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Are you going to pay the household charge? [Part 1]

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    #9812
    Bullseye1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,731 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    alastair wrote: »
    It's not a request. I think that's where you made your mistake.

    Actually it is a request. They have asked you to voluntarily register and pay.


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    #9813
    gerryo777
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    I wonder will the pro tax brigade organise a march looking for more taxes.
    There'd be great placards, "we want more", "tax my kids", "tax my bike" etc etc.
    DV and alaistair would be at the front in high-viz jackets with loudhailers shouting for more.
    It'd be great to watch.:D


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    #9814
    Bullseye1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,731 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    alastair wrote: »
    I'm self employed. Let me ask myself...


    yep - still a fair system.

    How is it fair to discriminate?


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    #9815
    lividduck
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,250 ✭✭✭lividduck


    alastair wrote: »
    I'm self employed. Let me ask myself...


    yep - still a fair system.
    Its legal but there is no way that it could be remotley described as fair or just.


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    #9816
    gerryo777
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    alastair wrote: »
    You're not invisible - if you're liable, you'll be paying up sooner or later.

    I'll invite big phil to my home, I'm not hiding from anyone son!


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    #9817
    Bullseye1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,731 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    Anyone wrote: »
    They wont have any option but to pay the €110+interest. A payment of less wont be accepted.

    So they will return cheques and cash?


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    #9818
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,307 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Bullseye1 wrote: »
    Actually it is a request. They have asked you to voluntarily register and pay.

    They've asked you to voluntarily register - but the payment is certainly not an option - it's your legal obligation.


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    #9819
    lividduck
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,250 ✭✭✭lividduck


    gerryo777 wrote: »
    I wonder will the pro tax brigade organise a march looking for more taxes.
    There'd be great placards, "we want more", "tax my kids", "tax my bike" etc etc.
    DV and alaistair would be at the front in high-viz jackets with loudhailers shouting for more.
    It'd be great to watch.:D
    LOL 10 out of 10, has to post of the day!


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    #9820
    murpho999
    Registered Users Posts: 28,391 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Well paid ours today.

    Don't know why people are complaining so much.

    Lived in Holland for 7 years, paid higher income tax than here and then every January got a bill from local council for around €1500 for local taxes.

    In Ireland people want the best public services, road, hospitals etc but don't want to pay for them!


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    #9821
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,307 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Bullseye1 wrote: »
    How is it fair to discriminate?

    There isn't any discrimination - all home owners are liable (excepting those in unfinished estates). Just as all motorists are liable for motor tax. No car ownership, no tax, no home ownership, no property tax.


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    #9822
    Freddie59
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,679 ✭✭✭Freddie59


    PocketAA wrote: »
    Get over it pay 100euros
    And what about the next one hundred euro - or one thousand euro?
    PocketAA wrote: »
    Reduce Income tax in favour of fixed property taxes
    do you actually understand the implications of this - or even what you are talking about?
    PocketAA wrote: »
    Reward the worker - Reward Innovation

    Utopia. You've obviously woken up from a prolonged sleep. The worker is screwed in Ireland - not rewarded. At every turn.
    PocketAA wrote: »
    reduce the burden on direct wage taxation !!

    How?
    PocketAA wrote: »
    UP HOUSEHOLD CHARGE - DOWN WITH UNIVERSAL SOCIAL CHARGE AND INCOMETAX

    Do you think you're at a GAA match or something?


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    #9823
    gerryo777
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    murpho999 wrote: »
    Well paid ours today.

    Don't know why people are complaining so much.

    Lived in Holland for 7 years, paid higher income tax than here and then every January got a bill from local council for around €1500 for local taxes.

    In Ireland people want the best public services, road, hospitals etc but don't want to pay for them!

    Thing is, we don't get these things.


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    #9824
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,307 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    gerryo777 wrote: »
    I wonder will the pro tax brigade organise a march looking for more taxes.
    There'd be great placards, "we want more", "tax my kids", "tax my bike" etc etc.
    DV and alaistair would be at the front in high-viz jackets with loudhailers shouting for more.
    It'd be great to watch.:D

    Do you reckon we'd match the HUGE numbers of today's bash?


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    #9825
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,492 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Anyone wrote: »
    They wont have any option but to pay the €110+interest. A payment of less wont be accepted.

    If it was 1e I still wouldn't pay it.


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    #9826
    Bullseye1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,731 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    murpho999 wrote: »
    In Ireland people want the best public services, road, hospitals etc but don't want to pay for them!

    Even when the country was awash with money our services where crap. So how is another €160 going to improve anything.


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    #9827
    Anyone
    Registered Users Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Anyone


    Bullseye1 wrote: »
    So they will return cheques and cash?

    Well they wont accept cash by post, from what I heard, posted forms will be accepted up to next week, any direct debit will deduct the full amount due.


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    #9828
    lividduck
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,250 ✭✭✭lividduck


    murpho999 wrote: »
    Well paid ours today.

    Don't know why people are complaining so much.

    Lived in Holland for 7 years, paid higher income tax than here and then every January got a bill from local council for around €1500 for local taxes.

    In Ireland people want the best public services, road, hospitals etc but don't want to pay for them!
    Yes, but we dont get the best public services, me and the OH pay two grand a year in Health insurance, pay the doctor,pay the dentist,pay for refuse collection,pay business rates, the roads are ok but our motor tax more than covers them!


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    #9829
    phil1nj
    Registered Users Posts: 716 ✭✭✭phil1nj


    alastair wrote: »
    They've asked you to voluntarily register - but the payment is certainly not an option - it's your legal obligation.

    Just like paying the Poll Tax was a legal obligation when you lived in London, eh alastair?:D


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    #9830
    gerryo777
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭gerryo777


    alastair wrote: »
    Do you reckon we'd match the HUGE numbers of today's bash?

    Don't know, organise it and see.


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    #9831
    Bullseye1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,731 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    alastair wrote: »
    There isn't any discrimination - all home owners are liable (excepting those in unfinished estates). Just as all motorists are liable for motor tax. No car ownership, no tax, no home onership, no property tax.

    Your not responding to the question I asked. Go back and look at what you quoted and then get back to me. Hint self employed and social welfare.


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    #9832
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,492 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    alastair wrote: »
    Do you reckon we'd match the HUGE numbers of today's bash?

    What ? ONE MILLION protested today. I didn't leave my armchair to pay this unjust tax.


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    #9833
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,307 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    phil1nj wrote: »
    Just like paying the Poll Tax was a legal obligation when you lived in London, eh alastair?:D

    So, we're in agreement that there wasn't any request for payment - but rather an obligation? Grand so.


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    #9834
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,307 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Bullseye1 wrote: »
    Your not responding to the question I asked. Go back and look at what you quoted and then get back to me. Hint self employed and social welfare.

    I'm happy with my response. Cheers.


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    #9835
    My name is URL
    Registered Users Posts: 25,060 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    So Phil (I'm too poor to take a pay cut) Hogan has thanked the true patriots of this country, the ones that have paid up and not caused a stir about it.

    Samuel Johnson's famous line about 'patriotism' has never rung truer.


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    #9836
    Bullseye1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,731 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    Anyone wrote: »
    Well they wont accept cash by post, from what I heard, posted forms will be accepted up to next week, any direct debit will deduct the full amount due.

    What happens if someone posts the form in next week or a month from now with a cheque or bank draft for €100? Will they send out a request for €10?

    I would not be surprised if they announce an extension forum til September. Leo Veradker mentioned that they only needed to have €160 million in by the end of the tax year.


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    #9837
    alastair
    Registered Users Posts: 19,307 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    tayto lover wrote: »
    What ? ONE MILLION protested today. I didn't leave my armchair to pay this unjust tax.

    I'm familiar with armchair experts. They haven't a great rep.


    I'll assume that the armchair boycotters of the protest are equally strident in their opposition to the campaigners then?


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    #9838
    Anyone
    Registered Users Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Anyone


    Bullseye1 wrote: »
    What happens if someone posts the form in next week or a month from now with a cheque or bank draft for €100? Will they send out a request for €10?

    I would not be surprised if they announce an extension forum til September. Leo Veradker mentioned that they only needed to have €160 million in by the end of the tax year.

    I've no idea to be honest, and I stopped listening to Leo ages ago, lol that guy just wrecks my head, any chance to get on the TV and he takes it.


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    #9839
    Bullseye1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,731 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    alastair wrote: »
    I'm happy with my response. Cheers.

    I thought you might be. :D


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    #9840
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,492 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    alastair wrote: »
    I'm familiar with armchair experts. They haven't a great rep.


    I'll assume that the armchair boycotters of the protest are equally strident in their opposition to the campaigners then?

    Maybe that's why I missed you for the last few days:rolleyes:

    ONE MILLION is some protest !!!


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    #9841
    Anyone
    Registered Users Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Anyone


    Out of curiosity, is there anything stopping the Gov doing what was done in Greece? There, they put the charge on the electricity bill, if you didnt pay it, you got cut off.


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