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What's your family won lately?
ouch
the post did remind me of the retirement of Alec Stewart, the english cricket player. the uk press gave a lot of coverage of his career, all the stuff you would expect.
the Australian press referred to him instead as "Englands most defeated cricketer"
anyway, i am sure mortimer will return, managment and cb have said the door is open. his family, though, seem miffed
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/mortimer-family-horan-destroyed-conors-confidence-200665.htmlMortimer family: Horan destroyed Conor’s confidence
By Terry Reilly
Friday, July 13, 2012
The family of former Mayo player Conor Mortimer released a stinging criticism of county manager James Horan last night.
The all-time leading scorer in Mayo history, just one game shy of his 100th appearance for the county, quit the team on Tuesday after not being named in the starting team for the Connacht final against Sligo.
James Horan told the Irish Examiner the door would always be open for players showing good club form, but all hopes of that would appear to be shattered following a family statement, which was read out on Midwest Radio’s Sports Talkshop last night, accusing the manager of destroying their sibling’s confidence.
"Conor lived for Mayo football all his life," the statement read.
"He began his inter-county career in the Ted Webb Competition and suffered numerous injuries over the years. Both of his brothers, Kenneth and Trevor, played for the county also and suffered injuries, like Conor over the years. They are 100% behind his decision.
"The family feel that Conor, Kenneth and Trevor owe nothing to Mayo football. Conor is a colourful character and made many friends and some enemies over the years while playing.
"Conor was out of football for 12 months last year with a knee injury. The manager James Horan never contacted him to see how he was coming along.
"When he returned to football, he was playing super football for his club Shrule/Glencorrib. James Horan was notified of a game he would be playing in, but did not attend.
"The family feel that Conor wasn’t wanted in the team. He says that every time Conor was dropped James Horan told him he had a new plan, in that he had found two goal-scoring forwards. However, the Mortimer family feel that plan has not materialised.
"Conor was playing well in A v B games in training of late and two former Mayo managers saw him and can’t understand why he wasn’t picked.
"He scored 0-8 against Dublin in the league in Castlebar and was man of the match in that game, which was well deserved. He was dropped two weeks later for the Kerry game and only played for 10-15 minutes of it.
"He was dropped again from the starting 15 for the Leitrim game because of this plan referred to by the manager. He is currently fourth choice as a corner forward and it has destroyed his confidence.
"He wasn’t happy with the way football was being played in the Mayo camp."
The family also accused Horan of ignoring their club and believed Conor had at least another three years left in him at inter-county level.
"When the previous manager was in charge, there were four Shrule/Glencorrib players on the panel. Now there are none.
"Mark Ronaldson was another example from last season – he was playing well and was dropped from the panel.
"In the last seven or eight Connacht finals that Mayo were involved in, Conor was top scorer in six of them. He is the all-time leading scorer in Mayo. He feels he has another three years of top-level football in him, but has made his decision and his family are behind him.
"Football was his life and he was never found wanting. He always made himself available to the media, but now all he wants is his privacy and integrity protected.
"His family are extremely happy with his achievements and are very proud of him and have always been 100% behind him and remain so."
The timing of the statement, two days before a Connacht final against Sligo, is likely to have massive repercussions within the county.
The fact that Conor’s brothers Kenneth and Trevor — who both captained Mayo in the past — were attributed with the statement will add to the intrigue in the coming days.0 -
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Brain Stroking wrote: »I think that the family used the Shrule lads to bolster their argument more than anything which is especially cringeworthy. If the welfare of Shrule is a Mortimer family concern then why let Kenneth leave Shrule all those years ago to go down the road to play for Claremorris (notwithstanding the sweetener he received to do so)? Or allow Conor to leave these lads and go play in Dublin?
As a Mayoman i find all this embarrassing and symptomatic of why we win bugger all. Too many lads in our county think they are premier league footballers the moment they make the Mayo squad. "Releasing statements" - who do these people think they are? Mort has zero All-Irelands in a county with no all-irelands since 1951. Needs to realise no one in the real world gives a crap about why he left or his thoughts on things. If he's not there he's irrelevant. Lets move on
I agree, any other player would have waited until the match was over before making their intentions known but not the Mort, the man had to make a proper exit and now the whole county is on about him. I think the players will be bemused more than anything else but it's still a distraction that could be done without.
In fairness to the Mortimers they have a nice share of All-Stars between them but the amount of All-Irelands they have lost on all levels easily goes into double figures. As for an anti-shrule bias? 0 -
Defiler Of The Coffin wrote: »I agree, any other player would have waited until the match was over before making their intentions known but not the Mort, the man had to make a proper exit and now the whole county is on about him. I think the players will be bemused more than anything else but it's still a distraction that could be done without.
In fairness to the Mortimers they have a nice share of All-Stars between them but the amount of All-Irelands they have lost on all levels easily goes into double figures. As for an anti-shrule bias?
No anti-Shrule bias here i promise, a small club packed with good footballers.
I know Mort. I also know that this wont be a hammer-blow to the squad. He isnt the easiest to get on with and can be a bully to some quieter younger members of squads.
When Mort was 15 i'd defy anyone to show me a better player at that age at that time. he was unreal. He never delivered on that promise regardless of being Mayo's Top Scorer, All-Star in 2006 etc. He never really did it when it counted and i'm talking about the Minor Semi and Final in 2000, All-Ireland U-21 Final in 2001, 2004 and 2006 All-Irelands etc. Those are the hard facts0 -
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RoscommonTom wrote: »He was savage for jarleths but his head got too big for his boots not long after, we will take him off Ye, would make up for the balla fellas Ye ste:)aled from us
Sure if ye took him Tom his head would explode given all the overhyping the Rossies tend to do when they find a forward that can kick a ball straight 0 -
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Defiler Of The Coffin wrote: »I agree, any other player would have waited until the match was over before making their intentions known but not the Mort, the man had to make a proper exit and now the whole county is on about him. I think the players will be bemused more than anything else but it's still a distraction that could be done without.
In fairness to the Mortimers they have a nice share of All-Stars between them but the amount of All-Irelands they have lost on all levels easily goes into double figures. As for an anti-shrule bias?
Looking from the outside,I think if any sentance sums up 'the Mort' and ( judging by the recent statment to the nation) the Mortimer familys overall attitude, it's all about him (them?) as individuals and not about the team or how they fit in to a bigger scheme. The 'statement' is an embarrasment and I surely would have thought there was 1 person in a family that has ran their own business that would have been smart enough to see how cringeworthy it is (horrid craic to look at from the outside though). The retirement and statement IMO is designed to pile as much pressure on Horan and the newer Mayo corner forwards as possible.
I've always got the impresson that Horan didn't fancy him as a player, be that right or wrong. Mayo have failed at the highest level with 'the Mort' as the star man, and to paraphrase Einstien's famous quote about insanity, would you really fancy managing a Mayo team in an AI semi final or final built aroung Conereen. It hasn't worked in the past so they have to look somewhere else long term.
For the record, i fancy mayo to win on Sunday by about 4. They have a tougher streak in them under Horan and (win or lose Sunday) will be in or very near the semi finals again this year.0 -
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