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Winter 2011/2012
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I remember you cursing the easterlies last winter, and saying how you'd prefer a good atlantic storm to the non stop bluer skies, whiter clouds and sweeter tone. I was gonna mention it then but that would've been rubbing salt in your wounds while we were enjoying snowmegeddon .
But joking aside I wholeheartedly agree with you, there's something special about those easterlies, no matter what they bring.
Last winter believe it or not saw very few continental sourced easterlies, most of the east winds we got during the last big cold spell were sourced more to our north or northeast and generally were nothing more than a modified, returning mP, or at best, a much modified cP air masses. My 'preferred' easterly type is more sourced in central or even southern Europe, a completely different kettle of fish (don't know what that really means but hear it used a lot) altogether.
Don't get me wrong, I will embrace any big storm that comes our way, or big monster Atlantic showers that just don't seem to happen anymore. It is just the in between that I cannot abide, so if it is going to fine weather, let it be from the east.
PS, we did get snowmegadden here too, both from the north and from the east. so there!
but yep, I agree, there is something special about them, hopefully well see more of them in all seasons from this point onwards. 0 -
Deep Easterly wrote: »Last winter believe it or not saw very few continental sourced easterlies, most of the east winds we got during the last big cold spell were sourced more to our north or northeast and generally were nothing more than a modified, returning mP, or at best, a much modified cP air masses. My 'preferred' easterly type is more sourced in central or even southern Europe, a completely different kettle of fish (don't know what that really means but hear it used a lot) altogether.
Don't get me wrong, I will embrace any big storm that comes our way, or big monster Atlantic showers that just don't seem to happen anymore. It is just the in between that I cannot abide, so if it is going to fine weather, let it be from the east.
PS, we did get snowmegadden here too, both from the north and from the east. so there! but yep, I agree, there is something special about them, hopefully well see more of them in all seasons from this point onwards.
Touché. I overlooked the deepness of your preferred easterlies, thanks for clarifying :P
I'm not so picky though. They all float my kettle of fish, if you catch my drift
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Yeah, in April and May usuallyDeep Easterly wrote: »The best weather we get in the west is nearly always via a southeast/east continental flow, hence my username! 0 -
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Mark Vogan has said that there will be a colder climate by 23rd-25th hitting UK.
http://markvoganweather.blogspot.com/p/uk-europe.html
Thats a big IF right there... i still see the atlantic being in charge at that time
I watched his youtube video for this... ya think record through a proper camera and in some decent lighting wouldnt ya think?! haa... its hard enough to understand him with his accent let alone hear through the background noise! ha.... Think he got his tips from Michael Fish! haha :rolleyes:0 -
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Musicman2000 wrote: »Mt just posted this update over on Netweather
Developments so far are generally positive from my perspective, and point to the potential for major cold and snow around mid-January after a few less robust efforts likely in December.
The "cold pole" is definitely over on the Pacific side of the hemisphere at present, but that has its benefits for later cold on your side, since there is a more accommodating region over this way to create significant arctic high pressure. Then what is needed is some mechanism to push that over the pole towards north-central Russia where it can begin to influence Scandinavia. I foresee that being the general outcome over 30-60 days as retrogression begins to develop in December, then height building follows in western North America (right now we have a raging subarctic jet coming in here and it's cold/moist).
So like I said originally, patience -- this winter won't all come and go before New Years, in fact, it might not even start really until after New Years, with one possible exception, I think about one week of December will be wintry and that most likely around 15th to 21st give or take a few days.
So the bottom line remains this -- there seems to be a very good chance for major winter weather to come in January, and if that turns out to be too fast then February has been known to be just as good if not better, but personally I am still thinking January is "the" month.
so happy!
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Heres the Met UK outlook
UK Outlook for Monday 21 Nov 2011 to Wednesday 30 Nov 2011:
Starting mild and unsettled in the western half of the UK, where spells of rain will occasionally turn heavy, particularly over southwest-facing slopes in the northwest. The rain will be coupled with gales in parts of the west, perhaps severe gales in some northwestern areas at times. The east should experience drier, brighter conditions at first, with a risk of some fog in the mornings, and chilly overnight temperatures. The milder but unsettled conditions in the west may make inroads east at times, however. By the second week, westerly winds should spread east, giving largely unsettled weather across all parts. Temperatures will fall to near-normal, with an increased incidence of overnight frosts and a heightened snow risk for Scottish mountains.
Updated: 1120 on Wed 16 Nov 2011
UK Outlook for Wednesday 30 Nov 2011 to Wednesday 14 Dec 2011:
The first half of December should see some rather unsettled and changeable weather, particularly towards the north and west. Total precipitation amounts are likely to be close to or above the seasonal average, whilst some snow is likely on high ground in the northern half of the UK. Temperatures are expected to be around average but, at this time of year, that typically means single-figure degrees Celsius maxima and an increasing chance of overnight frosts. A few milder days are still possible, chiefly in the west at first, but on the whole it will feel significantly colder than during the recent mild spell.
Heres the outlook from this week last year (Sorry I couldnt help myself for nostalgia reasons )
UK Outlook for Monday 22 Nov 2010 to Wednesday 1 Dec 2010:
A generally unsettled and chilly start with clear or sunny spells, but also with showers, particularly in the east, where some longer spells of rain are also possible. Showers wintry over hills. It will soon turn colder into next week with showers turning increasingly wintry to lower levels with a risk of some significant accumulations of snow in northern and eastern parts. Temperatures below average for the time of year with an increasing risk of overnight frost and icy surfaces, especially where skies clear. Feeling cold in the often fresh and mainly northeasterly wind. The cold theme then continues through to the beginning of December, with northern and eastern parts most at risk from wintry weather.
Updated: 1212 on Wed 17 Nov 2010
UK Outlook for Thursday 2 Dec 2010 to Thursday 16 Dec 2010:
It is expected to remain cold across much of the UK, with precipitation amounts around average, or slightly below, throughout the period. Northeasterly winds could bring wintry showers to northern and eastern areas at times. Amounts of sunshine should be above average away from northern and eastern coasts where it is likely to be cloudier. Temperatures are likely to be below average across the country, with frosty nights and the possibility of some wintry precipitation at times for most areas.
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/uk_forecast_weather.html0 -
Heres the Met UK outlook
UK Outlook for Monday 21 Nov 2011 to Wednesday 30 Nov 2011:
Starting mild and unsettled in the western half of the UK, where spells of rain will occasionally turn heavy, particularly over southwest-facing slopes in the northwest. The rain will be coupled with gales in parts of the west, perhaps severe gales in some northwestern areas at times. The east should experience drier, brighter conditions at first, with a risk of some fog in the mornings, and chilly overnight temperatures. The milder but unsettled conditions in the west may make inroads east at times, however. By the second week, westerly winds should spread east, giving largely unsettled weather across all parts. Temperatures will fall to near-normal, with an increased incidence of overnight frosts and a heightened snow risk for Scottish mountains.
Updated: 1120 on Wed 16 Nov 2011
UK Outlook for Wednesday 30 Nov 2011 to Wednesday 14 Dec 2011:
The first half of December should see some rather unsettled and changeable weather, particularly towards the north and west. Total precipitation amounts are likely to be close to or above the seasonal average, whilst some snow is likely on high ground in the northern half of the UK. Temperatures are expected to be around average but, at this time of year, that typically means single-figure degrees Celsius maxima and an increasing chance of overnight frosts. A few milder days are still possible, chiefly in the west at first, but on the whole it will feel significantly colder than during the recent mild spell.
Heres the outlook from this week last year (Sorry I couldnt help myself for nostalgia reasons )
I thought it was this year for a minute:) but still signs of cold0 -
Heres the Met UK outlook
UK Outlook for Monday 21 Nov 2011 to Wednesday 30 Nov 2011:
Starting mild and unsettled in the western half of the UK, where spells of rain will occasionally turn heavy, particularly over southwest-facing slopes in the northwest. The rain will be coupled with gales in parts of the west, perhaps severe gales in some northwestern areas at times. The east should experience drier, brighter conditions at first, with a risk of some fog in the mornings, and chilly overnight temperatures. The milder but unsettled conditions in the west may make inroads east at times, however. By the second week, westerly winds should spread east, giving largely unsettled weather across all parts. Temperatures will fall to near-normal, with an increased incidence of overnight frosts and a heightened snow risk for Scottish mountains.
Updated: 1120 on Wed 16 Nov 2011
UK Outlook for Wednesday 30 Nov 2011 to Wednesday 14 Dec 2011:
The first half of December should see some rather unsettled and changeable weather, particularly towards the north and west. Total precipitation amounts are likely to be close to or above the seasonal average, whilst some snow is likely on high ground in the northern half of the UK. Temperatures are expected to be around average but, at this time of year, that typically means single-figure degrees Celsius maxima and an increasing chance of overnight frosts. A few milder days are still possible, chiefly in the west at first, but on the whole it will feel significantly colder than during the recent mild spell.
Heres the outlook from this week last year (Sorry I couldnt help myself for nostalgia reasons )
admit it. you've been looking at your pictures of last December with a sad face lately:p
it looks like Roger J Smith's update was timely!0 -
nacho libre wrote: »admit it. you've been looking at your pictures of last December with a sad face lately:p
it looks like Roger J Smith's update was timely!
Ive been doing that for the past 11 months nacho! :pac:
Just realised musicman2000s quote post was a quote from MT Things look promising.
Still I would prefer it at Christmas time though :pac: (Sorry I am being picky :P)0 -
Here's some stunning winter images to the music Winter Song. Probably taken in America somewhere.
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