Potential SHTF scenarios & tinfoil hat thread (Please read post 1)

Tabnabs

High Tide Alert

Tomorrow’s (14/12/2012) high tide is predicted to be extremely high and above Dublin City Council’s Tide Alert levels. Following a meeting of the City Council’s Flooding Assessment Group the following precautionary actions are being taken:

The car parks at Sandymount promenade and at Clontarf are being closed today.
A limited number of large sandbags are being put in place in Clontarf
The flood gates on the River Dodder will be closed tomorrow for the weekend.
The flood defences on the River Tolka are being put in place.
The Liffey Boardwalk defences will be closed on Friday morning.
Spencer Dock Flood gates have been closed.

Dublin City Council maintains a stock of sandbags at various locations for strategic purposes and will be deployed by Drainage staff, if required in both Sandymount and Clontarf.

Khannie

postitnote wrote: »

Video showing asteroid discoveries since 1980. As the video progresses it gets scarier and scarier.

Stick that on full screen and 1080p and it's phenomenal looking.

What you don't get from that is size of the object. It takes an impact of size to actually do any damage. The asteroid needs to be above a certain volume before it will even make it through the earth's atmosphere without burning up.

I did some reading on this a few years back and an extinction level event is incredibly unlikely (i.e. just ingore it really). Ones that might do damage are still unlikely, but more likely. Ones that fizzle out, or hit the sea without enough mass to cause disruption are the most likely (and still unlikely).

Overall: Something we need to keep an eye on, but we've been surviving for yonks without constant observation or knowledge = sure it'll be grand.

Doc Ruby

The big one in this case is going to hit sometime around 600 years from now for sure, assuming nothing changes in the meantime. The smaller one was roughly the same size as the meteor from the Tunguska incident (10 to 15 megatons), if it dropped over a major city we'd be lucky if world war 3 didn't break out, especially if it was in the US.

Rhinocharge

The only one I'm watching is [SIZE=-1](2012 DA14) due to pass extremely close on the 15th feb 2013 at a distance of just under 35k km [SIZE=-1].


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postitnote

So that's passing inside the orbit of all of our Geo Stationary Orbit satellites then? Weather satellites, communication satellites etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_satellites_in_geosynchronous_orbit

Rhinocharge

postitnote wrote: »

So that's passing inside the orbit of all of our Geo Stationary Orbit satellites then? Weather satellites, communication satellites etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_satellites_in_geosynchronous_orbit

Check out
http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/ca/
Click on "Close Approaches"
Scroll to 14th from the bottom.
Date reference: [SIZE=-1]2013-Feb-15
[SIZE=-1]Lunar distance: 0.09

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wolfeye

Japan has accused China of violating its airspace for the first time after a Chinese government plane flew near disputed East China Sea islands.

Looks like this dispute has escalated up another notch.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-20707760

Rhinocharge

Abnormally low winter temperatures in Russia continue to claim more and more lives. Twenty-one people froze to death in only one day; 147 others were hospitalized with frostbite. The cold weather in central Russia is not going to get any warmer soon. On December 19, the cold has reached St. Petersburg, where temperatures fell below -20 degrees Centigrade. It is 30 degrees below zero in the Ivanovo region, -22C in the Kaluga region, and -25 in Tver. In Moscow, for example, the cold snap came on December 15 and will last until next Wednesday, forecasters say. At the weekend, night temperatures will drop to 26 degrees below zero Centigrade.

"The idea that alcohol warms people up from within in freezing weather is wrong. Alcohol only can only mislead people and their defenses - it can make people feel that they are warm. Alcohol is harmful in cold weather. One needs normal hearty food and warm clothing to be safe," Russia's Chief Sanitary Doctor Gennady Onishchenko said. Very cold weather has come to almost the entire territory of Russia last week. Daytime temperatures vary from minus 17-20 in Moscow to minus 50 in Siberia. As usual, the Russians were not prepared to sudden cold. In Novosibirsk, people have to live in cold apartments. Twelve apartment buildings on Nikitin Street were left without heating after a heat pipeline burst. Ecology in Siberian cities worsens considerably because of low temperatures. Many drivers do not shut off engines for the night to be able to use their cars in the morning. As a result, everything is shrouded in dense smog.

A state of emergency occurred in Bashkortostan last week. A heat pipe burst in the center of the capital of Ufa. As many as 155 facilities and more than 9,000 people found themselves in the disaster zone. School classes were canceled. It took specialists nearly 24 hours to eliminate the consequences. Another part of Ufa was left without electricity for nearly 8 hours. Five districts were left without electricity and heat in the Altai region of Russia. Nearly 8,500 people were left to the mercy of fate and extremely low temperatures. In Makhachkala, the snowfall, which began on Saturday night and did not stop until Monday, paralyzed the work of public transport.

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=CE-20121219-37558-RUS

Doc Ruby

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/12/26/bangladesh-slaughters-150000-birds-over-avian-flu/

Bangladesh’s livestock authorities are slaughtering around 150,000 chickens at a giant poultry farm near Dhaka after the worst outbreak of avian flu in five years, officials said Wednesday.
The deadly H5N1 strain of flu was detected at Bay Agro farm at Gazipur, 40 kilometres (25 miles) north of Dhaka, on Monday after dozens of chickens died, prompting the company to send samples to a laboratory for tests.
“There are about 150,000 chickens at the farm. We have already killed and destroyed 120,000 chickens and we will kill the rest today,” livestock department director Mosaddeq Hossain told AFP, adding it was the worst bird flu outbreak in five years.
Bangladesh was hit by bird flu in February 2007, when over one million birds were slaughtered on thousands of farms. Since then the flu has entrenched in the country, seriously ravaging one of the world’s largest poultry industries.
The last major outbreak was in March 2010 when at least 117,000 chickens and 200,000 eggs were destroyed at a farm in northern Bangladesh.
The latest outbreak is the 23rd to be recorded this year. Even before the new mass slaughter, a total of 107,252 chickens had been destroyed in 22 farms, said Ataur Rahman, a livestock control room official.

Rhinocharge

Biological Hazard in Germany on Tuesday, 25 December, 2012

A flock of birds on a farm in northern Germany has been found with sub-clinical low-pathogenic avian influenza (LPAI). The veterinary authority sent an Immediate Notification dated 21 December to the World Organisation for Animal Health (OIE). The report describes the finding of LPAI in a flock of 1,522 birds on a farm in Schleswig-Holstein in northern Germany on 18 December. All the birds have been destroyed. The virus has been identified as an H5 sub-type. The last outbreak of bird flu in the country was in August 2011.

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=BH-20121225-37618-DEU

CBRNE in Syria on Tuesday, 25 December, 2012

[There is absolutely no confirmation!!! RSOE EDIS] Six reported killed and over 60 injured, after opposition forces say poison gas bombs dropped on rebel-held town Homs Sunday, killing six people and injuring dozens more with poison gas. Qatar-based satellite channel Al Jazeera reported 10 people suffered serious injuries from the chemical attack, including blindness and paralysis, and over 50 more suffered other injuries. Opposition activists posted a video online that they claimed shows a victim of the alleged chemical attack suffering from breathing difficulties. The international community has raised concerns that Syria’s large chemical weapons store could be used against the rebels, or fall in opposition hands. Reports have ramped up over recent weeks that embattled Syrian President Bashar Assad has been preparing to use chemicals as the country’s 21-month-old civil war rages on. The US has called the use of chemical weapons a “red line” that may invite international intervention. On Saturday, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said the Syrian government had moved the chemical weapons from many arsenals to just “one or two centers” to properly safeguard them. The attack came on a particularly deadly day for Syria. Near Hama, another rebel stronghold, more than 60 people were killed in an air strike on a bakery. Opposition sources said over 180 people were killed around the country on Sunday.

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=CR-20121225-37616-SYR

Markcheese

Is 150 k birds a huge chicken farm ?? Dozens dieing a day would be pretty routine.. Sounds well run too if they got the carcasses tested ...
Dont panick yet .....

Tabnabs

This came up just before xmas, don't know if it's died out as it's hard to get accurate news that isn't filtered by the Government.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-20821946

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-20822711

Khannie

Saw that alright, but as one of the commentators said - when they're taking big ticket items like flat screen TV's, it's not about hunger.

Tabnabs

Khannie wrote: »

Saw that alright, but as one of the commentators said - when they're taking big ticket items like flat screen TV's, it's not about hunger.

Yeah, but that commentator was the National Security Secretary I believe

Doc Ruby

Isn't there a volcano about to blow its top right next to Argentina at the moment?

Rhinocharge

A new submarine volcanic eruption might have recently started off Turkey's west coast in the Marmaris Sea between the mainland and the Greek Island of Simi near Rhodes. Scientists from Istanbul's Technical University announced that they have found evidence of 2 active vents at about 200 m water depth along a north-south trending fissure of 2.5-3 km length. According to local newspapers, a rise in sea temperature was detected which suggests that lava might be erupting from the vents. According to Prof. Ahmet Ercan, it might take 1-3, or 20 years for the volcano to surface if at all. The area is located at the eastern end of the volcanically active Hellenic Arc and volcanic activity here would not be a huge surprise, in fact. Possibly preceding the eruption, as magma was rising through the crust, the area was affected by a series of seismic swarms during the past months. According to the scientists, a previous submarine eruption already occurred here in 2009.

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=UGE-20130103-37711-TUR

Rhinocharge

Epidemic Hazard in China

A nine-year-old girl has died in hospital after being struck by a mystery illness

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=EH-20130110-37796-CHN

Epidemic Hazard in Pakistan

During a surveillance drive, 800 cases of measles were reported in different parts of Punjab

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=EH-20130109-37772-PAK

Epidemic Hazard in United Kingdom

Around 40 cases of measles have been confirmed in Morecambe and Heysham.

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=EH-20130115-37860-GBR

Epidemic Hazards in the USA

Boston declared a public health emergency Wednesday as the city tried to deal with a harsh flu season and the state reported 18 flu-related deaths so far.

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=EH-20130109-37789-USA

The University of Nebraska-Lincoln Health Center reported three confirmed cases of chicken pox this week - up from an average of one case per year

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=EH-20130111-37816-USA

State health officials say at least 22 people have died from influenza in South Carolina since the fall.

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=EH-20130111-37821-USA

Epidemic Hazard in Mexico

At least five children less than a year old have died in the past few hours and 41 others are suffering severe respiratory infections in a highly marginalized area of the southeastern Mexican state of Chiapas, officials said Saturday.

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=EH-20130106-37745-MEX

Rhinocharge

Biological Hazard in Mexico

Wild dogs killed and mauled four people whose bodies were found over the past two weeks in a park on the edge of Mexico City, authorities confirmed Monday.

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=BH-20130108-37764-MEX

Biological Hazard in USA

Hundreds of thousands of dead fish have been reported this week at Masonboro Island by state environmental officials

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=BH-20130112-37826-USA

Biological Hazard in India

The state government has announced emergency measures to contain a possible outbreak of anthrax among cattle.

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=BH-20130110-37793-IND

Epidemic in USA

With about 20,000 cases of the flu reported in the state so far, Gov. Andrew Cuomo has declared a public health emergency in New York.

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=EP-20130112-37834-USA

Tabnabs

Time to check your winter weather preps as there's most likely snow and freezing conditions on the way over the next week. Car fuelled up, plenty of food in the house, home heating in order etc. etc.

Doc Ruby

Tabnabs wrote: »

Time to check your winter weather preps as there's most likely snow and freezing conditions on the way over the next week. Car fuelled up, plenty of food in the house, home heating in order etc. etc.

Ah now don't get my hopes up.

aaakev

Tabnabs wrote: »

Time to check your winter weather preps as there's most likely snow and freezing conditions on the way over the next week. Car fuelled up, plenty of food in the house, home heating in order etc. etc.

Prepped for this since november!! Also the jeep is loaded up with my gear, boots, jacket, gloves, hat. iv a new tow rope and a couple of shovels in there too, some extra diesel, bit of food and water and the means to heat it! Im plannin on being out alot if this does hit, the craic in 2010 was great....

aaakev

Weekend plans have been made, headin for the hills with the young lad a full tank of diesel and enough supplies for a few days, just incase.... CANT WAIT!!

Neutron_pot

The bare minimum for any survivalist these days are

1. Collins pocketbook - food for free! shows what food you can scavange from fields, ditches, forests., for most climates around the world. Even shows you how to produce your own cooking oil from certain leaves, brilliant!!


2. SAS survival guide pocketbook- Excellent little book for first aid, shelter, weapons, fire and some food too! for example; water can be collectd by tying a tshirt around ones ankle and walking around a field in the morning!the tshirt soaks up dew!!

3. A good sharp knife!


All 3 items guarantees excellent chances for survival!

aaakev

Neutron_pot wrote: »

The bare minimum for any survivalist these days are

1. Collins pocketbook - food for free! shows what food you can scavange from fields, ditches, forests., for most climates around the world. Even shows you how to produce your own cooking oil from certain leaves, brilliant!!


2. SAS survival guide pocketbook- Excellent little book for first aid, shelter, weapons, fire and some food too! for example; water can be collectd by tying a tshirt around ones ankle and walking around a field in the morning!the tshirt soaks up dew!!

3. A good sharp knife!


All 3 items guarantees excellent chances for survival!

Have number 2 and number 3 times 10 at least!! A little knowlege and a good knife will get you a long way..

Must get a copy of that other book you mention

Tabnabs

A very interesting read from the World Economic Forum over where they think the dangers lie ahead for instability etc.

http://www3.weforum.org/docs/WEF_GAC_GlobalAgendaOutlook_2013.pdf

Neutron_pot

For sure my man . . .even if things dont go belly up they still are great books to read on the toilet!!

yeah defo get that first book! Very usefull in ireland due to our temperate woodland climate!

Conmaicne Mara

Doc Ruby wrote: »

Isn't there a volcano about to blow its top right next to Argentina at the moment?

The British will be delighted, with all the noise Argentina is making over The Falklands.

Rhinocharge

Biological Hazard in Brazil on Wednesday, 23 January

Health officials in the southwestern Brazilian state of Mato Grosso do Sul are battling a epidemic-like surge of dengue fever in which some 9,000 cases have been reported from the capital city during the month of January.

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=BH-20130123-37965-BRA

Biological Hazard in Namibia on Monday, 21 January

The Oshikoto Regional Health Directorate is hard at work to trace thousands of people believed to have been exposed to anthrax-infected beef. Two people have already died of the disease and 3 000 are said to be at risk of anthrax infection.

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=BH-20130121-37943-NAM

Biological Hazard in Bangladesh on Wednesday, 16 January

The terrifying hemorrhagic fever known as Ebola virus, or one of its relatives, seems to have made its way into Asia, specifically Bangladesh, a new report indicates.

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=BH-20130116-37891-BGD

Rhinocharge

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Jedi Knight

Doc Ruby wrote: »

I dunno, back in the 60s it was the military industrial complex, jury's still out on that mind you, in the 70s they told us OPEC was going to destroy civilisation, in the 80s the sky was falling through the hole in the ozone layer and the Japanese were going to rule the world, in the 90s global warming and water supplies were in fashion, these days you have a fine buffet to choose from, economic collapse, overpopulation, climate change, terrorism, outsourcing, peak what have you, and so on.

Its all bullshit in my opinion. Thats not to say I'm not going to be prepared in case of emergencies, recent history is replete with examples of people caught short whether its hurricane Katrina or the floods in Dublin or the councils running out of grit for the roads or a nuclear reactor in Japan being hit with the double whammy of a tsunami and an earthquake. And at the end of the day nature has a mean uppercut.

But I'm not about to invest large amounts of time and money planning for the end of the world. I mean gold? Buy a few bricks of tobacco in eastern europe and you'll have a far more valuable trade good at a sliver of the price. You want to protect your wealth? Invest in a pension fund, they dwarf everyone else these days anyway, when you hear the media talking about "the markets", that's really who they are referring to.

We have a few hidings coming our way, medical science is running neck and neck with serious deadly contagion and politically its game up for a few characters who aren't known for going gentle into that good night, but really, look after yourself and yours and you'll be alright.

Still if anyone's interested I'm selling top quality tinfoil hats with inbuilt faraday cages at bargain basement prices.

GREAT post!