Winter Charts 2011/2012

pistolpetes11 · 25-01-2012 2:19pm

And another one

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Tom Cruises Left Nut · 25-01-2012 8:08pm

Awh yeah

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geetar · 25-01-2012 9:33pm

nacho libre wrote: »

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Yes please! of course it more than likely won't happen

i would have thought that this was bad? does the air not move from high to low?

nerrad1983 · 25-01-2012 10:10pm

From what i can gather that is letting the easterly wind hit us good

Could be totally wrong as i am only a newbie on this

pistolpetes11 · 26-01-2012 12:27am

t|nt|n wrote: »

Awh yeah

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Il see your 7th of Feb Chart and Il raise you one from the 3rd !!!!

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Tom Cruises Left Nut · 26-01-2012 11:24am

Man you really have to use the direct forum link so the image doesn't change !

pistolpetes11 · 26-01-2012 11:27am

t|nt|n wrote: »

Man you really have to use the direct forum link so the image doesn't change !

I thought I did , Dam it ! Looked a whole lot better last night !

Tom Cruises Left Nut · 26-01-2012 11:29am

pistolpetes11 wrote: »

I thought I did , Dam it ! Looked a whole lot better last night !

I don't mind, mine looks brilliant now !!

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Richierich1970 · 26-01-2012 12:20pm

I might be wrong as I'm new to this , but it seems to be that we're heading for a big easterly coming in . Would this bring with it the chance of a big lake effect dump over the London area . Similar to the dump in north west Kent dec 2010. Let's hope so !!

geetar · 26-01-2012 1:29pm

Richierich1970 wrote: »

I might be wrong as I'm new to this , but it seems to be that we're heading for a big easterly coming in . Would this bring with it the chance of a big lake effect dump over the London area . Similar to the dump in north west Kent dec 2010. Let's hope so !!

ah yes the north west kent dump of 2010. we remember it well....:rolleyes:

Richierich1970 · 26-01-2012 1:49pm

It was certainly one to remember , I'm in south Orpington , and it snowed for 3 days non stop , at it deepest we had 19 1/2 inches of level snow . Awesome !!! Come on beasterly ! , let's see you again !!

pistolpetes11 · 26-01-2012 6:21pm

How I love FI Candy

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opr · 27-01-2012 11:40pm

Sweet Jesus!

Opr

aurora 527 · 27-01-2012 11:43pm

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NIALL D · 28-01-2012 12:19am

savage cabbage !!!

this is starting to look really interesting !!!!!:) hope it comes off..

Daniel2590 · 28-01-2012 8:35pm

Dare I dream of a Greenland high developing? :pac:

pistolpetes11 · 28-01-2012 10:21pm

Some really nice cold uppers , Im even getting cold looking at them

Irish Steve · 28-01-2012 10:37pm

pistolpetes11 wrote: »

Some really nice cold uppers , Im even getting cold looking at them

And if the comments made earlier in one of the threads was right, the difference between the sea temp and the surface temp and that wind direction suggests that convective snow on the east coast is a possibilty.

Having said that, depending on the wind strength, I have known coastal snow only get 3 or 4 miles inland before it becomes nothing at all.

Is that a reasonable summation of the possibles here? I'm going on convective rather than frontal, which would have a much wider implication area wise.

rc28 · 28-01-2012 10:39pm

Irish Steve wrote: »

And if the comments made earlier in one of the threads was right, the difference between the sea temp and the surface temp and that wind direction suggests that convective snow on the east coast is a possibilty.

Having said that, depending on the wind strength, I have known coastal snow only get 3 or 4 miles inland before it becomes nothing at all.

Is that a reasonable summation of the possibles here? I'm going on convective rather than frontal, which would have a much wider implication area wise.

Well I'm about 20-25 miles from the coast and we have gotten up to 10 inches from convective Irish sea snow showers.

pistolpetes11 · 28-01-2012 10:39pm

Irish Steve wrote: »

And if the comments made earlier in one of the threads was right, the difference between the sea temp and the surface temp and that wind direction suggests that convective snow on the east coast is a possibilty.

Having said that, depending on the wind strength, I have known coastal snow only get 3 or 4 miles inland before it becomes nothing at all.

Is that a reasonable summation of the possibles here? I'm going on convective rather than frontal, which would have a much wider implication area wise.

You would be correct although some would say that the high pressure would counteract that, although there would be such a massive difference in upper and surface seas temps , I dont see it being an issue

Irish Steve · 28-01-2012 11:06pm

rc28 wrote: »

Well I'm about 20-25 miles from the coast and we have gotten up to 10 inches from convective Irish sea snow showers.

We're less than 15, and you'd be amazed the number of times I could almost draw a line somewhere on the road between Ashbourne and Swords, one side of it there would be snow, and the other side, nothing. All too often, it was only on the coastal side that the snow was falling, though it very much depends on the wind speed, and the thickness of the cloud layer. The Isle of Man streamer last winter was another example, some days, the snow on the coast was brutal, but only a few miles inland, there was nothing worth getting excited about. That's only over an area of a few miles, so trying to produce an accurate forecast for the entire country is a serious issue, and getting it right is almost impossible

As I commented a while back, I should have got a job as a weather forecaster, I can't think of any other job where I could get it wrong so often and not get fired, and before I get jumped on, that's not a dig at the forecasters, just a plain statement of what often happens because we're not talking an exact science here, to take on board another comment, "Ireland doesn't have a climate, it has weather":D

pistolpetes11 · 29-01-2012 12:02am

Its beautiful to look at

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Irish Steve · 29-01-2012 12:19am

pistolpetes11 wrote: »

Its beautiful to look at

Yes, that's getting very close to not so much closing the door as erecting something close to the Berlin Wall against the warmer air. It it succeeds in linking in the cold air from Greenland, it could make for a very solidly placed block that will take some serious shifting

That said, it could then end up like 62 in the south west of England, it snowed on Stephen's Day, right down to the coast, so there was snow only a matter of yards from the sea, but then there wasn't any further snow right through till March, when it eventually thawed. I was a LOT younger then, so didn't take the same notice of weather charts, the main memory was of a very fast sledge that we made, used alkathene water pipe as runners, and went like Sh1t off a plated shovel on the frozen snow, which was OK as long as there was an adult at the bottom of the hill to stop us before we hit the bramble hedge:D. If they missed us, it was not fun getting us and the sledge back out again without damage;)

Old habits die hard, when we had a hard winter in the 80's I made a sledge out of scrap Aluminium Top hat section left over from a trailer maker. It had a huge ground clearance, like nearly a foot, and could take an adult and 2 children, and with flat bottom runners nearly 2" wide, it was another flyer. Still have that, it came to Ireland when we moved over in 1990, but it's not seen much use over the years, until the last 2 winters, but we don't have any really good sledging hills near us here.

The interesting aspect of this latest set of charts is that it's only developing very slowly, but each iteration of the models shows it getting nearer and nearer to us, daytime negative temperatures is something I can't remember happening for any length of time over the last 20 years, and anything seriously negative hasn't happened for as long as I can remember.

As to what it will do for the country, that's probably better not thought about too much, the Isle of Man streamer caused chaos at the airport last year, and there was no grit on some of the roads from the start to the finish of the snow, hopefully some of those lessons have been learnt, time may indeed tell in that respect.