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    #2522
    Larbre34
    Registered Users Posts: 23,822 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    January wrote: »
    My mam was in Tyrellstown today, she parked around the back of the dry cleaners and before she got out of the car heard a bang. She got out of the car and there was a dent on her boot, and a lump of breeze block beside it. Turns out some kids had thrown it from the balcony above. Could have killed her. She found the mother and let her know but something to be aware of.

    The 'mother' my foot. Your Mam should go to Blanch station and make a complaint about the act and the damage. Not phone, go in person.

    Little d1ckheads like that dont do something like that because 'they dont know any better'. Need to have their ideas bucked up early in life.


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    #2523
    Tiger Mcilroy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,562 ✭✭✭Tiger Mcilroy


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    The 'mother' my foot. Your Mam should go to Blanch station and make a complaint about the act and the damage. Not phone, go in person.

    Little d1ckheads like that dont do something like that because 'they dont know any better'. Need to have their ideas bucked up early in life.

    This is the only course of action, clearly the "mother" is incapable of parenting and the guards should be contacted to hopefully correct the behaviour of this child.


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    #2524
    eviltwin
    Registered Users Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Jesus January, your poor mum. I wouldn't let that go. The damage to the car is one thing but if it had hit her it could have been catastrophic.


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    #2525
    beauf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,651 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    eviltwin wrote: »
    Jesus January, your poor mum. I wouldn't let that go. The damage to the car is one thing but if it had hit her it could have been catastrophic.

    +1

    Probably a few hundred worth of damage. If they do it again they could kill someone.

    Even good kids occasionally do something moronic. But you'd expect the parent would insist on paying for the damage if they had any
    ... Can't think of the word....


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    #2526
    Pinch Flat
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    beauf wrote: »
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    Even good kids occasionally do something moronic.

    Yeah but good kids don't droip breeze blocks from balconies....
    beauf wrote: »
    But you'd expect the parent would insist on paying for the damage if they had any
    beauf wrote: »
    ... Can't think of the word....

    Parental Responsibility? (ok, that's two)


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    #2527
    chucknorris
    Registered Users Posts: 1,633 ✭✭✭chucknorris


    What would happen if you threw the breeze block back where it came from? Would the other lady let it go?

    I wouldn't be paying for the damage to my car - they would.


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    #2528
    TICKLE_ME_ELMO
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,926 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    beauf wrote: »
    +1

    Probably a few hundred worth of damage. If they do it again they could kill someone.

    Even good kids occasionally do something moronic. But you'd expect the parent would insist on paying for the damage if they had any
    ... Can't think of the word....

    Decency?
    Shame?
    Sense of responsibility?


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    #2529
    beauf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,651 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    I would suggest people ensure they have all their doors secured for uprated, snap locks, window pane removal, bolts on doors top and bottom, so they can't be levered, ditto windows. Movement PIR in front and back downstairs. Keys upstairs. Locks on bikes even if in a shed. Sheds securely locked. Bolts and locks on shed secured through the frame of the structure.


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    #2530
    ThisRegard
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    TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »
    Did she press charges?

    She can't press charges. She can go to the gardai about it though, but if they decide to proceed is debatable as they'll claim their minors and there's not a lot they can do about it.


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    #2531
    TICKLE_ME_ELMO
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    ThisRegard wrote: »
    She can't press charges. She can go to the gardai about it though, but if they decide to proceed is debatable as they'll claim their minors and there's not a lot they can do about it.

    Criminal damage is criminal damage. The Guards should be abe to charge the parents if the children are underage. They might start putting some manners on them then.


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    #2532
    Pinch Flat
    Registered Users Posts: 7,761 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    beauf wrote: »
    I would suggest people ensure they have all their doors secured for uprated, snap locks, window pane removal, bolts on doors top and bottom, so they can't be levered, ditto windows. Movement PIR in front and back downstairs. Keys upstairs.

    All good advice. Considering removing and glueing my window panes this weekend - I have a PIR now activated in the kitchen which will at least activate if they enter through the window. Hall door closed and locked as well.
    beauf wrote: »
    Locks on bikes even if in a shed. Sheds securely locked. Bolts and locks on shed secured through the frame of the structure.

    The local Castleknock Cycling Club sent around an email this morning and have noted bikes going missing from sheds over the last few weeks - Riverwood / Luttrellstown area I suspect (don't have specifics).

    Don't bother with a cable locks for bikes - spend money on a decent hardened steel lock if your bike is anyway valuable. Lock it some something immobile (ladder, lawn mover etc) or even better fit a ground anchor to make it more difficult. Ensure it's locked as awkward as possible to prevent leverage for a bolt cutter removing the lock.


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    #2533
    January
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,865 ✭✭✭✭January


    Sorry only getting back to this now, just getting the full story off my mam this morning (my sister had filled me in last night).

    The kid that did it was only about 5 years old my mam said, she said that the mother threatened to beat the child if they lied over who did it (there were three children on the balcony at the time) and that kind of flustered my mother a bit. She didn't call the Garda but is going to pop down to them today just to have it reported. The mother made some reference to not being able to afford paying as she had no job but as I said to my mam, so what, she'll just have to figure a way to pay for the damage, I said even half would be something. The car is not brand new, new to her but it's a 2009 Prius and she's only had it about a month.

    I doubt the kid will do it again but you never know and it's just something to be aware of if you're in the area.


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    #2534
    Arciphel
    Registered Users Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭Arciphel


    Sounds like a social worker should be paying them a visit too by the sounds of it.


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    #2535
    TICKLE_ME_ELMO
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    Arciphel wrote: »
    Sounds like a social worker should be paying them a visit too by the sounds of it.

    Exactly. Why threaten to beat a child when you've left a 5 year old playing on a balcony with a breeze block.


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    #2536
    ThisRegard
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    5 year olds do some pretty stupid things, and seek out anything to be mischievous with, even bricks. I doubt the kids were given a block of concrete to play with, most likely it was lying around used for something or another.

    To look to have them charged with criminal damage or reported to social workers is a tad over the top imo. That's not to say that the lady shouldn't be compensated in some way.


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    #2537
    TICKLE_ME_ELMO
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    ThisRegard wrote: »
    5 year olds do some pretty stupid things, and seek out anything to be mischievous with, even bricks. I doubt the kids were given a block of concrete to play with, most likely it was lying around used for something or another.

    To look to have them charged with criminal damage or reported to social workers is a tad over the top imo. That's not to say that the lady shouldn't be compensated in some way.

    We'll have to agree to disagree there. It's not relevant to this thread anyway so I'll say no more.


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    #2538
    Arciphel
    Registered Users Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭Arciphel


    I've got a five year old - funnily enough, they haven't been flinging concrete cinder blocks from balconies onto cars anytime recently.


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    #2539
    Tiger Mcilroy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,562 ✭✭✭Tiger Mcilroy


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    5 year olds do some pretty stupid things, and seek out anything to be mischievous with, even bricks. I doubt the kids were given a block of concrete to play with, most likely it was lying around used for something or another.

    To look to have them charged with criminal damage or reported to social workers is a tad over the top imo. That's not to say that the lady shouldn't be compensated in some way.

    In what way is it over the top?..that lady could have been getting something from the boot of the car at the time and this would be a very different story.


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    #2540
    January
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,865 ✭✭✭✭January


    Lidl Tyrellstown robbed tonight, reports of someone being hurt with an axe. From David McGuiness Facebook page


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    #2541
    BabysCoffee
    Registered Users Posts: 4,712 ✭✭✭BabysCoffee


    January wrote: »
    Lidl Tyrellstown robbed tonight, reports of someone being hurt with an axe. From David McGuiness Facebook page


    Again!!!! :eek::eek::eek:


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    #2542
    Pinch Flat
    Registered Users Posts: 7,761 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    Heard through the grapevine of two nabbed in carpenterstown over the past couple of evenings while breaking into houses - guards had been called after one house alarm was set off and hiy spotted them in back garden, caught red handed leaving a neighbours house. One finglas, one Tallaght, both with previous convictions.

    Wouldn't let the guard down though - the justice system can't deal with these scumbags, so chances are they'll be up to their scummy ways soon enough


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    #2543
    KGLady
    Registered Users Posts: 338 ✭✭KGLady


    I know its a small thing... but its SO frustrating, some charmer of a neighbour has helped themselves to my bin tag today. Furious and disappointed as I live in a cul de sac with no through traffic, so it was most likely a neighbour took it in the short time I was on the school run. e8.35 :mad:


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    #2544
    StoptheClocks
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    KGLady wrote: »
    I know its a small thing... but its SO frustrating, some charmer of a neighbour has helped themselves to my bin tag today. Furious and disappointed as I live in a cul de sac with no through traffic, so it was most likely a neighbour took it in the short time I was on the school run. e8.35 :mad:

    I feel your frustration. I lived in a house in town and my Neighbour kept topping up my bin before it got picked up. I got a €125 fine from the litter warden because the binmen refused to pick up the bin and it was left on the street while I was at work.
    It took weeks for me to catch the neighbour red handed . Next door was bedsits. They dumped their letters one day and I had proof it was them. Told my landlord to got onto their landlord to sort it out.
    Still it had me looking out the window for weeks trying to catch someone using my bin :)


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    #2545
    chucknorris
    Registered Users Posts: 1,633 ✭✭✭chucknorris


    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/teenage-girl-13-has-bag-pulled-over-head-by-man-in-latest-abduction-bid-31095720.html


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    #2546
    whatsername42
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    chucknorris wrote: »
    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/teenage-girl-13-has-bag-pulled-over-head-by-man-in-latest-abduction-bid-31095720.html

    Wonder if there is any connection with the incident in mount symon last week. Both girls around the same age. Terrible thing to happen. Poor girl.


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    #2547
    Larbre34
    Registered Users Posts: 23,822 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    The reference in the article to Mount Sycamore Green is an error, as there is no such place so we'll assume thats the Mount Symon incident.

    I don't think theres much doubt the incidents are being linked, its too frequent and too proximate.

    The description of the assailants as "scumbags" doesnt really cut it, this is much more sinister and potentially harmful than local scrotes out for kicks.

    The descriptions being provided aren't detailed enough.

    Was there anyone ever identified or prosecuted for the assault on the girl at the end of the Latchford / Ongar Park laneway that featured on Crimecall a couple of years back?


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    #2548
    chucknorris
    Registered Users Posts: 1,633 ✭✭✭chucknorris


    Personally I feel the people are scumbags who are engaged in it and my mates share the same view and wording.

    ps: The article is a bit wrong on detail.


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    #2549
    handlemaster
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    sad thing is when caught they dont get time or very little and are back out again with better criminal / perverted skills


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    #2550
    chucknorris
    Registered Users Posts: 1,633 ✭✭✭chucknorris


    handlemaster wrote: »
    sad thing is when caught they dont get time or very little and are back out again with better criminal / perverted skills

    Agreed. If these people received a guaranteed 10 year sentence, it may not change them, but it'll keep them from society for a very long time.


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    #2551
    Arciphel
    Registered Users Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭Arciphel


    Chuck, this news item as reported in the papers today is very concerning.
    However, according to the information I received this incident didn't happen as described, and is being blown out of proportion - that the girl in question was in fact the victim of a prank by other kids in her school/class.
    Her parents reported the matter to the school and the gardai and it was only later that it was realised that the girl in question knew the kids who had carried this out as some kind of ill-advised prank.
    I have contacted the community garda for confirmation as to what the details of this case are, so far as they can tell me.
    Did you get confirmation from the gardai as to the particulars of this case?


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