Ireland u20 6 Nations & World Cup 2012

CIARAN_BOYLE

.ak wrote: »

Agreed. Any idea if its going to be televised, or maybe streamed? Can't find anything on IRFU's website regarding coverage.

web only here
http://www.rte.ie/sport/rugby/sixnations/live.html

.ak

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

web only here
http://www.rte.ie/sport/rugby/sixnations/live.html

Muchas gracias senor.

profitius

Just looking and comparing the previous U20 squads with this seasons squad. Anybody know players who didn't make those squads but who are playing for their provinces nowadays?


2011-2012
JORDAN COGHLAN
SAM COGHLAN MURRAY
JACK CONAN
AARON CONNEELY
BARRY DALY
CHRIS FARRELL
CONOR GILSENAN
JJ HANRAHAN
IAIN HENDERSON
PADDY JACKSON
SHANE LAYDEN
KIERAN MARMION
CATHAL MARSH
KYLE MCCALL
LUKE MCGRATH
DANIEL QUALTER
JAMES RAEL

2010-2011
NIALL ANNETT
FINLAY BEALHAM
ANDREW BOYLE
SHANE BUCKLEY
CONOR CAREY
SAM COGHLAN MURRAY
AARON CONNEELY
ANDREW CONWAY
DAVID DOYLE
PETER DU TOIT
TADHG FURLONG
DOMINIC GALLAGHER
CRAIG GILROY
JJ HANRAHAN
DAVID HEFFERNAN
IAIN HENDERSON
PADDY JACKSON
MICK KEARNEY
ALEX KELLY
BRENDAN MACKEN
KIERAN MARMION
CATHAL MARSH
LUKE MARSHALL
NAT MCDONALD
BLANE MCILROY
EOIN MCKEON
JAMES MCKINNEY
MARTIN MOORE
JOHNNY MURPHY
JORDI MURPHY
TIERNAN O'HALLORAN
DAVID O'MAHONY
DANIEL QUALTER
MICHAEL SHERLOCK
JAMES TRACY

2009-2010
NIALL ANNETT
DENIS BUCKLEY
PADDY BUTLER
BRIAN CAGNEY
ANDREW CONWAY
JOHN COONEY
DAVID DOYLE
EOIN GRIFFIN
BRIAN HAYES
MICHAEL HEANEY
DARREN HUDSON
BRENDAN MACKEN
STEWART MAGUIRE
BEN MARSHALL
JAMES MCKINNEY
DAVID MCSHARRY
JORDI MURPHY
DAVE O'CALLAGHAN
JACK O'CONNELL
TIERNAN O'HALLORAN
BRIAN O'HARA
NOEL REID
RHYS RUDDOCK
DOMINIC RYAN
NEVIN SPENCE
SIMON ZEBO

2008 - 2009
ANDREW BURKE
MARK FLANAGAN
GARY FOLEY
SHANE GAHAN
MATTHEW HEALY
DAVE KEARNEY
MICHAEL KEATING
ADAM MACKLIN
IAN MADIGAN
PADDY MCALLISTER
JACK MCGRATH
DAVID MCGREGOR
IAN MCKINLEY
CONOR MURRAY
MICHAEL NOONE
DAVE O'CALLAGHAN
JACK O'CONNELL
BRIAN O'HARA
PETER O'MAHONY
RONAN O'MAHONY
CIARAN RUDDOCK
RHYS RUDDOCK
DOMINIC RYAN
TOM SEXTON
EAMONN SHERIDAN
NEVIN SPENCE

2007-2008
PADDY BROPHY
BRIAN CAWLEY
CONOR CLEARY
ADAM CRAIG
SCOTT DEASY
STEPHEN DOUGLAS
KIERAN ESSEX
DAVE FOLEY
ALAN GAUGHAN
KRIS GREENE
JASON HARRIS-WRIGHT
PAUL KARAYIANNIS
MURRAY KINSELLA
IAN LEONARD
PATRICK MALLON
HARRY MCALEESE
PADDY MCCABE
NIALL MORRIS
IAN NAGLE
MATTHEW NELSON
EOIN O'MALLEY
RAJAN REILLY
PAUL RYAN
TOMMY SEYMOUR
MIKE SHERRY
JAMIE SMITH

2006-2007
TJ ANDERSON
ANDREW BROWNE
JAMIE HAGAN
FELIX JONES
IAN KEATLEY
NEILUS KEOGH
CONOR MCINERNEY
DAVID MILLARD
SHANE MONAHAN
RUAIDHRI MURPHY
SEAN O'BRIEN
NIALL O'CONNOR
TOMMY O'DONNELL
PAUL O'DONOHOE
KEVIN SHEAHAN
GER SLATTERY
RICHARD SWEENEY
KYLE TONETTI
AIDAN WYNNE

2005-2006
?

Hagz

Team to play Italy
1. McCall
2. Scannell
3. Reilly
4. Beirne
5. Henderson
6. Coghlan
7. Gilsenan
8. Conan
9. Marmion
10. Jackson
11. Horan
12. Hanrahan
13. Farrell
14. Finn
15. Layden

16. Rael
17. Merrey
18. Cawley
19. Qualter
20. Conneely
21. McGrath
22. Marsh
23. Olding

Strange having two 10's on the bench.

boynesider

Yeah and two on the field.

Conneely, Qualter and McGrath either dropped or rotated depending on your point of view. I would say that Coghlan and Marmion will bring greater physicality which is maybe a response to the threat that the Italians will pose.

Lets hope JJ is kicking from the start. He is the better place kicker and Jackson might play better without having his confidence drained by missing kicks.

GerM

Interesting changes. Thought they'd have gone for Coughlan at 8 and Conan at 6 if they were to accommodate them both in the side. Powerful back row all the same. Gilsenan can comfortably fill the role at openside. Ruddock possibly trying out a new combination against the Italians and using the game to get some game time for the younger members of the squad.

muscleshirt

slightly off topic,,,anyone know what happened to the colleges/universities international matches usually on around six nations??

shuffol

Would've liked to have seen Marsh get a run out at 10, all Leinster backrow bodes well for the future, its an area Leinster will definately have a continuing surplus over the coming years, not many Ulster backrowers coming through but plenty of centers and halfbacks.

I think Olding being on the bench points to a lack of depth in the back 3 this year, particularly with Nelson, Sherlock and now Coughlan-Murray out injured.

Hagz

Hopefully if Olding comes on it's at 10. He's probably the front-runner for the 10 spot next year, alongside Holland.

Interesting to see the confidence of Ruddock -"We achieved victory in our last two games because we have outworked the opposition and expect the same this week along with a quality display of skills."

That tells me that he's encouraged the guys to go out there and really throw the ball around. I'm looking forward to seeing Gilsenan at openside to see his breakdown skills as well.

ormond lad

muscleshirt wrote: »

slightly off topic,,,anyone know what happened to the colleges/universities international matches usually on around six nations??

dont know, best check the irish colleges website for updates
http://www.studentrugby.com/main/index.php

muscleshirt

ormond lad wrote: »

dont know, best check the irish colleges website for updates
http://www.studentrugby.com/main/index.php[/QUOTE]
site is not updated,cusai have taken over the running of colleges rugby

shuffol

Are Gilsenan and Coughlan eligible for the u-20s next season? I assumed they were as I thought they were only out of school but looking at their profiles they were both born in 92, would this rule them out next season?

boynesider

Yes they would have to be born in 93. Gilsenan could be making an impression for Leinster by then anyway as a 7. Very light still but he has incredible potential.

Real FM

Slightly off topic. Always interested to see how many players in a under 20 squad follow through and maintain a playing level at a provincial/international standard. Not sure what's happened to a few lads the 2006. Can anyone help me out?

2006-2007
NEILUS KEOGH
DAVID MILLARD
RICHARD SWEENEY

Cheers

CIARAN_BOYLE

Real FM wrote: »

Slightly off topic. Always interested to see how many players in a under 20 squad follow through and maintain a playing level at a provincial/international standard. Not sure what's happened to a few lads the 2006. Can anyone help me out?

2006-2007
NEILUS KEOGH
DAVID MILLARD
RICHARD SWEENEY

Cheers

Keogh is non contracted Leinster player, possibly on a training contract of some sort but not part of the squad on leinsterrugby.ie. He has played for the province in the B&I cup four or five times this season.

Sweeney is playing for Marys at the moment in the AIL
http://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/smyth-praises-st-marys-pack-3003365.html

Millard is with Esher in the championship over in England

bamboozle

profitius wrote: »

Just looking and comparing the previous U20 squads with this seasons squad. Anybody know players who didn't make those squads but who are playing for their provinces nowadays?


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Collie O'Shea didnt make the U20 world cup squad last year and started for Leinster against Treviso this season.

Hagz

Real FM wrote: »

Slightly off topic. Always interested to see how many players in a under 20 squad follow through and maintain a playing level at a provincial/international standard. Not sure what's happened to a few lads the 2006. Can anyone help me out?

2006-2007
NEILUS KEOGH
DAVID MILLARD
RICHARD SWEENEY

Cheers

I know Keogh is playing with Landsdowne and has been getting regular game-time with Leinster A.

GerM

boynesider wrote: »

Yes they would have to be born in 93. Gilsenan could be making an impression for Leinster by then anyway as a 7. Very light still but he has incredible potential.

He's over 15 stone and doesn't turn 20 until autumn. He's perfectly placed to develop physically I think. Another year or two will see another stone of muscle gradually put on him and that will be more than enough. He isn't found wanting at all physically already. If he bulked up much more at the moment, it would affect him negatively.

irishbucsfan

GerM wrote: »

boynesider wrote: »

Yes they would have to be born in 93. Gilsenan could be making an impression for Leinster by then anyway as a 7. Very light still but he has incredible potential.

He's over 15 stone and doesn't turn 20 until autumn. He's perfectly placed to develop physically I think. Another year or two will see another stone of muscle gradually put on him and that will be more than enough. He isn't found wanting at all physically already. If he bulked up much more at the moment, it would affect him negatively.

Not if he did it right, look at Pocock

GerM

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Not if he did it right, look at Pocock

In fairness, Pocock doesn't fall into the category of a normal player; he's a complete anomaly. He was breaking the weightlifting records at the Force when he was 18 and would have been playing in their back row at 17 except for rules which prevented him from doing so. He was heavier than Gilsenan was when he was 18. All said and done, Pocock is still only about a stone heavier than he was when he first broke through.

Hagz

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Not if he did it right, look at Pocock

I remember a coach involved with the Australian u20 said that when he first encountered Pocock he was immediately struck by the sheer bulk of him. I think he's been a monster since before he went professional.

irishbucsfan

GerM wrote: »

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Not if he did it right, look at Pocock

In fairness, Pocock doesn't fall into the category of a normal player; he's a complete anomaly. He was breaking the weightlifting records at the Force when he was 18 and would have been playing in their back row at 17 except for rules which prevented him from doing so. He was heavier than Gilsenan was when he was 18. All said and done, Pocock is still only about a stone heavier than he was when he first broke through.

Ah yeah that's fair enough. I do think Gilsenan needs to hit the weights big time though. Im not saying its a weakness of his, rather something that he should be developing as a strength. It's the most important part of breakdown play as well.

Morf

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Ah yeah that's fair enough. I do think Gilsenan needs to hit the weights big time though. Im not saying its a weakness of his, rather something that he should be developing as a strength. It's the most important part of breakdown play as well.

Not everyone can be a pair of walking biceps like Pocock and still be a fantastic rugby player. Gotta work with the physical attributes of each player not try to force each player into an already successful mould.

bamboozle

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Ah yeah that's fair enough. I do think Gilsenan needs to hit the weights big time though. Im not saying its a weakness of his, rather something that he should be developing as a strength. It's the most important part of breakdown play as well.

all in good time, as Matt Williams recently put it 'too many players are built like tarzan but have jane's skillset'

shuffol

Planning heading over to Athlone to the game tonight, anybody know what Dubarry Park is like for parking?

JustinDee

shuffol wrote: »

Planning over to Athlone to the game tonight, anybody know what Dubarry Park is like for parking?

Good parking but you must get there in plenty of time. Don't leave it til late.

leonard7

what time is kick off for this match ? cause i need to go through the whole rigmarole of changing my IP Address to an irish one in order to watch it and wanna leave myself plenty of time

amtw

leonard7 wrote: »

what time is kick off for this match ? cause i need to go through the whole rigmarole of changing my IP Address to an irish one in order to watch it and wanna leave myself plenty of time

Kick Off 7.05pm

leonard7

leonard7 wrote: »

what time is kick off for this match ? cause i need to go through the whole rigmarole of changing my IP Address to an irish one in order to watch it and wanna leave myself plenty of time

if you could tell me how you do that, I'd be very appreciative..

leonard7

i've done it before but ill have to get my flat mate to explain it again before i tell you just so i get it right...ill let you know when i do