Racism - Mod Note on 1st Post - Read before posting.

Paully D

Dalglish - ''Anyone who doesn't support Suarez can leave''

So, the whole club isn't exactly behind him then, they're being forced to :rolleyes:

Leiva

cournioni wrote: »

Keep this one on topic.

Are you seriously for real ??

You make a slimy comment about "never our fault" or some crap like that .
Explain it as been about two incidents unrelated to the topic on this thread , and then turn around and tell people to keep things on topic ?


I'm telling you a psychologist would have a field day on this thread .

kryogen

rarnes1 wrote: »

kryogen wrote: »

So you think its beyong the realms of possibilty that this is a nice umbrella for kenny regarding his managerial skills being questioned?

Thats deluded.

Could be wrong but there is no way its beyond possibility

Yeah, Kenny's thinking of himself and his job. he designed the statement to deflect everyone's attention away from Liverpool's performances. Except yours of course...

I think we know who's deluded here

yes, for me its a theory, for you its completely impossible... Very clear who is drinking the special kool aid

gerryo777

How does one become a moderator on boards.ie?
I would have thought one would have to be impartial to assume such a position.
Can't see much point in being on here if I'm going to be censored.

I await my ban!

DOC09UNAM

Suarez probably isn't racist but supporting the use of a racial slur makes you all racist.

Handsome Bob

Le King wrote: »

Racists aren't generally liked in our 21st century world.

Good thing he's not a racist so

It is key to note that Patrice Evra himself in his written statement in this case said 'I don't think that Luis Suarez is racist'

cournioni

mixednuts wrote: »

Are you seriously for real ??

You make a slimy comment about "never our fault" or some crap like that .
Explain it as been about two incidents unrelated to the topic on this thread , and then turn around and tell people to keep things on topic ?


I'm telling you a psychologist would have a field day on this thread .

I have explained them enough on other threads so go do a little bit of field research like a good lad.

The problem is that Liverpool never show any accountability for their actions. Even when proven guilty, they have shown utter disrespect for the decision and the people that are affected by the decision. Classless and disgusting.

FatherTed

Liverpool players' statement

All of us support the club's commitment to fighting racism. All of us accept there is no place in the game for any form of discrimination. As a group of players we totally support the Kick it Out Campaign.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/dec/21/luis-suarez-criminal-investigation-abuse

That's nice. So they support this then:

“The FA has shown leadership and intent through what has clearly been a difficult and complex complaint to deal with, and invested time and expertise to ensure this outcome.

"It has demonstrated that it will not stand for discrimination, something organisations such as FIFA and UEFA should take heed of.

“Kick It Out will continue to work with clubs and players, at professional and grass roots level, offering education on what is deemed offensive and unacceptable behaviour."

http://www.kickitout.org/news.php/news_id/5328

gerryo777

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

Suarez probably isn't racist but supporting the use of a racial slur makes you all racist.

The word 'nigreto' is not a racial slur. Check your facts.

Will I Amnt

gerryo777 wrote: »

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

Suarez probably isn't racist but supporting the use of a racial slur makes you all racist.

The word 'nigreto' is not a racial slur. Check your facts.

Check your own facts for **** sake,how many times does it have to be said that it can be offensive or friendly depending on the context.

menoscemo

gerryo777 wrote: »

The word 'nigreto' is not a racial slur. Check your facts.

It can be in certain contexts. Check your facts.

Leiva

cambo2008 wrote: »

Check your own facts for **** sake,how many times does it have to be said that it can be offensive or friendly depending on the context.

And what proven context are we talking about now ?

gerryo777

mixednuts wrote: »

And what proven context are we talking about now ?

The context of a gang of united fans trying to take the moral high ground. Laughable.

efb

Eva to me seems like the worlds greatest WUM.

He's great at taunting others, anyone says boo to him he's running off to teacher

gerryo777

efb wrote: »

Eva to me seems like the worlds greatest WUM.

He's great at taunting others, anyone says boo to him he's running off to teacher

Most French people think he's a d***head.

Will I Amnt

mixednuts wrote: »

cambo2008 wrote: »

Check your own facts for **** sake,how many times does it have to be said that it can be offensive or friendly depending on the context.

And what proven context are we talking about now ?

You're not new to this thread so I'm sure you know by now that it can be used offensively :rolleyes:

gerryo777

menoscemo wrote: »

It can be in certain contexts. Check your facts.

Where he's from it's not!

Warper

It is really sad to see Liverpool FC and Chelsea FC fully 100% support their players. Suarez has been found guilty of racism and Terry is being criminally charged yet it seems that these 2 clubs don't give a fcuk about their players being racist. Last night's show by the Liverpool team was disgusting as was AVB's comments re Terry.

These 2 clubs are disgraceful supporting their racist players as if there is nothing wrong with it. The supporters of these clubs are just as bad trying to defend the indefensible. Really highlights people with racist tendencies - anyone supporting this sort of thing should be ashamed of themselves.

menoscemo

gerryo777 wrote: »

Where he's from it's not!

Wise up mate. i know where he's from, I've been there and I speak the language. If you call a black man you don't know 'negrito' in an argument in Uruguay it is offensive.

kryogen

kryogen wrote: »

yes, for me its a theory, for you its completely impossible... Very clear who is drinking the special kool aid

It sure is

Will I Amnt

gerryo777 wrote: »

Most French people think he's a d***head.

Wow,did you do the poll yourself????

Guy:Incognito

Warper wrote: »

It is really sad to see Liverpool FC and Chelsea FC fully 100% support their players. Suarez has been found guilty of racism and Terry is being criminally charged yet it seems that these 2 clubs don't give a fcuk about their players being racist. Last night's show by the Liverpool team was disgusting as was AVB's comments re Terry..

If your brother was arrested and convicted of assault, but he claims he's innocent and you believe him, would you condemn him to everyone even though you think he did nothing wrong and the courts were wrong?

A big opposition that comes up on capital punishment threads is the possiblility of wrongfull convictions. Are the FA infallible?

It's funny how everyone that are condemning Suarez and Liverpool are so sure the FA are right. How many threads have there been on a wide range of topics to do with the FA where people slag them for being incompetant?

abouttobebanned

The t-shirts thing last night, and the immediate, laughable, response from LFC to Suarez's ban is IMO, extremely embarrassing for Liverpool.

Let there be no doubt about this, from a very early stage, this stopped being a race thing and quickly became a MUFC V LFC thing. Liverpool fans were quick to say that Evra was the boy who cried wolf - sure wasn't this the third time he had racially accused someone. It, of course was only the first time. But why let the facts get in the way of a good ABU rant.

Man Utd fans were equaly quick to call Suarez a racist...when, let's be honest, it would be near impossible for a professional footballer to exist in the modern game whilst harbouring racist views and tendencies. What Suarez actually is, is a pup. Similar to your Keane's, Neville's, Gerrard's Cantona's, Terry's///Bartons etc...He's one of those players that you love at your club, but you secretly know that if he played for someone else, you'd fcuking hate him. Suarez has stuck fingers up at fans, called someone a name - imo just to rile up that person cause no doubt Evra is a wind up merchant himself - bit someone...it's safe to say he's no angel.

The whole thing should have been handled behind closed doors. Liverpool should have gave Suarez a slap on the wrist and that would have been that. But of course with racist allegations being made public they were forced to come out in his defence. I just think they went over board with that defence because the accusers were from Man Utd.

All the fans who are losing the run of themselves over the poor behaviour of two spoilt millionaires...should probably think twice.

gerryo777

menoscemo wrote: »

Wise up mate. i know where he's from, I've been there and I speak the language. If you call a black man you don't know 'negrito' in an argument in Uruguay it is offensive.

In the same way you've just used the word 'mate' to make your point stronger. Yes?

gerryo777

cambo2008 wrote: »

Wow,did you do the poll yourself????

Yep:D

Warper

Warper wrote: »

It is really sad to see Liverpool FC and Chelsea FC fully 100% support their players. Suarez has been found guilty of racism and Terry is being criminally charged yet it seems that these 2 clubs don't give a fcuk about their players being racist. Last night's show by the Liverpool team was disgusting as was AVB's comments re Terry.

These 2 clubs are disgraceful supporting their racist players as if there is nothing wrong with it. The supporters of these clubs are just as bad trying to defend the indefensible. Really highlights people with racist tendencies - anyone supporting this sort of thing should be ashamed of themselves. 2 disgusting clubs.

In summary, if you support Liverpool and Chelsea you're a racist.

Support Man utd and you are an adulterer.

Support Rangers and you are in the UVF and Celtic IRA.

Warper - well done. You have enlightened me. Not for the first time in this thread.

homerjay2005

Drumpot wrote: »

In today's herald ronnie Whelan says that "evra has made accusations of a similar nature on two other occasions which were proven unfounded". Were they proven unfounded or did he just not take it further!
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any paper that allows lies like this to be printed, should be taken to the cleaners. the continued ignorance of liverpool players, fans and not former players towards this particular accusation is just shambolic. its beyond belief that they choose to ignore fact on the matter that evra never got involved in those before, but continue to make up lies.

too many of them are buying into this boy who cried wolf story. its actually ironic that this very fairytale is coming back to haunt them without them realising it themselves.

eagle eye

Le King wrote: »

Coloured isn't a nice term at all. It suggests a white superiority. I can clearly understand why black people would be offended by using the word coloured to describe them.

How on earth do you make that out?

Le King wrote: »

Racists aren't generally liked in our 21st century world.

I really expected a lot more of you than this. Luis Suarez has not been accused of being a racist.

Leiva

cambo2008 wrote: »

You're not new to this thread so I'm sure you know by now that it can be used offensively :rolleyes:

That wasn't my question but go ahead have your smiley fun .

My question was ..

Whatever word was used do you know what context or environment it was said in ?
Cause a conversation , argument ,placid chat can change its context quickly and depending on when the alleged word was said does have a very important baring on the facts .

Cause no one here , on the pitch , cameras or the Ref knew when or what was said or under what context it was said in (baring in mind the exact time it was said )

All i can go on (until the facts are released) are from one party who was at the Interview stage, and that was LFC , and in their statement they clearly say that its one mans word against another .

So to summaries ..it is important to the facts in the case to know exactly when the offending word was said

We dont know that so bringing the "context" argument into the debate is as much of a guess as to what word(s) got actually used .

Paully D

abouttobebanned wrote: »

The t-shirts thing last night, and the immediate, laughable, response from LFC to Suarez's ban is IMO, extremely embarrassing for Liverpool.

The way Dalglish has conducted himself is, quite frankly, a joke. Shankly would be turning in his grave. No class at all.