Tonight With Vincent Browne Thread v2.0

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So many of these pro-lifers are more interested in the unborn and not the living.

wp_rathead

hotmail.com wrote: »

So many of these pro-lifers are more interested in the unborn and not the living.

grey_so_what

This topic reminds me of a group of lads around a Halloween fire tossing a cinder from one to other with the hope they don't get singed........

It would be funny if it wasn't so tragic........No-one wants to take this by the goolies and deal with it.........sadly.

alan partridge aha

Ah Vinnie on his high horse, It now looks like this case might not be an issue, the doctor said removal or not of the unborn may still have resulted in her death. There is no issue the woman miscarried, everyone is listening to a traumatised husband rather than the doctors. The truth will out.

Callan57

I'm really glad that poor husband is back in India and not listening to his wife's death and suffering being discussed so casually :mad:

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This Caroline one is pretty awful as usual.

I don't trust any of the research she speaks about.

Call me Al

alan partridge aha wrote: »

Ah Vinnie on his high horse, It now looks like this case might not be an issue, the doctor said removal or not of the unborn may still have resulted in her death. There is no issue the woman miscarried, everyone is listening to a traumatised husband rather than the doctors. The truth will out.

Maybe that's because by the time she was wheeled down to theatre she was already desperately ill from septicemia. If doctors had offered a termination once they realised they were at the point of no return for the foetus, as they do in all 1st world countries, rather than insisting they had to let nature take its course, this poor woman would probably still be be with us.

Call me Al

alan partridge aha wrote: »

Ah Vinnie on his high horse, It now looks like this case might not be an issue, the doctor said removal or not of the unborn may still have resulted in her death. There is no issue the woman miscarried, everyone is listening to a traumatised husband rather than the doctors. The truth will out.

Maybe that's because by the time she was wheeled down to theatre she was already desperately ill from septicemia. If doctors had offered a termination once they realised they were at the point of no return for the foetus, as they do in all 1st world countries, rather than insisting they had to let nature take its course, this poor woman would probably still be be with us.

Lenin Skynard

Is that young Labour TD wearing a wig? He looks ridiculous!

alan partridge aha

Call me Al wrote: »

Maybe that's because by the time she was wheeled down to theatre she was already desperately ill from septicemia. If doctors had offered a termination once they realised they were at the point of no return for the foetus, as they do in all 1st world countries, rather than insisting they had to let nature take its course, this poor woman would probably still be be with us.

Thats a big maybe, again wait till the reports and don't jump on the bandwagon of listening to a distraught husband. Ireland is one of the safest places to have a child compared to alot of 1st world countries.

BaZmO*

I'm not a doctor so I'm no gonna give an opinion on the if's and but's of what may or may not have happened. The important point here is that there is an ambiguity surrounding the issue. This needs to be removed so that doctors's hands are not tied when it comes to tragic cases like this.

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alan partridge aha wrote: »

Thats a big maybe, again wait till the reports and don't jump on the bandwagon of listening to a distraught husband. Ireland is one of the safest places to have a child compared to alot of 1st world countries.

She was in pain and she wanted a termination. It should have been performed. End of story.

brian ireland

I remember a while ago Vincent had a lad on and they where talking about this new fantastic technology that would show the front pages or the news spreads on screen.
I can see them being used but all i ever see is blurred text and fizzy photos

BaZmO*

hotmail.com wrote: »

She was in pain and she wanted a termination. It should have been performed. End of story.

It's not as simple as that. Doctors have a duty of care to the patient and have to do what's right in their educated opinion.

alan partridge aha

hotmail.com wrote: »

She was in pain and she wanted a termination. It should have been performed. End of story.

Will you please stop quoting from what the husband told this reporter and please wait for the reports. There is always TWO sides to a story.

Call me Al

alan partridge aha wrote: »

Thats a big maybe, again wait till the reports and don't jump on the bandwagon of listening to a distraught husband. Ireland is one of the safest places to have a child compared to alot of 1st world countries.

It isn't a big maybe at all
And whose bandwagon have you jumped on that you have come to your "informed" conclusions?

Call me Al

alan partridge aha wrote: »

Will you please stop quoting from what the husband told this reporter and please wait for the reports. There is always TWO sides to a story.

Why should he?
From what I can see it is being widely published in the media.

Btw was the doctor you mentioned earlier involved in this lady's treatment while in UCHG? Was he involved in decisions relating to her care, as her husband was?

alan partridge aha

Call me Al wrote: »

It isn't a big maybe at all
And whose bandwagon have you jumped on that you have come to your "informed" conclusions?

Look it up please, We have not heard from anyone medical at the hospital, this will come out in the reports. There is 2 sides to every story and as of now we have only heard one.

Call me Al

alan partridge aha wrote: »

Look it up please, We have not heard from anyone medical at the hospital, this will come out in the reports. There is 2 sides to every story and as of now we have only heard one.

Look what up? What are you talking about now?

Call me Al

alan partridge aha wrote: »

Look it up please, We have not heard from anyone medical at the hospital, this will come out in the reports. There is 2 sides to every story and as of now we have only heard one.

Look what up? What are you talking about now?

alan partridge aha

Call me Al wrote: »

Why should he?
From what I can see it is being widely published in the media.

Btw was the doctor you mentioned earlier involved in this lady's treatment while in UCHG? Was he involved in decisions relating to her care, as her husband was?

No, but we have not heard from the doctors or medical staff at the hospital, and until then reserve judgement please.

alan partridge aha

Call me Al wrote: »

Look what up? What are you talking about now?

What are you talking about. I am not jumping on any bandwagon, all i'm saying is there is 2 sides, we have only heard one.

Call me Al

alan partridge aha wrote: »

No, but we have not heard from the doctors or medical staff at the hospital, and until then reserve judgement please.

She died and she shouldn't have so i guess uchg wasn't the safest hospital for her.

Thanks all the same but i think i will stick with what my gut tells me...
And maybe by the second or third revised report of events that so often have to dragged from medical staff we will have the truth.

Cynical. Or maybe realistic!

alan partridge aha

Call me Al wrote: »

She died and she shouldn't have so i guess uchg wasn't the safest hospital for her.

Thanks all the same but i think i will stick with what my gut tells me...
And maybe by the second or third revised report of events that so often have to dragged from medical staff we will have the truth.

Cynical. Or maybe realistic!

Agreed absolutely she should not have died and if medical staff are culpable, then actions must be taken. Sadly mistakes are made and people die, but that still wouldn't stop me going there.

Galwayguy35

Call me Al wrote: »

She died and she shouldn't have so i guess uchg wasn't the safest hospital for her.

Thanks all the same but i think i will stick with what my gut tells me...
And maybe by the second or third revised report of events that so often have to dragged from medical staff we will have the truth.

Cynical. Or maybe realistic!

How about you save your guesswork about UCHG until more information becomes available.

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alan partridge aha wrote: »

Will you please stop quoting from what the husband told this reporter and please wait for the reports. There is always TWO sides to a story.

She asked 3 times for a termination. Do you not believe the husband?

Good loser

hotmail.com wrote: »

She asked 3 times for a termination. Do you not believe the husband?

That in itself is not conclusive of anything. If the obstetrician felt a termination would be more dangerous he wouldn't have done it, regardless of the patient's wishes.

Believe the septicemia flared late in the day.

Sorcha16

I love how this paediatrician unceremoniously interrupts others and then demands to be allowed to finish

Callan57

I'd be absolutely petrified if I was a pregnant woman in Ireland at the moment ...

Dodd

There is some amount of jokeing on a serious subject.