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Chronicles of a fish: the days of surf and turf

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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,888 ✭✭✭Dory Dory


    Saturday, April 26th, 2014

    Just a simple 3,000 yard straight swim in the gusty-gusty-oh-so-blustery-gusty wind. :eek: Windy enough things were blowing about on the deck....and I noticed when I was swimming into the wind I had to take one additional stroke than normal, but for some reason the converse was not true for the return with the wind behind me. :confused: And I almost hate to admit this, but the pool is still about 5 or 6 degrees cooler than I like to typically swim in, and I'm sort of liking it. It's actually much more comfortable swimming in once I get going. :o

    Actual swim: 3,000 blustery yards


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,361 ✭✭✭Kurt Godel


    Dory Dory wrote: »
    And I almost hate to admit this, but the pool is still about 5 or 6 degrees cooler than I like to typically swim in, and I'm sort of liking it.

    Upping the swim range, adding to your swim toys, liking colder water... lets hope this running injury doesn't heal too quickly;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,888 ✭✭✭Dory Dory


    Kurt Godel wrote: »
    Upping the swim range, adding to your swim toys, liking colder water... lets hope this running injury doesn't heal too quickly;)

    You know, I just feel like I'm home when I'm in or around water. :) I actually would've done more yardage if I had had the time today...so I'm hoping to have a clean slate tomorrow with some nice weather, then perhaps I can don the Speedo all day!!! If you asked me what my idea of a perfect day is, it'd be by or in the pool (or ocean) with tunes playing, something to read (while not IN the water!), and the sun shining brightly. Company is optional.

    You know what would be fun? Are there any distance relay swimming events? If so, to get a team together and swim one would be a blast. Some homework for you there Kurt! :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 375 ✭✭Pmaldini


    Dory Dory wrote: »
    Super meeting you as well!!!



    Oh, very good to know you found aqua jogging to be of great benefit. I've googled about a half a dozen videos on technique, but if you have any specific suggestions yourself then feel free to share any words of wisdom. I noticed immediately that the body wanted to lean back while jogging, but I had a hunch (from my reading) that I'd want a more upright or slightly forward position. Most of the videos I watched suggested an up and down/piston leg action, but I also found a video demonstrating a cross country technique too - more of a leaning forward and stretched out stride.

    The advice I was given was to keep my back straight and to use the up and down piston action as you mentioned but try imagine you are scraping sh1t (sorry) off your foot, this will keep your feet flat and stop them turning into paddles, if your moving up the pool with ease you are leaning too far forward also try keep your arms close to your side so they are not catching as much water in the running motion, hope this helps a little


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,888 ✭✭✭Dory Dory


    Sunday, April 27th, 2014

    Gorgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous day. OMG, it was gorgeous. :) So, bright and perky Speedo on, and most of the day was spent outdoors by the pool. A little sun, a little music, and a few laps - it just doesn't get any better than this.

    Kept things simple - a 2,000 yard swim that I did breast stroke on every lap number that ended with a 5 or 6 (so, laps 5, 6....15, 16....25, 26...), followed by 1,000 yard pull, and then another 2,000 yard swim incorporating breast stroke as above. Sometimes I feel like I could swim forever. :D

    Actual swim: 5,000 gorgeous yards

    For the first time in about 8 weeks, I can actually stand with my entire weight on my injured leg without pain (as long as I am still). This is significant, I believe. I go to the PT tomorrow, so fingers crossed I have turned a corner and that with a little professional help I will back in the running and cycling business in no time. Unfortunately, Eagleman is now less than 6 weeks away and I have already lost 3 weeks of run and bike training. As long as I am fully healed and healthy I will be on the start line, however I will probably have to pivot from competing competitively to gaining experience. So it goes.....


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,888 ✭✭✭Dory Dory


    So my brother just likened my use of the aqua jogging belt to the trimnastics classes that were held at our neighborhood pool in the summer for all those older and quite sedentary (not to mention typically cellulite laden, pasty white and donning a bathing suit with the cup that was perfectly formed in a stiff point) hausfraus. :( After all those years of successfully blocking out that disturbing image, in one sentence my brother has managed to bring it all back, including the flowery and frilly 3 dimensional bathing caps they sported. :mad:


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,957 ✭✭✭interested


    A few minor things:

    a) ^^ things that make me wish I could elect to un-read something
    b) aqua jogging ? how deep is your pool and how tall are you again ? :pac:
    c) Based on the 'first time in 8 weeks I can stand on ...' that PT visit couldnt come quicker and mind doing too much breastroke kick with an injury to a leg


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,830 ✭✭✭catweazle


    Dory Dory wrote: »
    Unfortunately, Eagleman is now less than 6 weeks away and I have already lost 3 weeks of run and bike training. As long as I am fully healed and healthy I will be on the start line, however I will probably have to pivot from competing competitively to gaining experience. So it goes.....

    The Lost Sheep Triathlon Kenmare 2014
    The “Lost Sheep” Middle Distance Triathlon will again be a National Series Race as well as being the Irish National Middle Distance Championships 2014
    Lost Sheep taking place on Saturday August 30th 2014
    Information on registration will be posted on the CTC website in the coming weeks
    2013 prize fund:
    Overall 1st 1000 Overall 2nd 700 Overall 3rd 500 Age group – as per TI guidance Age Group 1st Place 100 Age Group 2nd Place 60 Age Group 3rd Place 40


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,888 ✭✭✭Dory Dory


    interested wrote: »
    A few minor things:

    a) ^^ things that make me wish I could elect to un-read something
    b) aqua jogging ? how deep is your pool and how tall are you again ? :pac:
    c) Based on the 'first time in 8 weeks I can stand on ...' that PT visit couldnt come quicker and mind doing too much breastroke kick with an injury to a leg

    a) You should have been a young kid witnessing that in person!!! :eek:
    b) That's rhetorical. ;)
    c) I hate it when you're right! :o

    catweazle wrote: »
    The Lost Sheep Triathlon Kenmare 2014
    The “Lost Sheep” Middle Distance Triathlon will again be a National Series Race as well as being the Irish National Middle Distance Championships 2014
    Lost Sheep taking place on Saturday August 30th 2014
    Information on registration will be posted on the CTC website in the coming weeks
    2013 prize fund:
    Overall 1st 1000 Overall 2nd 700 Overall 3rd 500 Age group – as per TI guidance Age Group 1st Place 100 Age Group 2nd Place 60 Age Group 3rd Place 40

    Sounds like a baa-baa-blast. ;) But I refuse to drive in your fine country with its crazy arsed drivers and ridiculously narrow roads, so I'll need a driver, place to stay, and a personal escort. :D


  • Subscribers Posts: 19,425 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    Dory Dory wrote: »
    a) You should have been a young kid witnessing that in person!!! :eek:
    b) That's rhetorical. ;)
    c) I hate it when you're right! :o




    Sounds like a baa-baa-blast. ;) But I refuse to drive in your fine country with its crazy arsed drivers and ridiculously narrow roads, so I'll need a driver, place to stay, and a personal escort. :D
    Done, done, and done. I am a crazy arsed driver tho, from the 'ah fcuk it' school of driving.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,888 ✭✭✭Dory Dory


    Oryx wrote: »
    Done, done, and done. I am a crazy arsed driver tho, from the 'ah fcuk it' school of driving.

    Two things pop into my mind:

    1) I should have stipulated tall, dark, and handsome...

    ...and/or...

    2) Be careful what you wish for.

    ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,888 ✭✭✭Dory Dory


    Monday, April 28th, 2014

    Swim.
    Swim, swim.
    Swim, swim, swimmy swim.
    There's going to be a lot of swimming going on over here for the next little while.

    Nothing fancy tonight, yet again, but oh-so enjoyable.....and there is no doubt that I've got the feel of the water like I never left it for the winter. Thoroughly enjoying my time in the pool....and I really wonder just how long I could swim without tiring as tonight was another night that I felt I could have gone on forever. 4,000 yards incorporating breast stoke like I did yesterday - I was careful with my kick, and I was careful pushing off the wall. Raining....cold outside....and steam was coming off the surface of the pool giving the evening an eerie feeling. Love it. :)

    Actual swim: 4,000 steamy yards

    Injury update: Went to PT today and there is hip flexor and IT band involvement with my injury. :( Not great news. I was told that it would probably take rest to cure me...and for the moment the only things I can safely do are swim, yoga, and foam roll. Baby steps. I have to heal completely, for anything less is honestly unacceptable.


  • Subscribers Posts: 19,425 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    Dory Dory wrote: »
    Two things pop into my mind:

    1) I should have stipulated tall, dark, and handsome...

    ...and/or...

    2) Be careful what you wish for.

    ;)
    1)Plenty of tall dark handsome male triathletes in Cork....

    2) I promise not to kill any wildlife this time.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,766 Mod ✭✭✭✭mossym


    entries for Lost sheep open in the morning:) 8am irish time.

    can imagine the resting advice for the leg is tough to take. injuries suck big time. I'm sure our common friend is giving you good advice re the injury though, he's pretty good about keeping me from tearing back into training after niggles


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,888 ✭✭✭Dory Dory


    mossym wrote: »
    can imagine the resting advice for the leg is tough to take. injuries suck big time. I'm sure our common friend is giving you good advice re the injury though, he's pretty good about keeping me from tearing back into training after niggles

    Actually, I have found him to be a relatively quiet person....which makes me wonder if he's intimidated by me or just naturally shy around woman. ;)


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,766 Mod ✭✭✭✭mossym


    Dory Dory wrote: »
    Actually, I have found him to be a relatively quiet person....which makes me wonder if he's intimidated by me or just naturally shy around woman. ;)

    find that means when advice comes you should take more heed..:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,888 ✭✭✭Dory Dory


    Tuesday, April 29th, 2014

    Another PT session today for the injury. I didn't really do my research when I chose this therapy group, instead I went on the recommendation of a friend (whose husband is a physician) as I was heading home from Boston and was quite desperate to make the pain stop so I could quickly resume my street habit of training. Well, because I didn't do my homework, I had no idea that their approach is pretty much holisitic (nothing wrong with that, I just wasn't expecting it) and it's more about them laying their hands on me (all over me...seeking out organs and regions to cure what ailes me) rather than making me do exercises. In other words, I'm pretty much practically falling asleep on a bed relaxing for an hour. Again, just not what I expected. :confused: Will I continue on? Not sure. From what the PT told me (and from what I've read), it's really mainly about rest....and now that I have a diagnosis, a beginning plan has already been formulated by ecoli to assist with my full recovery. :)

    And speaking of recovery...and training - tonight was nasty, nasty, nasty out and I made the executive decision to spend the evening doing yoga (2 sessions), stretching (as directed to me by ecoli), and foam rolling. No swimming - the pool was too cold for my liking. I probably spent about 90 minutes doing all of this, and it was a nice change. I'm a firm believer that when a door shuts a window opens, so I will try and learn, explore and dabble in things I don't normally do during this time of healing with the hope that I will be stronger and faster when it's all said and done. Yoga - I am definitely getting so much better at the moves, and I am understanding that it's all about deliberate and precise movement with proper body position, and it's not about momentum at all. I can't help but think how beneficial yoga must be for dancers. Most of the stretches I was given to do are covered in yoga, but there was one that was new to me that had a lot going on with it (that I liked!) that I will share with you here -
    http://www.doyogawithme.com/content/tensor-fascia-latae-tfl-stretch

    Tomorrow is supposed to be another nasty day, so the jury is out if I'll swim or spend another evening on the yoga mat. But the good news is, after tomorrow, relatively nice weather should be around through the weekend. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,888 ✭✭✭Dory Dory


    Wednesday, April 30th, 2014

    Decided to make it another night of indoor activities on the mat....and I ventured outside my normal yoga routines and did two new sessions - one for hips, legs and lower back...and the other for core. Yikes! Some really good moves I've never done before....but boy howdy were some of the moves way above my ability. :eek: And I had to be very careful of my injury, and I modified a few things to protect it. All told, another good 90 minutes of work tonight. Tomorrow, I swim! :)

    And on that note...farewell month of April. You were my lowest month of training in years....you were a struggle to get through....but I learned some valuable lessons because of you. However, don't let the door hit you on your @ss on the way out. ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,888 ✭✭✭Dory Dory


    Thursday, May 1st, 2014

    Finally!! A day worthy of a swim in the pool - whoop whoop! :D

    I've been off the ibuprofen since before Boston (I took myself off of it as I was popping it like candy to try and keep me comfortable :o), but this morning was a little rough and I was tired of dealing with it, so it was an ibuprofen morning. :( The funny thing with this injury is, it is constantly changing. At times it feels "nearly" healed....and at times it feels like it's making no progress. And even the location of the pain changes - inner thigh, quads, outer thigh, knee. But because I had taken ibuprofen this morning, I was mindful to not be fooled by the lack of pain tonight when pushing off the wall or kicking - I kept those tasks easy.

    2,000 yards free with some breast stroke thrown in
    200 each pull, kick, pull, kick
    400 pull
    200 each kick, pull, kick, pull
    1,000 yards free with some breast stroke thrown in

    Nice swim....kept things even and controlled.

    Actual swim: 5,000 yards


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,888 ✭✭✭Dory Dory


    Friday, May 2nd, 2014

    A sneaky lunchtime swim. :eek::D !!!!

    Had to be efficient with this one...so just swimming, no toys. And I pulled out the pace clock so I could keep track of time so I wouldn't be too late getting back to work...and it was also a good opportunity for me to see where I am pace wise while swimming in my "happy-zone".

    Did this entire swim using my method of incorporating breast stroke on the 5s and 6s (lap 5, 6...15, 16....25, 26...)....and did this with approximately a 30 second break in between the first 2,000 yards and the following 1,000 yards. Nice and easy at an even pace....first 2,000 in on ~31/32 minutes....next 1,000 in on ~16 minutes....for a total elapsed time of 48 minutes for 3,000 yards, including the break and some quickie goggle adjustments. For those scurrying to their calculators to compute my pace (hello Kurt ;)), when converted to meters, that works out to ~1:45/100. Happy with this for now all things considered. :)

    Actual swim: 3,000 sneaky lunchtime yards


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,361 ✭✭✭Kurt Godel


    No calculator needed here... Dorypace=unobtainable in my book. Nice "easy" pace there.

    Can I ask, everyone else of we Tri splashers says they need to constantly work on form or technique, or we go backwards. You don't seem to do much form work, or drills, (or even anything but long steady swims). Is there a place for any of that in your routine, or has it been seared forever on your brain and so is less needed?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,888 ✭✭✭Dory Dory


    Kurt Godel wrote: »
    No calculator needed here... Dorypace=unobtainable in my book. Nice "easy" pace there.

    Can I ask, everyone else of we Tri splashers says they need to constantly work on form or technique, or we go backwards. You don't seem to do much form work, or drills, (or even anything but long steady swims). Is there a place for any of that in your routine, or has it been seared forever on your brain and so is less needed?

    First, don't underestimate what is obtainable... ;)

    Second, I've been wondering when form/technique/drills would be queried. No, I honestly do not do drills. Yes, as a young swimmer I did plenty of drills...and yes, there is great value in drills. Why don't I do drills? I would imagine interested would disagree with this :D, but I don't feel I need to do any. (Wow, that just sounds so wrong. :o) Keep in mind, my swimming evolution has a lot more mileage in it than most (if not all) of you here in the tri forum. That doesn't mean my stroke is perfect, it just means that other than a few little issues (for example, my biggest issue in my stroke is probably the placement of my hand entry - hands enter a little too far center - so I pay attention to that when I swim and continue to work on correcting that), I'm happy with my form and technique for me. At this point, my form is part of my personality, nearly fully evolved. ;)

    Now, as far as swimming slow and steady, that will change in the near future. I do feel there is great value in slow/steady, short/fast, and everything in between to bring your times down and improve. But while I am nursing this very, very annoying injury that is really starting to piss me off and make me go mad and wonder if I'll ever run or ride my bike ever, ever, ever again ("cry on the inside like a winner") I am afraid to do anything short or fast that might employ a hard kick and potentially aggravate this injury that I am so totally and completely friggin' done with. <exhale....>. ;):)


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,888 ✭✭✭Dory Dory


    Saturday, May 3rd, 2014

    This was all about the distance. I figure if I can't go for a 3 hour run, then the least I can do is go for a 6,000 yard swim. :D Did this nice and easy with breast stroke on the 5s and 6s.....and took a little break in between each 2,000 to lay on the toasty warm brick deck to catch a few rays. Lovely swim....and it was amazing to feel the sun beating down on my back, shoulders and legs while I was swimming (so reminiscent of my younger days swimming outdoor long course in the summer), which then translated into some nice bright and perky Speedo tan lines. :) I am SOOO okay with that! And I couldn't help but think as I was swimming all comfy cozy in my aqua paradise with the sun penetrating from above, how incredible it would be to swim in a chain of tropical islands...landing on beach after beach to take a little rest before heading out to the next one that was just out in the distance. <sigh.......purr> ;):)

    Actual swim: 6,000 paradise like yards

    Hit the yoga mat in the early evening. I started a Vinyasa yoga class, but after 30+ minutes, my shoulders had had enough (I think the 6,000 yard swim was in them!), so I switched it out to my Injury Prevention class. Much better....and I checked a few required stretching boxes I've been given as homework with that session, and the other stretching boxes got checked after yoga. And then there was lots of foam rolling after that. Woo hoo. !!! So, just over an hour of yoga, stretching and foam rolling. Leg is a bit more comfortable today. Thank god. I really, really, really hope I can maybe do a little running and/or cycling next weekend. Fingers and toes crossed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,235 ✭✭✭Solobally8


    Fingers and toes crossed here for u too Dory


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,888 ✭✭✭Dory Dory


    Sunday, May 4th, 2014

    Yesterday's swim was for the 3 hour run I can't do at the moment, and today's swim was for the 3 hour bike ride I can't do at the moment. Take that, annoying injury!!! Did this pretty much like I did yesterday, but with the added element of deck items (think chairs, cushions, a pull buoy and a pace clock :eek:) rocketing about in the insane wind. I was seriously wondering if something might come flying at me and knock me in the head while I was swimming....but the only thing that made its way into the pool with me was the pull buoy. Whew. ;)

    Actual swim: 6,000 crazy-blustery yards

    It was too pretty a night to be doing yoga indoors, so I dragged the yoga mat and iPad out in the grass by the pool and braved the wind for this one. Lovely. Really, really lovely to do my downward and upward facing dogs, planks, pigeon poses, chaturanga dandasanas, and twists and stretches in the evening light. This will be a staple for me this summer. :) Oh, and I did plenty of foam rolling too!


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,888 ✭✭✭Dory Dory


    Monday, May 5th, 2014

    Sneaky lunchtime swim done quickie and streamlined. Lovely.

    Actual swim: 2,000 sneaky-lovely yards

    Evening yucky swim in the cold and drizzly rain. I had originally planned on doing the 200s as 3 x 200, 2 x 200, 1 x 200 with 400 easy between the sets, but I was not feeling any joy and basically said to hell with it after the 2 x 200 (even with a generous recovery between the 200s) and did some hypoxic work instead. I suppose I'll find the love again for the shorter, faster stuff as I re-dabble in it again (not to mention how to properly pace them!), but for tonight I had had enough.

    400 yards easy
    3 x 200 yards off 3:30 (2:40, 2:37, 2:32)
    400 yards easy
    2 x 200 yards off 3:30 (2:34, 2:35)
    400 yards easy
    10 x (20 yards hypoxic, 20 yards easy)
    400 yards easy

    Actual swim: 3,000 yucky yards


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 8,766 Mod ✭✭✭✭mossym


    that's some impressive yardage you're swimming there Dry, well done!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,387 ✭✭✭✭Green&Red


    Are you sick of the holistic approach yet?

    Serious swim miles


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,888 ✭✭✭Dory Dory


    Green&Red wrote: »
    Are you sick of the holistic approach yet?

    Serious swim miles

    Hey there. :)
    Yes, actually I am....and just yesterday I cancelled the rest of my booked appointments with the PT. I do believe there is a place for holistic medicine (so please, I am not knocking that), but I just didn't see any real gains in what was being done to me. I honestly think rest, yoga, proper stretching and plenty of foam rolling is the cure for my hip flexor/IT band injuries. Fingers crossed, but in the hour I've been up getting ready for work, this may be my best morning yet regarding pain. Woo hoo!!! :)

    And thanks about the swim mileage. I'm pouring myself into the pool at the moment to stave off self pity. ;)


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  • Subscribers Posts: 19,425 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    Dory Dory wrote: »
    ...to stave off self pity. ;)
    Well done on not letting an ounce of self pity seep in here, anyway. You're hiding it well, if it is there at all.


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