages ago due to the impossibility of avoiding damage to archaeological sites.

    Check out the maps that Lotusm posted in this post:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=81560600&postcount=90

    The proposed route selection would give the site a wide berth.


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    #164
    bijou
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    sonnyblack wrote: »
    Enda and Ring upgrading the route to Mayo by stealth.

    It's probably only so he can spend the least time possible in or passing through Roscommon!!!!! :D:D


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    #165
    antoobrien
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    bijou wrote: »
    It's probably only so he can spend the least time possible in or passing through Roscommon!!!!! :D:D

    There is a downside to that, it's easier for ming to get over to annoy him.


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    #166
    joujoujou
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    The new N5 is black now. ;)

    The brigde on R293 is (nearly) finished - at least traffic goes on it already. :D

    Will do my best to shoot some photos, hopefully Monday or Tuesday if weather let me go out of my house. :o


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    #167
    joujoujou
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    Well, it looked black while travelled nearby, not so good when walked around here and there. :o

    R293 view from the bridge.

    To the East:

    286703.jpg

    To the West (you can see old R293 going across):

    286704.jpg

    And the bridge itself:

    286705.jpg

    As before, went from here to the west, so next place.

    View to the East (from another bridge):

    286706.jpg

    And bridge itself:

    286708.jpg


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    #168
    joujoujou
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    Same place, to the West:

    286710.jpg

    And close-up:

    286711.jpg

    Another place, nothing really to see here. ;)

    To the East:

    286712.jpg

    To the West:

    286713.jpg


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    #169
    joujoujou
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    Another spot, view to the East:

    286714.jpg

    Bridge is here as well:

    286715.jpg

    Going further West.

    View to the East:

    286716.jpg

    And West:

    286717.jpg

    Old N5 will meet new one somewhere here:

    286718.jpg

    200m along the road:

    286719.jpg

    I'm very sorry I didn't go East of Ballaghaderreen this time. :o


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    #170
    macker16
    Registered Users Posts: 82 ✭✭macker16


    here is a few more to the east


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    #171
    godskitchen
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    It still looks really narrow to me!


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    #172
    macker16
    Registered Users Posts: 82 ✭✭macker16


    godskitchen wrote: »
    It still looks really narrow to me!

    I thought the same but it not when your on it


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    #173
    tonytoc11
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    Are they nearly finished laying the CBM layer on the mainline?


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    #174
    serfboard
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    joujoujou wrote: »
    R293 view from the bridge ... View to the East (from another bridge)
    I was wondering how many bridges were on the scheme, so I went onto OpenStreetMap and counted 9 possible bridges :eek: Could that be right? One over the R293 (which I see is going to be a GSJ), one over the River Lung, and 7 over local roads? No wonder its' a two-year project.


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    #175
    joujoujou
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    It is possible. But I have no information how's a bypass going east of R293, so open to corrections.

    I'd say at most 4 bridges west of R293 (including R293). :)


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    #176
    macker16
    Registered Users Posts: 82 ✭✭macker16


    street lights going up on main bridge


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    #177
    macker16
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    just a few pictures


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    #178
    JupiterKid
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    From those pics it looks like good progress is being made. :)


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    #179
    Ascii
    Registered Users Posts: 387 ✭✭Ascii


    5 overbridges and 1 river bridge = six structures in total


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    #180
    tharlear
    Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭tharlear


    In pic SAM_0169.jgp there appears to be two back to back bends in the road, why was this not straight?


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    #181
    L1011
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    tharlear wrote: »
    In pic SAM_0169.jgp there appears to be two back to back bends in the road, why was this not straight?

    Can't see what you mean myself. However, if that is the case there's a few possibilities - land acquisition costs (road goes all the way through one parcel of land), ground issues, and also dead straight single-carriageway roads are considered a bad idea particularly if there are overbridges - they're believed to cause people to consider themselves to be on motorways.


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