Vehicle Gallery - Discussion Thread

Capri

kub wrote: »

Ratracer, you have given me an idea, why don't the emergency services vehicle procurement come together and approach someone like Mercedes or VAG, with batch tenders for Garda, Ambulance and Fire vehicles?

That would surely be a nice bulk order that would look like an attractive prize to a vehicle manufacturer.

Can of worms in the UK ?

http://www.nao.org.uk/press-releases/police-procurement-3/

https://www.bluelight.gov.uk/portal/nwpolice/portal.nsf/vLiveDocs/PD-DEVA-82TLAK?OpenDocument

http://content.met.police.uk/Article/Procurement-processes/1400015810115/1400015810115

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201314/cmselect/cmpubacc/115/115.pdf

wotswattage

Capri wrote: »

Can of worms in the UK ?

http://www.nao.org.uk/press-releases/police-procurement-3/

https://www.bluelight.gov.uk/portal/nwpolice/portal.nsf/vLiveDocs/PD-DEVA-82TLAK?OpenDocument

http://content.met.police.uk/Article/Procurement-processes/1400015810115/1400015810115

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201314/cmselect/cmpubacc/115/115.pdf

(From the last pdf)

Money is wasted when the 43 police forces in England and Wales pay widely varying prices
for very similar items. The Police currently spend 13% of their income, amounting to £1.7
billion, procuring the items they need.

How much would AGS or the PSNI spend on equipment as a %% of total expenditure?

Capri

Helping to fight crime on our streets in the form of a new Opel Insignia 2.0CDTi BiTurbo high performance diesel engine with 195hp


http://www.independent.ie/life/motoring/car-news/garda-traffic-corps-get-20-new-opels-in-2015-30925585.html

We love that manual handbrakes have been fitted for "operational effectiveness" we all know what that means

donvito99

Capri wrote: »

Helping to fight crime on our streets in the form of a new Opel Insignia 2.0CDTi BiTurbo high performance diesel engine with 195hp


http://www.independent.ie/life/motoring/car-news/garda-traffic-corps-get-20-new-opels-in-2015-30925585.html

Unusual. Certainly wouldn't have expected a photo call of this nature a few years ago. I think we'll have to reserve our judgement until those who use them say if they're any good or not on a day to day, incident to incident basis.

carzony

Just shows how bad the fleet must be if their publishing articles about 20 opel insignias.

Capri

Capri wrote: »

Helping to fight crime on our streets in the form of a new Opel Insignia 2.0CDTi BiTurbo high performance diesel engine with 195hp


http://www.independent.ie/life/motoring/car-news/garda-traffic-corps-get-20-new-opels-in-2015-30925585.html

It means you can get out of the car quicker to chase a gouger. Waiting for an electronic handbrake to engage fully wastes valuable seconds when someone is fleeing.

kub

carzony wrote: »

Just shows how bad the fleet must be if their publishing articles about 20 opel insignias.

It is like an article you would read in a 3rd world country.

D Trent

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It means you can get out of the car quicker to chase a gouger. Waiting for an electronic handbrake to engage fully wastes valuable seconds when someone is fleeing.

Hahaha do u think a Traffic Garda would chase anyone on foot?
Not s chance in hell

They'd have Alpha Sierra to do that work for em, if Alpha Sierra isn't avail they'd have Delta Sierra, if no Delta Sierra they'd make sure compol or a regular unit was there to chase on foot

Old diesel

donvito99 wrote: »

Unusual. Certainly wouldn't have expected a photo call of this nature a few years ago. I think we'll have to reserve our judgement until those who use them say if they're any good or not on a day to day, incident to incident basis.

I think that article sounds like Opel have put a press release out promoting the fact the Gardaí have bought the 20 Insignias.

The Black Oil

Inevitable puff piece to follow the photo op. Oh well.

D Trent

D Trent wrote: »

Hahaha do u think a Traffic Garda would chase anyone on foot?
Not s chance in hell

I do. But my point is more about the comment about the inclusion of a manual handbrake being for mischief.

donvito99

Saw one of the new Insignias today actually. Has one arrived at DMRS Pearse St? Maybe Terenure. Looked well, no ANPR. I imagine that there has been no ANPR inclusion with newer vehicles since the original installation on vehicles?

carzony

I wonder will the Garda be getting any of those new mondoes?

https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/

POGAN

donvito99 wrote: »

Saw one of the new Insignias today actually. Has one arrived at DMRS Pearse St? Maybe Terenure. Looked well, no ANPR. I imagine that there has been no ANPR inclusion with newer vehicles since the original installation on vehicles?

Castle got few & Pearse street got one.ANPr depends on the area how many cars get it but some of 131 Mondeo got them i40s got them too but i30s can't get it

POGAN

It's only one 2014 BMW x5 they got its ex demo one, the Garda fleet page post picture of one it port English markings they bought it and remarked it as Garda it's a police spec

ratracer

Cracking looking machine, where will that be based?

POGAN

ratracer wrote: »

Cracking looking machine, where will that be based?

No clue yet.

kub

POGAN wrote: »

No clue yet.

Surely Limerick or Cork

POGAN

kub wrote: »

Surely Limerick or Cork

Wouldn't bet my house on that

kub

POGAN wrote: »

Wouldn't bet my house on that

Neither would I but considering that the BMW in Anglesea St, is a 05 and constantly on the go surely that is coming up to its higher mileage limit.
I suppose my logic is that these are the two major urban centres outside of Dublin and that there is no RSU there.

ratracer

I see in today's Sunday World that AGS have a BMW R1200 bike on trial, any pics of it lads?

POGAN

kub wrote: »

Neither would I but considering that the BMW in Anglesea St, is a 05 and constantly on the go surely that is coming up to its higher mileage limit.
I suppose my logic is that these are the two major urban centres outside of Dublin and that there is no RSU there.

Dmr should get the RSU in next two year . They are high but because of police spec they will go longer than 300,000

kub

I thought it was 500k with bigger vehicles?

Capri

ratracer wrote: »

I see in today's Sunday World that AGS have a BMW R1200 bike on trial, any pics of it lads?

Saw it last w/end but it was 12D so reckoned it was the one they've had for a while now - HSE have some as well .

POGAN

kub wrote: »

I thought it was 500k with bigger vehicles?

On the vans and jeeps are 500,000 no one knows about the rsu stuff to be honest

Markcheese

On very expensive/specialist vehicles that do high milage I assume it's a bit like triggers broom -? New or recon engines , gearboxes ,new brakes,new suspension.
So does mileage matter ?
Also will the old vehicles be kept on as spares to cover when a regular car is being serviced -

Capri

Markcheese wrote: »

On very expensive/specialist vehicles that do high milage I assume it's a bit like triggers broom -? New or recon engines , gearboxes ,new brakes,new suspension.
So does mileage matter ?
Also will the old vehicles be kept on as spares to cover when a regular car is being serviced -

One thing replacing mechanical bits, but let's put it this way, these yokes aren't always used on motorways like the UK stuff, and Irish speed ramps TBH don't follow any specificationsalong with the back roads still in sh1t so body stress cracks have to be factored in (when they can be seen - remember the Sierras cracking along the front valance/bulkhead ). 500k going up and down a motorway, but 300k for 'regular' use ? :rolleyes:

kooga

Capri wrote: »

Helping to fight crime on our streets in the form of a new Opel Insignia 2.0CDTi BiTurbo high performance diesel engine with 195hp


http://www.independent.ie/life/motoring/car-news/garda-traffic-corps-get-20-new-opels-in-2015-30925585.html

was passed by on one the m50 last monday night.

better to be in one of those than a hyundai estate

heffomike54

kooga wrote: »

was passed by on one the m50 last monday night.

better to be in one of those than a hyundai estate

Saw one of these machines or two of them, twice this week on the N3, cars pulled in both directions :eek:

Capri, Thats a Mondeo from the Driving School on the Response part of the course.

https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/attachments/77065/336912.jpg