Rotterdam Marathon 2012 - 15/04/2012

asimonov

village runner wrote: »

Heardunofficially Simon had a 2.46

Great running by T-runner in tough conditions - awesome stuff.

yep, 2:46:17 here - and absolutely thrilled with it. <-like this.

Race was rammed with Irish runners, helped the opening miles tick by. Conditions were tough enough on the course, lots of work to be done to avoid the worst of the wind. The start was very chaotic but that wasn't helped by turning up with 8 minutes to go and having to jump the barrier to get into the pen.

I ran without a watch so i am depending on the results for splits, but they seem to have missed the 10k one. These are the ones they do have.

0-5k 20:07
5k-15k (average 19:55) - went through 15k in 59:36
15-20K 20:02
Half 1:23:55
20 -25k 19:52
25 - 30k 19:23
30 - 35k 18:45 <-proud of this
35 - 40K 19:49 <- payback time
Half 2: 1:22:21
Total : 2:46:17

Old(er) brother, Knightmove, managed to fluke out a 3:21 as his first marathon, but we're still checking the video to see if he caught the tram at any point.

Afters spent a cracking afternoon with beepbeep and mrs. beepbeep (well until the moment i spilled beer on him as he left). Thanks for all the well wishes.

asimonov

T runner wrote: »

Link to results on facebook page....could somebody throw the link up here thanks?

well done man.

http://www.marathonrotterdam.nl/editie-2012/uitslagen

tHE vAGGABOND

Well done all!

Cold and windy here in Paris, how was your weather?

BeepBeep67

asimonov wrote: »

village runner wrote: »

Heardunofficially Simon had a 2.46

Great running by T-runner in tough conditions - awesome stuff.

yep, 2:46:17 here - and absolutely thrilled with it. <-like this.

Race was rammed with Irish runners, helped the opening miles tick by. Conditions were tough enough on the course, lots of work to be done to avoid the worst of the wind. The start was very chaotic but that wasn't helped by turning up with 8 minutes to go and having to jump the barrier to get into the pen.

I ran without a watch so i am depending on the results for splits, but they seem to have missed the 10k one. These are the ones they do have.

0-5k 20:07
5k-15k (average 19:55) - went through 15k in 59:36
15-20K 20:02
Half 1:23:55
20 -25k 19:52
25 - 30k 19:23
30 - 35k 18:45 <-proud of this
35 - 40K 19:49 <- payback time
Half 2: 1:22:21
Total : 2:46:17

Old(er) brother, Knightmove, managed to fluke out a 3:21 as his first marathon, but we're still checking the video to see if he caught the tram at any point.

Afters spent a cracking afternoon with beepbeep and mrs. beepbeep (well until the moment i spilled beer on him as he left). Thanks for all the well wishes.

This 2:46 runner was fresh as a daisy during his post race re-hydration, reckon theres more in the tank!

fowler1

T runner is from kilkenny i reckon

Pisco Sour

menoscemo wrote: »

He has already broken 3 hours last year. (2:56 I think?).

A 2:58 as far as I'm aware. Where is he gone to btw? His boards account appears closed (as is donothoponpop's). I'm missing his wind ups on elite athletics

Hard Worker

These are approximate - not official:
2.15.25 Sergiu Ciobanu
2.16.40 Sean Connolly
2.17.27 Gary Thornton
2.19.58 Thomas Frazer

2.36.14 Caitriona Jennings
2.40.20 Breege Connolly
2.43.49 Gladys Ganiel

And from Paris:
2.21.51 Alan O'Shea
2.46.42 Lorraine Manning

Well done to all the Marathon Mission athletes and a particular congrats to Caitriona, who has now given the selectors a big headache.

tunguska

Hard Worker wrote: »

2.15.25 Sergiu Ciobanu

Does that mean sergiu has qualified or did he have to get under 2:15?

TheRoadRunner

tunguska wrote: »

Does that mean sergiu has qualified or did he have to get under 2:15?

under 2.15. Not sure if another Moldovan has A standard, if not he could get sent on a B standard.

Caprica

Another Moldovan, Musinschi, has the A standard. He ran 2:13:25 yesterday in Vienna. Sergei is ranked 28th on the European lists, sadly it doesn't look like he will be going to London

http://www.tilastopaja.org/db/fulltoptbeuroevent.php?Season=2012&Ind=0&All=0&Sex=1&Event=200

RacoonQueen

Moldova have one A standard for the marathon already, think Ciobanu can declare for Poland as well.

Edit: reading that link though they've plenty of A standards so he won't go with them either.

Larry Brent

I would imagine it's Romania.

T runner

Hard Worker wrote: »

These are approximate - not official:
2.15.25 Sergiu Ciobanu
2.16.40 Sean Connolly
2.17.27 Gary Thornton
2.19.58 Thomas Frazer

2.36.14 Caitriona Jennings
2.40.20 Breege Connolly
2.43.49 Gladys Ganiel

And from Paris:
2.21.51 Alan O'Shea
2.46.42 Lorraine Manning

Well done to all the Marathon Mission athletes and a particular congrats to Caitriona, who has now given the selectors a big headache.

Looks like she ran positive splits which means she had to run through the wind and try and jump from group to group a la cycling. A lot of the elite women on exact paces suffered badly in the latter stages (as did the top 3 men, as their split from 35-40 shows). I think only a small proportion of those attempting the womens time actually made it.

Hopefully the selectors will consider that Rotterdam was running quite slow on Sunday and for someone who ran it in the gutsy way Catriona did: it was running very tough. Great strenght displayed from her to pull that run out on the day that was in it.

brutes1

Hard Worker wrote: »

These are approximate - not official:
2.15.25 Sergiu Ciobanu
2.16.40 Sean Connolly
2.17.27 Gary Thornton
2.19.58 Thomas Frazer

2.36.14 Caitriona Jennings
2.40.20 Breege Connolly
2.43.49 Gladys Ganiel

And from Paris:
2.21.51 Alan O'Shea
2.46.42 Lorraine Manning

Well done to all the Marathon Mission athletes and a particular congrats to Caitriona, who has now given the selectors a big headache.

Hear hear, some super runs there, congrats to Caitriona Jennings, so near yet so far for the lads, very disappointed for them...
Will any of them go again I wonder before the cut off date, its a big ask , but...

PaulieYifter

Rotterdam was my 4th marathon.
It brought me an unexpected PB of 3:25:15 with a 2 min negative split.

This is the story.

Garmin Link

My best prior to this was Berlin last September 2011 which I did in 3:27:58.
Felt comfortable doing Berlin so decided that 2012 was the year to target sub 3:15.

Kicked off my 18 week P&D training plan with a time of 33:09 in the Aware 5 Mile which was bang on for my marathon target.
Had entered the Bohermeen 1/2 Marathon as my prep race for Rotterdam.
The first 9 weeks of the training went spot on but then an injury had me off running for 3 weeks. As a result I missed the Bohermeen race and came to the conclusion that Rotterdam wasn't going to happen so I cancelled the family flights and hotel booking.

I then put together a plan for Cork - basically the 12 week P&D schedule.
After a couple of weeks back running with no reaction from the injury I thought that Rotterdam may be back on the cards but simply as a (tough) training run for Cork.

Rebooked flights and a hotel and brought a mate with me as a sub for the missus and kids. One of the lads in work had also entered so I felt a bit of a responsibility to go as he had entered this because I was entered.

Just gave myself a 10 day taper given I'd had a good 3 weeks rest in training already!

Arrived in Rotterdam on Saturday lunchtime.
Picked up the race number at the Expo en route to the hotel - all very straightforward and no queues.

Relaxed in the hotel while my mate went for a run rather than a pint - think the occassion got to him.

Went out for dinner to a nice Italian restaurant on Saturday night.
One of the good aspects of the race starting at 10:30 is that you don't have to be in bed too early the night before the race. Watched Match of the Day and a magnificent Man City performance before going asleep. I've never been so relaxed leading up to a race before as I had not burdened myself with a target. Got a full night's sleep.

Race Day

So to race morning. Got the breakfast in at 7:30 and got back into bed for another rest. Stopped drinking at 8:30.
Got togged out and left the hotel c. 9:15 to get to the start.

Met my colleague from work en-route. Fairly chilly morning with a bitter northerly wind blowing.

Got into my Pen - Pen D - and had space in there to get warmed up. Got in just in time because within a few mins it was rammed.
Threw tracksuit top and bottoms to my mate but held on to my hat and gloves.
Made use of one of the 'Dixie' loos in the Pen for the last time and got into position.

Enjoyed the cheesy rendition of 'You'll Never Walk Alone', the cannon fires, and we're off. Takes me just over a minute to cross the start line.

0-5km
Started on the right hand side of the street. One of the strange things was that the Business Relay teams started in front of the Pen I was in so spent the 1st km weaving through hundreds of them.
It was a bit annoying and if I had been on edge with a target time I would have been a lot more annoyed. I elbowed one or two out of the way but told myself that it wasn't their fault and to relax.
By the time I crossed the Erasmus bridge I seemed to be past most of those going slower than me so was happy enough.
We merged with the group that started on the other side of the street after about 3k but by that stage things were moving along ok.
First 5k in 24:49 and I'm surprised it wasn't slower given the weaving at the start.

5k-10k
Tipping along nicely in this section at what definitely feels like a typical easy run training pace. Grab some water at 6k but get confused by the sponge on top so toss it and grab a cup without the sponge!
There's a little section here where you have to do a 180 degree turn so you get to wave to the other runners just in front and behind you. Get rid of the hat somewhere here as I start to heat up. Not much crowds of note in the 1st 10km.
This section done in 24:32.

10k-15k
Come to a water station soon enough and take my 1st gel. Take the cups with the sponge on top and stick my straw in. Now I have the hang of it. Arrive at a section after 13k really crowded with spectators around a couple of turns and low and behold my mate is in prime position to give me a good cheer.
Get rid of the gloves soon after this.
24:33 for this.

15k-20k
Grab another gel after about 16k.
A bunch of girls somewhere along here give me a big cheer and I'm beginning to understand the Dutch pronunciation of Paul. I consider going back to them but I'm here for the race! Still feels like a nice training run.
Just before the 20k mark the wind starts to feel really cold. I'm regretting the decision to toss the gloves.
24:19 for this 5k.

20k-25k
The wind feels stiff enough in this part. I find myself tucking in behind a group irrespective of the pace they are doing. As we pass through a water station and a sponge station the group disintigrates and takes a couple of mins. for a new group to form. I'm too selfish to go to the front of any of these groups.
Its along here that I notice that the runners are starting to get strung out a bit. I see a chap in a DCM 2010 top and I shout 'Up the Dubs' as I pass him but he hasn't a clue what I'm on about. Swallow a gel just before 25k as I almost miss the water station because I'm too busy high-fiving some kids.
Past halfway in 1:43:36. 24:24 for this 5k split.

25k-30k
We cross the Erasmus Bridge again and I'm telling myself to go easy on the upward slope but my legs just want to go quicker. My mate is there again the far side of the bridge and gets a good photo of me with my arms up although I'm thinking its still early to be over confident.
We encounter the only slope other than the bridge on the entire course when we dip down to an underpass and back up. There's a line of people banging drums making a terriffic noise. Its the first time I feel myself making an effort to keep up the pace.
We get to run up to and under that cool block of Cube homes. Somewhere around 28k I get to see the women's winner, Tiki Gelana, flying down the other side of the road inside her last mile - people say it can be hard looking at others near the finish but I feel privileged to see her in action like that.
24:21 - very consistent pace.

30-35k
We enter the park section around here. Grab another gel. Crowds are sparse enough here but there's a giant message board at 33k offering runners encouragement. I keep an eye out for a message for me but it doesn't come and I start to question if my timing chip is working. Begin to feel a bit tired now and I have to concentrate more on the pace.
Given my state of mind for this race it would have been easy to ease off the pace. Then some dude with a perm and a tash straight out of a 1970s Euro porn movie rocks up alongside me. We're both motoring at the same pace - joined at the hip we're cutting our way through other runners and keeping each other up to the job.
Theres a cobble lock section for a km or so that's a bit rough to run on.
24:06

35-40k
Take my last gel. My running twin says something to me that I don't understand so I reply with "I'm Irish" and he says "Belgium" back to me - end of conversation. Grab some water at 38k where some idiot wheels his bike in front of the water stop - he gets a torrent of abuse from me. I lose Belgian porn dude at this stage.
Getting plenty of shouts of "Go Paul" from the Dutch and a thumbs up to one group meets with a roar of approval.
Leave the park and am now on the way to the finish - other runners on the far side of the road get to look at me the same way I saw Tiki!
24:13

40k-Finish
Start to put the boot down now. Grab my first taste of Extran and its good. Pass a couple of people with Irish flags so I let them know I'm Irish and they roar on some encouragement. I see 1000m painted on the road and check my watch. A 4 min final km will get me under 3:25. It's a bit late to be setting targets now!
As I turn up the Coolsingel and the huge crowd my mate is there to cheer me on again. I milk it from the crowd with arms outstretched looking like a smug tool.
Cross the line in 3:25:15. Guts of a 3 min PB so a decent "training" run.

Really enjoyed the race - Rotterdam loves their marathon. Has a "smallish" big race feel to it and with only 7,500 runners on a pancake flat course its great for those targetting a time. I found Berlin a lot more congested throughout. The water stations were very well manned. Crowds were decent enough although it was a bit sparse in places and they were a bit quietier than in Berlin. Apart from the cold wind the only negative is having the business relay runners starting in front of the 3:00-3:30 group.

Had too many pints in numerous places on Sunday night that have me the worst for wear early this week!

Next up hopefully is an all or nothing lash at 3:15 in Cork in June.

PaulieYifter

BeepBeep67 wrote: »

DNF for me felt grand to 10 and started getting bad stomach cramps, tried to run it off still went through halfway in 1:29:30ish tried another gel but only felt worse. Bailed at 16.73 in 1:54 - 6:50 pace and high tailed to the nearest toilet. Back at the hotle feeling sorry for myself but will get over it.

Sorry to hear that - maybe see you in Cork?

zinzan1

Finished in 4:17 chip time. First marathon so very happy with that. The cold suited me fine and the wind didn't really matter at the pace I was running :-) The orange quarters around 35k were brilliant and badly needed. No plans yet for another marathon but probably will go again. Best bit is - absolutely no aches or stiffness - I mustn't have been trying hard enough - or maybe it was the evening in Amsterdam afterwards!! General thumbs up for Rotterdam, the only negative was the rip-off pasta party.

Lowlands Irish

PaulieYifter wrote: »

40k-Finish
Pass a couple of people with Irish flags so I let them know I'm Irish and they roar on some encouragement.

That was me and my father (Dublin) cheering for my sister (Wicklow), her boyfriend (Kilkenny) and my husband (Holland). Congratulations on your run and glad our flags of encouragement were appreciated. Nice post !

Marthastew

PaulieYifter wrote: »

Rotterdam was my 4th marathon.
It brought me an unexpected PB of 3:25:15 with a 2 min negative split.

.......

Next up hopefully is an all or nothing lash at 3:15 in Cork in June.

Only just catching up on your report, I really enjoyed it and I'm thrilled for you. A PB with no pressure, well done! 3.15 in Cork here you come....
And as an added bonus you've got a contact in the Belgian porn industry if you get tired of running marathons.;):D

I hope you brought a nice present home to Mrs Paulie and the kids, you'll have to take them with you on your next marathon that's not in Ireland....

dowlinj

PaulieYifter wrote: »

Really enjoyed the race - Rotterdam loves their marathon. Has a "smallish" big race feel to it and with only 7,500 runners on a pancake flat course its great for those targetting a time. I found Berlin a lot more congested throughout. The water stations were very well manned. Crowds were decent enough although it was a bit sparse in places and they were a bit quietier than in Berlin. Apart from the cold wind the only negative is having the business relay runners starting in front of the 3:00-3:30 group.

One of the downsides was the coral organisation. Was fairly chaotic just getting into pen D at the start and there was a lot of folk jumping the fence to get in. I opted for the civil approach, confident I'd do serious damage just trying to get my big arse over the fence.

My aim was to follow the 3:30 pace group but I couldn't get near the balloon (which was tiny) at the start, but figured I'd catch it after a few ks. Took a good 4 minutes to get to the line after the gun which was fine. Things got a bit tricky then - as Paulie said, somehow the organisers managed to have some of the slower waves merging ahead of some faster waves (where the two sides of the road joined up after 3-4ks). After a good 5ks of weaving from the start, I eventually spotted the balloon I was after, then upon closer inspection, I realised it was the 3:45 pace balloon! No panic - as I was on pace at this point, just the weaving effort was becoming a bit annoying. Eventually got around this group but there was another good 2-3ks of weaving before things spread out somewhat and I got my rhythm. Lesson learned on this one, get your ass to the coral nice and early.

Negatives aside, really enjoyed the race overall. Thought the crowds were great. Myself and the OH were running together and we opted to get our names printed on our singlets, with some shamrocks for added effect! I was initially wary about this, thinking it might get a bit annoying when the tough got going, but it worked out really well in the end. Just took a while to tune in the Dutch shouting my name ...yeshhhh Jahnnnyy. Was really lapping it up with the crowds, hands to the ears etc. at every opportunity, which really got the noise up. Made the most of this going back into town over the Erasmus Bridge @ around 26k. Really enjoyed the final 400m of the race, great noise and support - Endorphin central!

In the end, never caught a glimpse of the 3:30 balloon all day - just glad I had the wife to keep me moving!

Course-wise, pancake flat besides a couple of under-passes and two trips over the Erasmus Bridge. Definitely PB land.

All-in-all, a great day out. Advise to others would be to get into the corals as early as possible, particularly if you're aiming to run with a pace group.

PaulieYifter

Well done John.
Thankfully I didn't suffer with the congestion as much as you as I managed to get near the front of the Pen.

Saw your photos and was wondering what the story was with you holding hands up the finishing straight - now I understand

dowlinj

PaulieYifter wrote: »

Well done John.
Thankfully I didn't suffer with the congestion as much as you as I managed to get near the front of the Pen.

Thanks Paulie. Well done yourself. Will definitely opt for getting as close to the front as possible in my next mass-participation event - never quite experienced that level of congestion for such a sustained period.

PaulieYifter wrote: »

Saw your photos and was wondering what the story was with you holding hands up the finishing straight - now I understand

Haha...yeah, we embraced the full-on Kodak cheese moment in the heat of the finishing straight - may be the only time we do that - she's sure to drop me the next time!