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Freeman Megamerge

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    #1172
    Fred Swanson
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    #1173
    Losty Dublin
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    Fred Swanson wrote: »
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    You actually need to show some sort of a valid business link towards a name or phrase or image or a logo that people can associate with you in order for it to be considered a trade mark; this is in simple terms. For example, Guinness/Diageo have the Arthur Guinness signature as a trade mark, McDonalds both the name and the yellow arch and so on.

    Were you to trade mark an actual given name then you would want be be very well known and do a hell of a lot of business in your field under it; perhaps an entertainer or TV chef. The average Joe would be unlikely to be allowed to register their name as one.


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    #1174
    moyners
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    jd wrote: »
    From http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/debtors-protect-assets-in-private-trust-237320.html



    Looking at
    http://www.longfordleader.ie/news/local/court-orders-newtowncashel-pub-s-owners-to-vacate-premises-1-5388974



    Looks like the same guy. I wonder did the owners of the pub join a "Trust"


    http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/middle-ireland-fights-back-241354.html

    The Rodolphus Allen Trust in the papers today


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    #1175
    Robbo
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    moyners wrote: »
    http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/middle-ireland-fights-back-241354.html

    The Rodolphus Allen Trust in the papers today
    The classic Freeman/receiver standoff victory.

    If Allen's claim of 2,000 members is correct and the fees have been variously reported at €200-700, quite the pot has been amassed and one of his former acolytes is none to impressed.

    I've sold monorails to Brockway, Ogdenville, and North Haverbrook, and by gum it put them on the map...


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    #1176
    littlemac1980
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    moyners wrote: »
    http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/middle-ireland-fights-back-241354.html

    The Rodolphus Allen Trust in the papers today

    Speechless....


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    Losty Dublin
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    Robbo wrote: »
    The classic Freeman/receiver standoff victory.
    .

    Victory for mob justice more like.


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    moyners wrote: »
    http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/middle-ireland-fights-back-241354.html

    The Rodolphus Allen Trust in the papers today

    See how handy our freeman bull**** cross reference page "protect the names" is?

    Eugene McDermott owned the farm did he? Well let us have a look down the page and what do we find at the bottom of the "e" section?? You guessed it! EUGENE MCDERMOTT(tm).

    What a handy page that is!


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    #1179
    Grolschevik
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    He said the receivers, gardaí, and armed gardaí later arrived at the property with, what he said “purported to be a High Court order”

    Jaysus.


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    hardCopy
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    Grolschevik wrote: »
    He said the receivers, gardaí, and armed gardaí later arrived at the property with, what he said “purported to be a High Court order”

    Jaysus.

    The cops will just come back in a couple of days once the Rent-a-Crowd have gone home.


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    #1181
    Robbo
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    hardCopy wrote: »
    The cops will just come back in a couple of days once the Rent-a-Crowd have gone home.
    Exactly what happened after Ben Gilroy's most famous Constitutionalisin' victory.


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    Fred Swanson
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    Cody Pomeray
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    moyners wrote: »
    http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/middle-ireland-fights-back-241354.html

    The Rodolphus Allen Trust in the papers today
    "Middle Ireland fights back"

    Since when does anyone in middle Ireland owe €7m in the Commercial Court for a 120-acre stud farm.

    *Memories of the Killiney eviction*


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    #1184
    moyners
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    Cody Pomeray wrote: »
    "Middle Ireland fights back"

    Since when does anyone in middle Ireland owe €7m in the Commercial Court for a 120-acre stud farm.

    *Memories of the Killiney eviction*

    Story is up on thejournal.ie with some photos. Comments should be interesting :D

    Also, in photo 2 of that story there's a picture from behind of two men wearing fluorescent bibs with "Tyranny Response Team" on them. It's labelled "two local men" but the guy on the right is the spit of Ben Gilroy I reckon.

    http://www.thejournal.ie/repossession-kennycourt-stud-farm-1059155-Aug2013/#slide-slideshow2


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    #1185
    Fred Swanson
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    #1186
    john junior
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    It was Ben Gilroy

    Very interesting to see how this plays out this is not like any of the other mickey mouse stints pulled before they have to take the trust to court not the individual involved that's the key difference this time compared to before


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    #1187
    littlemac1980
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    moyners wrote: »
    http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/middle-ireland-fights-back-241354.html

    The Rodolphus Allen Trust in the papers today

    Here's a report from the Journal as to what they report actually transpired:

    http://www.thejournal.ie/repossession-kennycourt-stud-farm-1059155-Aug2013/

    There appear to be big differences in the details of what actually occurred here, and I'm surprised by that to be honest.


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    johnnyskeleton
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    Fred Swanson wrote: »
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    The next logical step is for the bank to apply for attachment and committal. I assume that is what they mean by "another high court order" rather than the freeman interpretation that there was a problem with the first order and it needs to be remade.


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    #1189
    jd
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    john junior wrote: »
    they have to take the trust to court not the individual involved that's the key difference this time compared to before
    Really..?


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    #1190
    Robbo
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    Interestingly, the Acorn to Oak lot who are opposed to the property tax have gone and enlisted real solicitors (and ones who'd be quite experienced with the JR process at that) and they've been assigned a Supreme Court reference.


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    #1191
    schemingbohemia
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    Should this whole thread not be in conspiracy theories?


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    #1192
    Grolschevik
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    schemingbohemia wrote: »
    Should this whole thread not be in conspiracy theories?

    It's kept here as a sort of educational service for those who occasionally come on here asking whether any of these crackpot interpretations hold legal water.

    Also, it's fun!


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    #1193
    littlemac1980
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    Grolschevik wrote: »
    It's kept here as a sort of educational service for those who occasionally come on here asking whether any of these crackpot interpretations hold legal water.

    Also, it's fun!

    And for Quarantine purposes.


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    Robbo
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    Grolschevik wrote: »
    It's kept here as a sort of educational service for those who occasionally come on here asking whether any of these crackpot interpretations hold legal water.

    Also, it's fun!
    On the educational aspect, this thread appears right at the top when you google "Rodolphus Allen Trust" so hopefully someone in a bad situation can be saved a few quid and a lot of heartache.

    Saw this in today's Independent and it has the usual ingredients; the lengthy meandering affidavits, the unspecified allegations of fraud and she wants €2m for defamation.


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    Technoprisoner
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    seen this today... they seem to be doing something that is making life difficult for receivers

    http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/middle-ireland-fights-back-241354.html


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    Fred Swanson
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    Technoprisoner
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    Fred Swanson wrote: »
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    its dated 29th


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    Fred Swanson
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    hullaballoo
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    Fred Swanson wrote: »
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    Lol we're like a club! "The Lumberjacks - cutting down the oaks since before they were acorns."


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    Robbo
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    hullaballoo wrote: »
    Lol we're like a club! "The Lumberjacks - cutting down the oaks since before they were acorns."
    "Oh I'm a Lumberjack and I'm Ok, I sleep all night and I chastise Freemen all day."


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    Losty Dublin
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    Robbo wrote: »
    "Oh I'm a Lumberjack and I'm Ok, I sleep all night and I chastise Freemen all day."

    I use blue ink, I skip bank fees; my law's the Admiralty's;
    On Wednesday I piss off judges and all strawmen, you see :)


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