Great news to all those up in the North!

DEFTLEFTHAND · 02-12-2011 10:06pm

A total none issue in my book, They're part of the UK, the Union flag flies over Stormont.

ejmaztec · 02-12-2011 10:12pm

There must be more Union Jacks in the North than anywhere else on the entire planet.

Richard · 02-12-2011 10:25pm

Chuck Stone wrote: »

I dunno. There are places in the north where there are no flags agreements. I understand why. I would rather live in an estate with a no flags agreement than one without.

There shouldn't be any flags stuck to lamposts, or kerbstones painted. Flags should be used sparingly.

Chuck Stone · 02-12-2011 10:39pm

Richard wrote: »

There shouldn't be any flags stuck to lamposts, or kerbstones painted. Flags should be used sparingly.

Because it's public property?

steddyeddy · 02-12-2011 10:49pm

Chuck Stone wrote: »

Because it's public property?

And because a lot of them are up to incite hate. Its about context.

Sunnyisland · 02-12-2011 10:52pm

ejmaztec wrote: »

There must be more Union Jacks in the North than anywhere else on the entire planet.

Efforts to reduce the number of flags flown in Northern Ireland during the summer months have failed, with almost 4,000 flags erected in July last year alone.
And despite a slight reduction in the number of flags and paramilitary emblems in the last five years, researchers have said it does not constitute a significant amount.
It comes as Queen's University scholars publish their latest report into the public display of flags and emblems in Northern Ireland. Led by Dr Dominic Bryan, director of the Institute of Irish Studies, the report shows that the number of flags flying during the summer months has remained "remarkably consistent" over the last five years.

Read more: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/no-significant-reduction-in-flying-of-flags-flown-in-northern-ireland-16017254.html#ixzz1fPtP7WF1

Chuck Stone · 02-12-2011 10:52pm

steddyeddy wrote: »

And because a lot of them are up to incite hate. Its about context.

It's a bit like dogs pissing on lamp posts - a territorial thing.

Sunnyisland · 02-12-2011 10:54pm

Even around Easter there were more than twice the number of unionist flags and symbols on display than nationalist, something described in the report as "striking".

They are a very insecure lot them pesky unionists.

Dionysus · 02-12-2011 11:02pm

Back in the day it was generally agreed that all these union jacks (and increasing number of marches) were a symbol of something called the "siege mentality" among Britain's "Pieds Noirs" in Ireland.

There have been numerous, if not countless, studies done on this siege mentality phenomenon in the unionist community. According to Todd and Ruane even the standard use of the term "the mainland" in the unionist community can be dated to the outbreak of the Troubles when they wanted to accentuate their links to Britain more.

charlemont · 02-12-2011 11:09pm

stoneill wrote: »

I was in France two years ago and I was amazed at how many French tri-colour flags were flying.
And all those German flags in Germany.
And a good friend of mine in Canada told me the place is full of Canadian flags.

FFS, what is the world coming to?

The Polish flag also hung proudly by the side of the M8 after it opened.:D

Dionysus · 02-12-2011 11:09pm

kupus wrote: »

The guy talking about the Caribbean flag needs a shoe up the hole along with all the other lefty whinge-bags........
whaaa union jack flying outside whaaaa whinge. ITS BRITAIN. what other flag would they fly.
numbnuts.

It's not, as even a four-year-old could tell you, but hey don't let that minor fact interrupt a good rant.

Chuck Stone · 02-12-2011 11:10pm

Dionysus wrote: »

Back in the day it was generally agreed that all these union jacks (and increasing number of marches) were a symbol of something called the "siege mentality" among Britain's "Pieds Noirs" in Ireland.

Something Paisley fed off like a hungry parasite.

ejmaztec · 02-12-2011 11:14pm

charlemont wrote: »

The Polish flag also hung proudly by the side of the M8 after it opened.:D

The red white and blue kerbstones in the North bring tears to the eyes of any French tourists visiting, so the whole island is the centre of international love-fests.

charlemont · 02-12-2011 11:15pm

The Israeli flag flying in the "Loyal West bank" by Abercorn Street, Derry isn't half funny, Its bloody hilarious..

BTW KeithAFC say's he has not one not two but three flags at his house..

Nodin · 02-12-2011 11:17pm

kupus wrote: »

The guy talking about the Caribbean flag needs a shoe up the hole along with all the other lefty whinge-bags........ whaaa union jack flying outside whaaaa whinge. ITS THE UK. FIXED. What other flag would they fly. numbnuts.

Mark my words some day in the not too distant future, they'll be crying about the Tricolor flying from buildings here during Paddy's Day, but of course they will put the elf and safety aspect to it, only registered technicians with a registered safe-pass ticket and a registered cherry picker can place a registered tricolor on a building.........

, so now back onto the topic kevin cassie and gandee

is it ok for the looney left whinging baw bags to stop people from flying their national flag from a flag pole?
A simple yes or no will suffice.

Did you arrive here from the 80's in a Brit Tabloid Time Machine?

Fbjm · 02-12-2011 11:17pm

donutface wrote: »

Absolutely, I don't see how this is relevant though. Northern Ireland is a multicultural society where a group of people (it doesn't matter how big or small) finds the union jack offensive.

Do you even know that northern ireland is british? According to your 'logic', if one crackpot american in the ROI wanted all Irish flags taken down and have them replaced with the stars and stripes, they would have to be changed. But then the irish would be offended, so would it have to changed back? And keep going like that? Or perhaps it's 'majority rules', according to your new version of logic.

Dionysus · 02-12-2011 11:19pm

Fishooks12 wrote: »

I didn't see this many being flown in mainland Britain

Ahem. Instead of having a group of islanders refer to themselves jingoistically as "mainland" anything, I propose we change the debate to contextualise the 60 million Europeans in Britain, a comparatively small island off an important continent, by their relationship with "mainland Europe". See how they feel about that. What's sauce for the goose....

Where To · 02-12-2011 11:20pm

I think we should have a flag for the whole of the British Isles so we can end all this Union Flag and Tricolour nonsense.

domkk · 02-12-2011 11:27pm

Chillaxe wrote: »

Surprised there aren't more union jacks in ROI to be honest, considering the support they get on this site.

I have a few on display

gurramok · 02-12-2011 11:27pm

where do i go from here wrote: »

I think we should have a flag for the whole of the British Isles so we can end all this Union Flag and Tricolour nonsense.

Ah here now, you meant Irish Isles didn't you!

donutface · 02-12-2011 11:37pm

Fbjm wrote: »

Do you even know that northern ireland is british? According to your 'logic', if one crackpot american in the ROI wanted all Irish flags taken down and have them replaced with the stars and stripes, they would have to be changed. But then the irish would be offended, so would it have to changed back? And keep going like that? Or perhaps it's 'majority rules', according to your new version of logic.

I suggest you read the thread before jumping to hit the reply button.

kupus · 02-12-2011 11:39pm

I love when the only way the looney left can poke holes in your argument is to criticize your spelling......runs off to place union jack on gpo

Richard · 02-12-2011 11:42pm

Chuck Stone wrote: »

Because it's public property?

No because a tattered rag of flag stuck on to a lampost is no way to respect that flag, and loads of them can be intimidating to others.

Chuck Stone · 02-12-2011 11:42pm

kupus wrote: »

the looney left

Is this folk idiom something that you were taught to say recently?

Cú Giobach · 02-12-2011 11:49pm

hoorsmelt wrote: »

I don't see why the Butcher's Apron should be flown in the North, it is gross and offensive to republicans

They're actually really handy, a great way of knowing what "kind" of area you're in if you don't know the place too well. It makes it easy to know whether to stop for a pint or if you should keep moving, especially if you have an obviously fenian accent.

Keep flying them I say.

Where To · 02-12-2011 11:50pm

The OP must have got awful wet if he saw that many union jacks on his travels.

Dionysus · 03-12-2011 12:07am

where do i go from here wrote: »

The OP must have got awful wet if he saw that many union jacks on his travels.

Yeah, I was going to respond similarly to Kupus. However, I did a brief check before posting and it seems that the idea that the "Union Flag" is the correct name for the flag when it's not on sea is controversial, with many vexillologists saying 'union jack' is the more historically correct name for the flag in all circumstances. Apparently the idea that the flag becomes a 'union jack' only when flown on a warship is a 'relatively recent idea'.

1) The Union Jack or The Union Flag?

2) Union Flag

3) Union recognition

Nodin · 03-12-2011 12:10am

Page 6 and nobodys said 'Butcher's Apron' yet? FFS lads.....

Chuck Stone · 03-12-2011 12:13am

hoorsmelt wrote: »

I don't see why the Butcher's Apron should be flown in the North, it is gross and offensive to republicans and anyone from a country ruled by the Empire. Its only 35 years ago Brit state agents were plantin bombs in Dublin.

FAO. Nodin.

Nodin · 03-12-2011 12:15am

Chuck Stone wrote: »

FAO. Nodin.

Ta.

That's what old age does to ye..can't even read a thread...I'm fucked now...next thing the langer falls off....

Great news to all those up in the North!

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