Mayo GAA Discussion Thread

Flange/Flanders

Any generous benefactor want to stump up a couple of hundred grand to try and tempt pearse hanley to come home for a year

Is there any other forwards in the county? Can the minors make the step up? In fairness, AOS & COC made the step up the year after minor. Interesting to see if the likes of Irwin, Coen, Conroy, Plunkett, O'Connor junior and Hanley Junior are up to it?

Hopefully McLoughlin can rediscover his form. Think he's an absolutely class player but his form and confidence seem to have dipped drastically this year.

MaroonAndGreen

Flange/Flanders wrote: »

Any generous benefactor want to stump up a couple of hundred grand to try and tempt pearse hanley to come home for a year

Is there any other forwards in the county? Can the minors make the step up? In fairness, AOS & COC made the step up the year after minor. Interesting to see if the likes of Irwin, Coen, Conroy, Plunkett, O'Connor junior and Hanley Junior are up to it?

Hopefully McLoughlin can rediscover his form. Think he's an absolutely class player but his form and confidence seem to have dipped drastically this year.

I think Conroy is the only forward from that Minor team that has a chance of turning out to be good enough for Inter County football, and he is much too light to be given an opportunity yet

realweirdo

naughto wrote: »

i dont no where you came out of realweirdo but would u ever piss off back tothe hole that you came out off.
every post that you have made since the defeat has be negative to wards mayo/horan any one envolved.
we are all hurting here there is no need to keep say how bad this player was or what horan should have done we cannot change what happened nor will you typing all that crap

Get a grip FFS...look back over my posts, I highlighted several positives in Mayo football so cut the lies...I also highlighted several negatives...you convienently ignored the positives while you played to the gallery...

Yes, I have criticised Horan, I make no bones about that. I'm not going to say he had a great performance yesterday, how he's a great manager in the same league as Mickey Harte...he's not or nowhere near Harte who is/was a brilliant manager and just happens to be rebuilding at the moment.

No-one wants Mayo to win more than me, so again cut your stupid nonsense. How do you think Man Utd came to dominate the English game in the last 20 years? It's because of Fergie's hairdryer treatment of certain underperforming players, and also the massively high standards he sets.

If Mayo players, management and supporters like you cannot take criticism on board like adults then we are faced with a situation where we repeat the same mistakes over and over and Mayo certainly won't win Sam McGuire in any of our lifetimes.

So like I said grow up and stop whinging everytime someone criticises Mayo. It's not negative, it's being analytical, something you know nothing about. The fact that you try like a lot of Mayo supporters to shut down the debate as soon as any criticism of the team or management is brought up is simply not helpful. There always needs to be a post match analysis of where things went wrong. Saying we were great, no problems etc, might be popular with some people, but it doesn't cut it with me or other serious Mayo supporters either.

Fr Tod Umptious

realweirdo wrote: »

Get a grip FFS...look back over my posts, I highlighted several positives in Mayo football so cut the lies...I also highlighted several negatives...you convienently ignored the positives while you played to the gallery...

Yes, I have criticised Horan, I make no bones about that. I'm not going to say he had a great performance yesterday, how he's a great manager in the same league as Mickey Harte...he's not or nowhere near Harte who is/was a brilliant manager and just happens to be rebuilding at the moment.

No-one wants Mayo to win more than me, so again cut your stupid nonsense. How do you think Man Utd came to dominate the English game in the last 20 years? It's because of Fergie's hairdryer treatment of certain underperforming players, and also the massively high standards he sets.

If Mayo players, management and supporters like you cannot take criticism on board like adults then we are faced with a situation where we repeat the same mistakes over and over and Mayo certainly won't win Sam McGuire in any of our lifetimes.

So like I said grow up and stop whinging everytime someone criticises Mayo. It's not negative, it's being analytical, something you know nothing about. The fact that you try like a lot of Mayo supporters to shut down the debate as soon as any criticism of the team or management is brought up is simply not helpful. There always needs to be a post match analysis of where things went wrong. Saying we were great, no problems etc, might be popular with some people, but it doesn't cut it with me or other serious Mayo supporters either.

Can you quit with the Man Utd analogies please, they just do not translate to Mayo GAA

realweirdo

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Can you quit with the Man Utd analogies please, they just do not translate to Mayo GAA

Sport is sport...winning is winning. I can use any analagy you want, but generally its a good idea to aspire to best practice in most walks of life. If players, Gaelic, soccer, rugby, or in any sport underperform, they need to be called out on it.

I have a feeling its a bit of a waste of time where Mayo is concerned. There is simply no appetite to learn from mistakes, only to repeat them. And any attempt at analysis is immediately shut down from the usual quarters. This is why there will be no Sam for Mayo for the foreseeable future. I'd love to believe otherwise but I'm wise enough to know better.

MaroonAndGreen

realweirdo wrote: »

Sport is sport...winning is winning. I can use any analagy you want, but generally its a good idea to aspire to best practice in most walks of life. If players, Gaelic, soccer, rugby, or in any sport underperform, they need to be called out on it.

I have a feeling its a bit of a waste of time where Mayo is concerned. There is simply no appetite to learn from mistakes, only to repeat them. And any attempt at analysis is immediately shut down from the usual quarters. This is why there will be no Sam for Mayo for the foreseeable future. I'd love to believe otherwise but I'm wise enough to know better.

Your not wise, your username tells what you are im afraid

realweirdo

MaroonAndGreen wrote: »

Your not wise, your username tells what you are im afraid

It's just a username ffs...Are you painted maroonandgreen right now?

Like I said I'm wasting my time on here with some posters who try to block out any form of analysis. That's been a long standing problem with Mayo football, an inability to learn from mistakes and its why there will be many more losing AI final appearances, due in part to the fact that some people try to shut down debates around criticising certain aspects of Mayos play.

See you all next year in any case as we discuss Mayo losing yet again due to the same mistakes.

Goodbye.

MaroonAndGreen

realweirdo wrote: »

It's just a username ffs...Are you painted maroonandgreen right now?

Like I said I'm wasting my time on here with some posters who try to block out any form of analysis. That's been a long standing problem with Mayo football, an inability to learn from mistakes and its why there will be many more losing AI final appearances, due in part to the fact that some people try to shut down debates around criticising certain aspects of Mayos play.

See you all next year in any case as we discuss Mayo losing yet again due to the same mistakes.

Goodbye.

GOODBYE

tacofries

Saddened at the match as with 20 mins to go we really had a chance...

I can't blame the management as basic stuff such as passing, accuracy,the running man and vision, which we were so good at all year, was lacking from a lot of our players (midfield to forwards). It was all these little things that ultimately killed us. This wasnt managements fault but instead the individual players falling victim to nerves on the day.

I am thankful to the lads for giving us such a great year with many good days out. Hopefully next year we'll do equally, if not better, as well!!

naughto

realweirdo wrote: »

It's just a username ffs...Are you painted maroonandgreen right now?

Like I said I'm wasting my time on here with some posters who try to block out any form of analysis. That's been a long standing problem with Mayo football, an inability to learn from mistakes and its why there will be many more losing AI final appearances, due in part to the fact that some people try to shut down debates around criticising certain aspects of Mayos play.

See you all next year in any case as we discuss Mayo losing yet again due to the same mistakes.

Goodbye.

dont 4 get to close the door after you

stdidit

A lot of criticism on here for Horan, and while there was a few questionable decisions yesterday, I think overall he deserves immense credit for what he has done with Mayo football in the past three years. He has helped develop us into one of the best teams in the country and has given us some great days out. We have the best defense out there at the minute, something to be proud of, but, as people on here have pointed out, and I tend to agree with them, we are missing that marquee forward that could see us go all the way.

Freeman coming off yesterday certainly didn't help. Andy Moran did score 1-2 but he's too slow since returning from his injury and he cant be first choice anymore. I dont know what to say about Dillon, there is no doubt hes got plenty of talent and he has been a great servant to Mayo football but he has never produced on All Ireland final day and that's a real shame. McLoughlin is still young and he will come good again.

I think Horan himself is the only man to decide whether he stays or goes, only he will know if he has the will and determination to go on from here. If he does stay then I think he should be committing for at least two years as I think it could well be a two year project to getting back to the final and hopefully we can hold onto Buckley as he has made a big difference. I've no doubt that yesterday was supposed to be the crowning moment of Horans tenure and the loss will be a major setback to him and the players, a lot worse than last years loss. I think it will be a massive job to pick the players up and get them focused on next year and what lies ahead but saying that I have no doubt but we will be back.

overshoot

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Can you quit with the Man Utd analogies please, they just do not translate to Mayo GAA

i dunno might be worth pointing out fergie took over in 1986 and it was 1990 before the won anything at all! the blow dryer must have taken a while to heat up.

personally id go with taco fries analysis, doesnt matter what tactics you have, mayos biggest failure on the day was doing the basics and no gameplan will compensate for that

YouTookMyName

The mentality is the biggest problem.

Trying to get a group of mayo men not to shít themselves on the 3rd Sunday in September is the biggest challenge.

Horan should draft a few sports physiologists.

Audioslaven

YouTookMyName wrote: »

The mentality is the biggest problem.

Trying to get a group of mayo men not to shít themselves on the 3rd Sunday in September is the biggest challenge.

Horan should draft a few sports physiologists.

Mayo did not **** themselves yesterday ffs. Quit that stupid ****. You just look like a fool with comments like that. They just lack a little bit of quality in the forward line. That was the difference in the end. We were unlucky that freeman had to go off but apparently he had flu.

I hope Horan waits as he knows mayo football really well. If he goes, he thinks Mayo are not going to win SAM with this panel. If he waits, he thinks there is an All ireland in them. Also who do we get instead of him... liam big mouth Mchale, John look at me Maughan .
Some of the posters need a nine inch root...

Any truth to the rumor that Feeney was not played by Horan due to a pre-match bust up after Feeney made his own travel arrangements and travelled by car instead of the team bus(out of necessity) ?

Feeney would of been worth a couple of points yesterday in the half forwards, including preventing some of those kickouts to the Dublin half backs. Feeney should of took the position of the clubmate of Horans that went missing yesterday(again).

Royal Legend

As a Meath football fan, I am Genuinely sad for Mayo, I really thought this was their year, you have an excellent Manager. A few things went against you yesterday, I think injuries played a big part in the lead up to the final and Higgins having to be moved into the backs in the second half
Mayo have brought football to a different level over the last two years, especially the art of defending.

Bleating Lamb

Was at game yday and am wondering still why Higgins was moved back into full back line when he had being well involved in game in first half??....did I miss something,wasn't home in time to see highlights.

copacetic

Bleating Lamb wrote: »

Was at game yday and am wondering still why Higgins was moved back into full back line when he had being well involved in game in first half??....did I miss something,wasn't home in time to see highlights.

O'Gara won pretty much every ball hit toward him once he came on for Mannion. They decided to move Higgins back to mark him. He did better on him, but Mayo seriously lost out up front with the move.

MaroonAndGreen

Bleating Lamb wrote: »

Was at game yday and am wondering still why Higgins was moved back into full back line when he had being well involved in game in first half??....did I miss something,wasn't home in time to see highlights.

Tom Cunniffe went off injured so Higgins moved to corner back with Carolan coming on in the half forward line

tacofries

oh and did anyone else question that hawk eye miss at the start of the match ? Going by the photo it looked like it was in imo!

Barlett

This was the original shot we all saw, then when the angle swung round it was a miss

tacofries

any photos of the angle swung around? I just cant see how it was a miss going by that photo!

Utopia Parkway

YouTookMyName wrote: »

Horan should draft a few sports physiologists.

They already have one.

Peanut Butter Jelly

It was clarified as a miss because the ball passed through the extended line of the post. If the ball was 3 or 4 metres lower, it would have hit the post and come back out into the field of play and wouldn't have been a point. Therefore just because it was above the top of the post, it can't be awarded as a point. For Hawk Eye to award the point, the whole of the ball must pass inside the whole of the blue line, just like a ball has to pass within the whole of the posts to a score a point normally.

Pappa Charlie

Mayo simply did not have the forwards and until they have the likes of Padraic Joyce, Ja Fallon and Michael donnellan they won't get over the line

MaroonAndGreen

Pappa Charlie wrote: »

Mayo simply did not have the forwards and until they have the likes of Padraic Joyce, Ja Fallon and Michael donnellan they won't get over the line

Not you again...

Gerry91

Bleating Lamb wrote: »

Was at game yday and am wondering still why Higgins was moved back into full back line when he had being well involved in game in first half??....did I miss something,wasn't home in time to see highlights.

Would've preferred Keane coming on. If he was good enough to start 12 months earlier... Anyhow hindsight is great

But you're right we seriously missed his influence in the forwards. I really, really hope he's used at 11 next year as he has the potential to cause serious damage running at defences.

Still gutted- it'll take a while to get over this one indeed

john mayo 10

Great turn out in c/bar y/day evening. seniors lads were very dissapointed. They seem hellbent on giving it a good lash next year again.this team are as close to an all ireland as we have ever been since 51

lukin

john mayo 10 wrote: »

Great turn out in c/bar y/day evening. seniors lads were very dissapointed. They seem hellbent on giving it a good lash next year again.this team are as close to an all ireland as we have ever been since 51

Fair play to you for going. Homecomings for defeated finalists are always a depressing affair. Being a Cork football fan I should know .

ultrapercy

john mayo 10 wrote: »

Great turn out in c/bar y/day evening. seniors lads were very dissapointed. They seem hellbent on giving it a good lash next year again.this team are as close to an all ireland as we have ever been since 51

Despite the lack of quality in Mayo forward line they still would have won this All Ireland had they not conceded 2 soft goals. The loss of Clarke through injury was a huge blow to Mayos chances. If you gift 4 goals to the opposition in 2 AI finals you need forwards who can get you 13 points to cancel them out and Mayo don't have that.