*Everything HPAT and Medicine 2012*

danbag1989

kayleigh01 wrote: »

Went to the Trinity Open Day and basically trolled all the Health Sciences talks and stands and I'm getting more and more depressed by the thought of doing something that isn't Medicine.

Before yesterday I thought I had a chance... But now... Arts degree here I come.

Hey, why do you think you dont have a chance if you dont mind me asking?

kayleigh01

danbag1989 wrote: »

Hey, why do you think you dont have a chance if you dont mind me asking?

With the immense amount of people who are already in college and planning on repeating the HPAT and also this years LC's who want Med, I just don't think I'll cut it, tbh.

QueenOfLeon

kayleigh01 wrote: »

With the immense amount of people who are already in college and planning on repeating the HPAT and also this years LC's who want Med, I just don't think I'll cut it, tbh.

Who knows. The HPAT makes things a bit unpredictable really.

danbag1989

All you can do is your best and work your ass off, if you dont get in then at least you know you tried your best and can start thinking bout different options, grad entry, mature entry, maybe think bout going abroad.

kayleigh01 wrote: »

With the immense amount of people who are already in college and planning on repeating the HPAT and also this years LC's who want Med, I just don't think I'll cut it, tbh.

jumpguy

kayleigh01 wrote: »

With the immense amount of people who are already in college and planning on repeating the HPAT and also this years LC's who want Med, I just don't think I'll cut it, tbh.

If you're not in you can't win should be the attitude with the HPAT. Just go and give it your level best, in preparation and in the actual exam, but don't stress too much!

kayleigh01

danbag1989 wrote: »

All you can do is your best and work your ass off, if you dont get in then at least you know you tried your best and can start thinking bout different options, grad entry, mature entry, maybe think bout going abroad.

True, all very true. I guess I'm just feeling a little disheartened atm. Just need to get re-motivated to actually do more work. :rolleyes:

jumpguy wrote: »

If you're not in you can't win should be the attitude with the HPAT. Just go and give it your level best, in preparation and in the actual exam, but don't stress too much!

Here's hoping that my best is enough. Lol, stressing is the only thing I can do right at the moment. :P

Thanks to both of you.

danbag1989

No hassle! weve all been there i think, periodically i just feel like dropping the whole thing ha, but you gotta motivate yourself like you said.

kayleigh01 wrote: »

True, all very true. I guess I'm just feeling a little disheartened atm. Just need to get re-motivated to actually do more work. :rolleyes:



Here's hoping that my best is enough. Lol, stressing is the only thing I can do right at the moment. :P

Thanks to both of you.

Allie79

bamhaithliom wrote: »

I'm currently studying Medicine in TCD, I'd say close to 90% of those who sat the HPAT in my class did the M**e***y course. I would highly recommend it on that basis alone. I did Careers Services and although it helped me and I found it really useful, practice material was lacking and I feel I would've benefited more from the former.

I'm in the same boat and completely agree, if I was doing it again I'd definitely do that course rather than the CS one. I think it gives you the best chance of getting a good score as it has the most practice material.

Just Like Heaven

Allie79 wrote: »

I'm in the same boat and completely agree, if I was doing it again I'd definitely do that course rather than the CS one. I think it gives you the best chance of getting a good score as it has the most practice material.

But. Didn't you score like. The best hpat ever?

Allie79

Section 3 was my worst score, with more prep it might have been closer to the other two. Not complaining like....just would advise people to do the course with the most prep for the section you can change the most!

Just Like Heaven

Allie79 wrote: »

Section 3 was my worst score, with more prep it might have been closer to the other two. Not complaining like....just would advise people to do the course with the most prep for the section you can change the most!

Oh I wasn't having a go at you :P

My prep is next weekend, i'm looking forward to it really. Kinda wish I'd chosen to do the naughty word one now, but i'm sure it's all the same stuff. I'll be glad to get the Hpat out of the way really for, for this year at least. Pleased we get our results in April too.

Allie79

Which one are you doing? If you don't feel it's enough you can always opt for the online version of the other one afterwards. It's definitely better to be getting your HPAT results in April, so much more time to consider your options. Hope the prep goes well.

Just Like Heaven

Allie79 wrote: »

Which one are you doing? If you don't feel it's enough you can always opt for the online version of the other one afterwards. It's definitely better to be getting your HPAT results in April, so much more time to consider your options. Hope the prep goes well.

Independant Academy, I don't know why really. I'd heard so many complaints about the madentry from people who had paid such an insane amount of money and scored like 80, but considering the amount of people who probably sit that one you'll get people who are going to score poorly regardless.

I think getting the results early will be encouraging to study for the last 5 weeks regardless if the score is good or bad :pac:

Allie79

Well best of luck anyway - I'm sure it'll all go well.

Random_Person

IOE Course. Nuff said.

Closet Monkey

Random_Person wrote: »

IOE Course. Nuff said.

I didn't know they had an IOE course. Is it good?

Nazata

My school has a copy of a paper, in which the first question in section 1 is on legumes, could someone please tell me if this is the first sample paper, the second or neither?

Orange juice

It's the first one!!

shunter07

Hey people, my M******Y course member dropped out ! If anyone would like to do the discount partnership please please PM me!!!:( THANKS!!

leavingcert.

shunter07 wrote: »

Hey people, my M******Y course member dropped out ! If anyone would like to do the discount partnership please please PM me!!!:( THANKS!!

for when and wherE?

Coco pop

Hey.. is anybody interested in joining in a group discount with me for Med Entry 2012 for the 7th and 8th of January ? please pm me !!

Conn000

Howdy. Im Conn, 25, thinking of going for medicine. And I was researching different careers and courses etc etc. Im kinda daunted by the amount of post grad training required once you finished the internship.

Random_Person

Closet Monkey wrote: »

I didn't know they had an IOE course. Is it good?

It's fantastic, I did it in October and I'm glad of it.

Give me a pm if you'd like any more details.

Oween

Hey, I'm currently doing the ******** distance package online and finding it excellent. However, after doing some practice exams I find myself really disheartened to see my percentile quite low. For example, in one section I got 30/40 (75%), a score which I would consider good, only to discover I'm in the "percentile of 29". I'm just wondering are these percentiles accurate or are other people having the same difficulties, or are the standards just that high? Can I take these percentiles as accurate or not, considering students can take as much time as they want, and may have seen the test previously? I'm scoring consistently decent but the percentiles I'm getting are really low. Are the percentiles inaccurate or do I just really have to up my game? I'll be interested to see what other people have to say as it has been annoying me for a while now...

Anita Blow

You are marked in relation to everyone else. So a question that everyone else answers correct may only receive 1 mark or even 0 marks, but if you get a question correct that most others got wrong, then you will get more marks for that question.
30/40 doesn't equate to getting 75% in the HPAT. After weightings are attached then your score is brought down or up. You could only be getting the questions that everyone else is getting correct.

Oween

Hmmm, yes I was thinking this but I still find it bizarre to get a percentile this low, especially since I was previously told anything around 65/66% of the entire HPAT would be in the 90th percentile? I'm surprised to see the standard so high. I would like to know how these percentiles compared to how people actually did in their HPAT? Thanks for replying, are you doing the ********? How are you finding it?

jumpguy

Oween wrote: »

Hey, I'm currently doing the ******** distance package online and finding it excellent. However, after doing some practice exams I find myself really disheartened to see my percentile quite low. For example, in one section I got 30/40 (75%), a score which I would consider good, only to discover I'm in the "percentile of 29". I'm just wondering are these percentiles accurate or are other people having the same difficulties, or are the standards just that high? Can I take these percentiles as accurate or not, considering students can take as much time as they want, and may have seen the test previously? I'm scoring consistently decent but the percentiles I'm getting are really low. Are the percentiles inaccurate or do I just really have to up my game? I'll be interested to see what other people have to say as it has been annoying me for a while now...

I was the same when I did it, don't be disheartened. I got in 0-20% for a good few sections of it...it was seriously disheartening. Got in the 73rd percentile in the real thing!

Anita Blow

Oween wrote: »

Hmmm, yes I was thinking this but I still find it bizarre to get a percentile this low, especially since I was previously told anything around 65/66% of the entire HPAT would be in the 90th percentile? I'm surprised to see the standard so high. I would like to know how these percentiles compared to how people actually did in their HPAT? Thanks for replying, are you doing the ********? How are you finding it?

Did the HPAT last year and repeating this year. Signed up for ******** and am going to the course in about 10 days. The online element is really helpful.

I'd say don't get disheartened by ********. I'd say the results are slightly skewed because as people re-take the tests more and more, their results will get higher. Keep practicising regularly and I'm sure you'll be grand!

Medicine333

Anita Blow wrote: »

Did the HPAT last year and repeating this year. Signed up for ******** and am going to the course in about 10 days. The online element is really helpful.

I'd say don't get disheartened by ********. I'd say the results are slightly skewed because as people re-take the tests more and more, their results will get higher. Keep practicising regularly and I'm sure you'll be grand!

Hey, I'm in the same position as you-repeating the HPAT and doing Med-Entry!:) How often do you log onto LMS and how long do you spend at it?

Anita Blow

Medicine333 wrote: »

Hey, I'm in the same position as you-repeating the HPAT and doing Med-Entry!:) How often do you log onto LMS and how long do you spend at it?

Well I'm in college at the moment so haven't had much time in the past 2 weeks with christmas exams. Have a month off now to study it pretty regularly.
Usually try and get it once a day for an hour or hour and a half. Even if I'm busy I try to squeeze in a few of those memory bank questions.

Ladyla

I'm a Northern Ireland applicant, just wondering, are there any other NI applicants?:)

Sunny!!

how much should i be practising for the hpat? everyday or once a week or what?

just a little unsure:(

Aoifelene

Hi I'm doing the m******y course next week I want to get the most out of it.
Just wondering if anyone would have a tips on what to have prepared for the workshop? What information to have read on LMS? What questions to ask etc.
Really just tips to get the most value from it.
thanks:D

graham joyce

hi my name is graham can you send me all your motes on the hpat please to <snip> thanks

QueenOfLeon

Its not a good idea to have your email address visible on a public forum.

Sunny!!

how much time are others spending on it??

Amysk

Just joined this site today.
Anyone doing the M******Y course Dublin 29th /30th ?
I'm Looking to get group discount if there's anyone interested at this late stage please let me know.

graham joyce

clartharlear wrote: »

I used to coordinate a HPAT prep course and the HPAT folder on my computer has literally hundreds of files on critical thinking, logical reasoning, nonverbal reasoning, aptitude tests, brainteasers... as well as gigabytes of sample questions in section 1, 2, 3 categories. (Not infrequently without official answers though.)

If anyone would like me to email them some of the above anytime, send me a PM with your email address and any area in particular you're looking for. See what you can get for free before shelling out to M*curse*y!

Mods, would you like to make this post a sticky?

yep please can you send it to <snip> thanks

0mega

To guarantee yourself a place in medicine, excluding the HPAT.

I'd really like to know what my target is and what grades I need to get in each subjects.

Assuming that I get the average result in the HPAT (not too sure what that is), what's the minimum amount of points I'd need to be confident of getting a place in medicine?

Just Like Heaven

Short answer 550. If your applying for med you aim for 550. But i'm afraid it comes down to the Hpat either way.

Just Like Heaven

0mega wrote: »

To guarantee yourself a place in medicine, excluding the HPAT.

Sorry, I read this properly Err there's no score in the LC that can guarantee you a place in medicine.

Whilst 550 levels the playing field somewhat, you can bet that there will be people this year getting 610-625 in the leaving cert and not getting into medicine. Soz.

QueenOfLeon

There is no guarantee, people have got 600 and not got in, while others have got 500 and do. To optimise your score against all the people you're competing against, reaching 550 will only give those above you a small advantage because of the adjustments after 550.

And unfortunately, if you get the average score (if you mean ~50th percentile) its very unlikely that you'll get in. Getting 170 last year along with 600 points (730 altogether) would barely have got a place, and thats around the 70th percentile iirc.

CookieMonster.x

Hi everyone, I'm in 5th year at the moment and hope to do medicine. I am doing the m******* prep course online and attended the workshop. To be honest I've hardly done anything (3 or 4 drills) which I feel terrible about. At the workshop we sat a trial exam and I received the feedback for it. It says I got 90th percentile in section 2 compared to everyone else who did it (all workshops). However a while ago I did a practice test and only got 36th percentile for section 2 (first and only). I thought I had done much better than 36th as I only has a few wrong (can't remember how many but it wasn't much). Does anyone have any ideas as to why this is?? Could it be anything to di with the fact that the trial was on paper form and the practice was on the computer as I hate doing things on the computer, I just can't concentrate properly.
Also I was wondering how much people do and when they practice for it?
Thanks for any help!

partyatmygaff

Relax... you're in Fifth Year. If you really want to worry yourself about the HPAT earlier than you should, wait until you're finished fifth year. Focus on your LC and get the basics sorted out before sixth year.

Oween

CookieMonster.x wrote: »

Hi everyone, I'm in 5th year at the moment and hope to do medicine. I am doing the m******* prep course online and attended the workshop. To be honest I've hardly done anything (3 or 4 drills) which I feel terrible about. At the workshop we sat a trial exam and I received the feedback for it. It says I got 90th percentile in section 2 compared to everyone else who did it (all workshops). However a while ago I did a practice test and only got 36th percentile for section 2 (first and only). I thought I had done much better than 36th as I only has a few wrong (can't remember how many but it wasn't much). Does anyone have any ideas as to why this is?? Could it be anything to di with the fact that the trial was on paper form and the practice was on the computer as I hate doing things on the computer, I just can't concentrate properly.
Also I was wondering how much people do and when they practice for it?
Thanks for any help!

Percentiles in ******** are messed up, have no idea why - pretty disappointing considering how much it was... I've been getting around 75% of the questions right in most sections in the practice exams and ended up in anywhere between the 30-60 percentile range which is not right... Was talking to a few of my friends they were having the same problem... I'm just ignoring the percentiles on ******** and concentrating on the actual scores I'm getting... I would say you would need to get at least in the 80th percentile in the actual HPAT with 570/580+ points to get into medicine...

jumpguy

CookieMonster.x wrote: »

Hi everyone, I'm in 5th year at the moment and hope to do medicine. I am doing the m******* prep course online and attended the workshop. To be honest I've hardly done anything (3 or 4 drills) which I feel terrible about. At the workshop we sat a trial exam and I received the feedback for it. It says I got 90th percentile in section 2 compared to everyone else who did it (all workshops). However a while ago I did a practice test and only got 36th percentile for section 2 (first and only). I thought I had done much better than 36th as I only has a few wrong (can't remember how many but it wasn't much). Does anyone have any ideas as to why this is?? Could it be anything to di with the fact that the trial was on paper form and the practice was on the computer as I hate doing things on the computer, I just can't concentrate properly.
Also I was wondering how much people do and when they practice for it?
Thanks for any help!

I fear you're wasting your time...the HPAT is due a review and will probably be changed about for 2013. There's a chance they mightn't change it, but I wouldn't advise any 5th year to buy a prep course at the moment.

Even if the HPAT was definitely gonna be the same in 2013, I still wouldn't advise a 5th year to stress over the HPAT. Focus on your LC in 5th year...it will probably account for roughly 5/7 of your points to get into medicine.

On another note, I also did med-entry (in 6th year), and my percentiles varied wildly from 80/90th percentile in very few to 0-20th percentile in some. Don't worry about them - focus on your timing, and when you finish look at why you got the question wrong. I think they should get rid of the percentile thing - it's very confidence-degrading and people can easily just spend more time than they're allowed to get a better score.

To get into medicine at the lowest-points university (NUIG usually), you really need at least 75th percentile in your HPAT and to break the 550 barrier at LC or probably go a small bit beyond. That's just to barely scrape into NUIG medicine. 80th percentile and above is the ideal safe-zone.

111333371

Would ANYONE out there have the online Med* entry course that they are not using, I am in dire need to repeat my hpat but dont think its worth the money for just one month

Taco Chips

Hi everyone. I'm looking to book a med entry course in Griffith College Dublin on 18/19th of Feb. Obviously I'm also keen to get the group discount so if anyone else is interested in booking with me drop me a message!

hollingr

saw someone in another thread here looking for a group taco, i think his name was ultimatehero or something like that. this was yesterday so he's prob still lookin..

Taco Chips

hollingr wrote: »

saw someone in another thread here looking for a group taco, i think his name was ultimatehero or something like that. this was yesterday so he's prob still lookin..

Thanks I'll have a look :cool: