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A majority of Americans now say marijuana should be made legal, with far fewer viewing it as a gateway to harder drugs or as morally wrong, according to a poll released Thursday by the Pew Research Cente
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2013/04/04/legalize-it-poll-shows/0 -
For Pro-Cannabis people how exactly would you regulate the drug?
Would it be made available for prescription only like Valium or would you be able to walk into a shop & buy it like you would a 6 pack?0 -
For Pro-Cannabis people how exactly would you regulate the drug?
Would it be made available for prescription only like Valium or would you be able to walk into a shop & buy it like you would a 6 pack?
Maybe in the same way two other very dangerous legal drugs, cigarettes and alcohol, are regulated ! :eek:0 -
For Pro-Cannabis people how exactly would you regulate the drug?
Would it be made available for prescription only like Valium or would you be able to walk into a shop & buy it like you would a 6 pack?
Both. If it's being prescribed by a doctor then it should be available in a pharmacy like any other drug and available on the medical card etc...
If it's to be legalized as a recreational drug, then I'd say special licensed premises. But I'd restrict the license to those that have no criminal record and it would have to be approved by the gardai. that's just to try and stop organised crime from moving into it.0 -
In terms of regulation - I'd propose making it available in pharmacies for medical use and have it available for recreational use also in dedicated premises.
But - as a revenue generating tool for the government, I would propose that anyone wanting to buy it recreationally needs to apply for a licence of sorts.
Person needs to get a medical from a doctor, and then submit the report with some variety of form to the govt with a fee of say 100 euro applied to make one eligible to buy it. Simply because if every weed user heard that they could get it legally and safely, with stuff grown to an acceptable standard, they'd all pay this fee. It would be a nice little earner for the government.0 -
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Would a tax on it not be easier and make more money?genericguy wrote: »In terms of regulation - I'd propose making it available in pharmacies for medical use and have it available for recreational use also in dedicated premises.
But - as a revenue generating tool for the government, I would propose that anyone wanting to buy it recreationally needs to apply for a licence of sorts.
Person needs to get a medical from a doctor, and then submit the report with some variety of form to the govt with a fee of say 100 euro applied to make one eligible to buy it. Simply because if every weed user heard that they could get it legally and safely, with stuff grown to an acceptable standard, they'd all pay this fee. It would be a nice little earner for the government.0 -
Dont forget it is a weed that is super easy to grow, if you got it started in your geeen house you could not stop it, just legalise it and have growing licences for a reasonable fee each year.0
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For Pro-Cannabis people how exactly would you regulate the drug?
Would it be made available for prescription only like Valium or would you be able to walk into a shop & buy it like you would a 6 pack?
http://www.oregonlive.com/health/index.ssf/2013/03/medical_marijuana_colorados_na.html
DENVER, Colo. -- State enforcement officers can inspect John Fritzel's business without warning or permission. They can pore over his books, check his $50,000 security system and add up his inventory. Before Fritzel set up shop in 2011, investigators checked the Iowa native's background and dug into his finances.
No fewer than four city agencies inspected Fritzel's business, Lightshade Labs, before he opened. The state has visited five times.
Welcome to medical marijuana, Colorado-style.
Though medical marijuana is legal in 18 states and Washington, D.C., none regulates the business of medical marijuana more tightly than Colorado, which collected $5.4 million in sales taxes last year from the industry.
In Oregon, medical marijuana patients may grow their own cannabis or have someone do it for them, at or below cost. Retail businesses, though numerous, occupy a gray area of state law. No one inspects grow sites or regulates dispensaries, much less audits their books.
Colorado allows commercial production of medical marijuana and monitors it at every stage: from large-scale cultivation facilities, to makers of marijuana-infused foods, to the 500 retail outlets where the drug is sold. The seed-to-sale monitoring system is seen as a model for how to regulate recreational marijuana, which Colorado voters approved last November.
As Oregon lawmakers weigh whether and how to regulate access to medical marijuana, Colorado's experiment offers one potential road map for navigating an industry as complex and controversial as cannabis.
"Colorado has no peer at the moment regarding a regulated cannabis system," said Allen St. Pierre, executive director of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws, the country's oldest marijuana legalization organization.
Medical Marijuana
Continuing coverage of medical marijuana by The Oregonian's Noelle Crombie.
Many people in the business of supplying medical marijuana to patients say they're happy to follow Colorado's strict standards, seeing compliance as a mark of legitimacy. But the system has its limitations.
A top official with the state's medical marijuana enforcement division, charged with ensuring compliance with 72 pages of state rules, said his agency is underfunded and overwhelmed.
Colorado's highly regulated production and distribution system hasn't eliminated a problem documented in The Oregonian's 2012 investigation of medical marijuana in Oregon: diversion to the black market. A federal survey last year found 70 instances of Colorado medical marijuana trafficked to nearly two dozen states around the country in 2011 and early 2012.
Ernie Martinez, president of the Colorado Drug Investigators Association, said the state "is doing what they can with what they have," but it's not enough.
"As it is now," Martinez said, "it's an honor system essentially."
Farm to table
Lightshade Labs, a dispensary in an industrial area of Denver that serves as many as 250 people a day, bustled on a recent morning.
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Once customers with state-issued medical marijuana cards check in with a receptionist, they step into a waiting room. It's similar to a doctor's office, except the walls feature posters promoting the vintage pulp novel "Marijuana Girl" and the Cheech and Chong film "Up in Smoke."
A half-dozen men in their 20s wait to be called into a room where they will meet with a "budtender," the person who helps patients choose the strain and form of marijuana they'll buy.
Clear boxes contain packaged marijuana, candies, marijuana oil, baked goods with names such as Chronic Crispies and hundreds of rolled joints. Hip-hop plays. SportsCenter flickers on a 50-inch screen over a counter that looks like a bar. Patrons peruse the strains, place orders and walk to another counter where their marijuana is placed in white bags with the words, "Your drug store."
Labels on each package show the operator's license number, the gross weight, the batch number and products used in the plant's cultivation and processing.
"It's like a nutritional label on a Snickers bar, if you will," said Fritzel. "You know exactly what was used on it."
State is watching
In 2010, in response to a proliferation of medical marijuana dispensaries, the Colorado Legislature created a first-of-its-kind, for-profit dispensary system. The state Department of Revenue, which also regulates gambling, liquor and tobacco, oversees the system.
Lightshade Labs is required to produce 70 percent of the marijuana it sells. The retail outlet shares space with a big indoor marijuana farm where the temperature hovers between 74 and 78 degrees and the tap water is purified.
The facility's electrical bill totals as much as $11,000 a month.
Fritzel and his two business partners, all former real estate developers, serve 1,000 patients.
The state vets not only prospective owners of commercial medical marijuana operations but also their sources of financing. Security cameras must monitor every step of production.
Each of the estimated 2,000 plants at Fritzel's grow site is assigned a code as soon as it's taken as a cutting from a mature plant. The code follows the cannabis as it grows and is harvested, dried, trimmed and sold. Its movements and weight are recorded in the company's inventory database up to five times before it reaches a patient.
Fritzel said he's happy to follow the state's rules.
"It works for us," Fritzel said. "Colorado's model is regarded as the best in the world. We feel if we can comply here with all the standards, we can do it anywhere."
He wouldn't talk revenues but he said he's considering full health benefits for his 54 employees.
"I have two kids, a 6- and an 8-year-old," he said. "I'm a normal guy. I don't even smoke."
A sign on the door of one of Lightshade Labs' grow rooms reminds employees that the state is watching: "Help us stay in compliance."
Waiting for inspectors
Many owners of Colorado marijuana businesses are eager to show off their operations to regulators, believing that following state law helps ward off federal interference. Yet many are still waiting for the opportunity.
Medical marijuana strictly regulated in Colorado
Colorado has strict rules for its medical marijuana industry, which serves more than 100,000 Colorado patients. The state's experiment with regulating the industry is closely watched nationally as states grapple with how to oversee the business of medical marijuana.
Watch video
"We are really hoping they come soon," said Nick Hice, an owner of Denver Relief, a retail medical marijuana center and grow site.
Hice proudly shows visitors the business's casino-quality surveillance cameras, its sophisticated water filtration system and the tidy room where marijuana flowers are drying on white hangers. Like many centers in Colorado, Hice's still hasn't received its state license but can operate because his application is on file.
Hice said state regulators came by a year and a half ago at his invitation, but it wasn't an official inspection. He said they have not been back since.
"We do everything we possibly can to be professional and responsible," said Hice.
Colorado officials acknowledge they are behind. They blame the growing pains of regulating medical marijuana on an unprecedented scale.
A "skeleton crew"
Colorado's medical marijuana enforcement division was envisioned as an agency with about 40 sworn officers, said Marco Vasquez, chief of investigations for the agency. Today, Vasquez said, the enforcement division has a "skeleton crew" of nine officers because fees from applications and licensing slowed from an initial $8.6 million to $3.8 million last fiscal year.
Vasquez, who retired from the agency March 8, took a three-month furlough last year to save the state money.
"This had never been done before," he said. "We didn't have any lessons learned from other states. It was, 'Holy cow! We're running out of money.'"
Other factors have slowed the approval process as well.
Medical marijuana businesses receive local approval before the state signs off, and local licensing has gone more slowly than expected.
Meanwhile, requiring medical marijuana centers to be aligned with growers brought unintended consequences. People experienced in growing marijuana paired up with entrepreneurs from other backgrounds. Many relationships fizzled.
"As soon as we completed a background investigation -- here were the partners, here's where the funding came from -- there was a change in ownership, and we basically had to start all over again," said Vasquez. "It became very, very labor intensive for us to keep up with all those business relationships."
Though 800 medical marijuana centers submitted state applications in 2011, 300 were either denied or withdrawn.
Is it working?
Colorado law enforcement officials say short staffing means the regulatory system lacks teeth. They also say giving the medical marijuana industry state blessing has brought the drug into the mainstream.
Martinez, the head of the Colorado Drug Investigators Association and a Denver police lieutenant, worries that the market of marijuana-infused edibles, including candies and sodas, entices young people to use the drug.
Colorado still allows the home cultivation of medical marijuana, and those residential grows remain a common source of complaints from residents as well as targets of theft, burglaries and assaults.
Drug detectives are investigating at least one medical marijuana center's potential ties to organized crime, Martinez said.
But Matt Cook, a medical marijuana regulatory consultant, said regulations promote responsible practices.
Cook, a former state regulator and medical marijuana enforcement official who drafted the rules for marijuana businesses, said he drew on concepts familiar to other highly regulated enterprises.
"There's nothing magical about it," said Cook. "In Colorado the regulatory provisions have a little dog and horse racing in them, they have a little gaming in them, they have a little alcohol and beverage enforcement in them and a little tobacco enforcement in them."
Though marijuana is illegal under federal law, Cook noted, federal law enforcement has generally left large-scale state-licensed growers and dispensaries alone.
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Yea people wouldnt mind paying a licensing fee for their smoke if they can be assured clean stuff from a shop rather than some Dodgy dealer. This makes loads of sense its about time to change wouldnt you agree?0
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Dont forget it is a weed that is super easy to grow, if you got it started in your geeen house you could not stop it, just legalise it and have growing licences for a reasonable fee each year.
Yep. It's called weed for a reason. But to have a supply all year round you'd need to grow inside and would need better equipment and expertise. It'd turn into a niche hobby and shops would still be able to sell their stuff.0 -
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For Pro-Cannabis people how exactly would you regulate the drug?
Leaving aside the stupid pro cannabis term it's impossible to regulate something that could be grown in Granny's garden or Harry the Hippy's polytunnel of propagation.Would it be made available for prescription only like Valium
No. See above. Anyway what GP/Physician would want to be involved in the business of recreational drug distribution?or would you be able to walk into a shop & buy it like you would a 6 pack?
Who cares? Just stop letting violent thugs make a fortune from its prohibition and conservitard authoritarians making criminals out of peaceful people. It's great to see the disastrous war on drugs people begin to crumble. Go USA.0 -
if this plant were only discovered now scientists and chemists would be tripping over themselves to bring it to market in all it's forms0
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There would have to be a very regulated medical cannabis industry. I don't ever see a day when European doctors tell their patients to smoke a blunt. It'll be turned into sprays, pills or ointments for treating disease. It's the only way to have some control over dose.For Pro-Cannabis people how exactly would you regulate the drug?
Would it be made available for prescription only like Valium or would you be able to walk into a shop & buy it like you would a 6 pack?
For recreational use I'd like to see some sort of club venue where people can go to use cannabis, this would be a no smoking venue obviously which wouldn't be a problem at all. Making people go out and buy their weed and encouraging them to smoke it around other people should be the way to go.
I don't buy the argument that people will all be growing their own. We don't grow our own bananas, even though technically you could do that here too. Once it's available as an affordable product people will buy it instead of waiting 6 months to grow some that might not even survive or be as potent or balanced as commercially available cannabis.
The industry could be easily regulated along the same lines as alcohol or food, we already know how to regulate legally available drugs.0 -
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I find it mind blowing that people are calling for licence fees to be paid to govt for allowing citizen to grow a plant.
Couple of questions. 1.Do you have to pay a licence fee to distill alcohol at home?
2.Do you have to pay a licence fee to grow tobacco plant at home?
Just shows how far the system has permeated the thinking of intelligent people and turned them into grateful slaves.
pay govt a fee...a laughable proposition.
Do farmers pay for licences to grow plants used in alcohol production?
Do breweries have special licence to brew alcohol i wonder?
Tell govt to p1ss off.0 -
1.Do you have to pay a licence fee to distill alcohol at home?
That's illegal.2.Do you have to pay a licence fee to grow tobacco plant at home?
Tobacco won't grow at home, but no.Do farmers pay for licences to grow plants used in alcohol production?
No.Do breweries have special licence to brew alcohol i wonder?
Er, yes.
Not another feckin' freeman's rights advocate...0 -
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Mr Benevolent wrote: »That's illegal.
Home brew kits illegal mmmm think your wrong there.
Tobacco won't grow at home, but no.
Tobacco will grow at home obviously in right conditions.
No.
Er, yes.
You sure they dont just have the usual requirements of a company involved in food production say.
Not another feckin' freeman's rights advocate...
You say freemans rights advocate like its a dirty thing.
Your so misinformed i shud ignore you.0 -
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Essentially yes you do, it's extremely dangerous so the average person isn't allowed to do it legally.Couple of questions. 1.Do you have to pay a licence fee to distill alcohol at home?
It's not exactly the same thing. Farmers grow a crop that can be used in many ways, it doesn't come out of the field as a drug.Do farmers pay for licences to grow plants used in alcohol production?
I think people are open to a license because they know they won't ever get people to just accept cannabis growing.0 -
Addressing the OP directly, I would just like to say that people who are confused by the do/don't debate could do nothing better than to take themselves over to the Netherlands and over a couple of days there just observe, educate yourself, and talk to the business people as to their views on 'drugs' and how they cope with the whole damn thing. It is a very worthwhile exercise. The polarisation we live with here is absent over there.0
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http://www.oregonlive.com/health/index.ssf/2013/03/medical_marijuana_colorados_na.html
DENVER, Colo. -- State enforcement officers can inspect John Fritzel's business without warning or permission. They can pore over his books, check his $50,000 security system and add up his inventory. Before Fritzel set up shop in 2011, investigators checked the Iowa native's background and dug into his finances.
No fewer than four city agencies inspected Fritzel's business, Lightshade Labs, before he opened. The state has visited five times.
Welcome to medical marijuana, Colorado-style.
Though medical marijuana is legal in 18 states and Washington, D.C., none regulates the business of medical marijuana more tightly than Colorado, which collected $5.4 million in sales taxes last year from the industry.
In Oregon, medical marijuana patients may grow their own cannabis or have someone do it for them, at or below cost. Retail businesses, though numerous, occupy a gray area of state law. No one inspects grow sites or regulates dispensaries, much less audits their books.
Colorado allows commercial production of medical marijuana and monitors it at every stage: from large-scale cultivation facilities, to makers of marijuana-infused foods, to the 500 retail outlets where the drug is sold. The seed-to-sale monitoring system is seen as a model for how to regulate recreational marijuana, which Colorado voters approved last November.
As Oregon lawmakers weigh whether and how to regulate access to medical marijuana, Colorado's experiment offers one potential road map for navigating an industry as complex and controversial as cannabis.
"Colorado has no peer at the moment regarding a regulated cannabis system," said Allen St. Pierre, executive director of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws, the country's oldest marijuana legalization organization.
Medical Marijuana
Continuing coverage of medical marijuana by The Oregonian's Noelle Crombie.
Many people in the business of supplying medical marijuana to patients say they're happy to follow Colorado's strict standards, seeing compliance as a mark of legitimacy. But the system has its limitations.
A top official with the state's medical marijuana enforcement division, charged with ensuring compliance with 72 pages of state rules, said his agency is underfunded and overwhelmed.
Colorado's highly regulated production and distribution system hasn't eliminated a problem documented in The Oregonian's 2012 investigation of medical marijuana in Oregon: diversion to the black market. A federal survey last year found 70 instances of Colorado medical marijuana trafficked to nearly two dozen states around the country in 2011 and early 2012.
Ernie Martinez, president of the Colorado Drug Investigators Association, said the state "is doing what they can with what they have," but it's not enough.
"As it is now," Martinez said, "it's an honor system essentially."
Farm to table
Lightshade Labs, a dispensary in an industrial area of Denver that serves as many as 250 people a day, bustled on a recent morning.
View full size
Once customers with state-issued medical marijuana cards check in with a receptionist, they step into a waiting room. It's similar to a doctor's office, except the walls feature posters promoting the vintage pulp novel "Marijuana Girl" and the Cheech and Chong film "Up in Smoke."
A half-dozen men in their 20s wait to be called into a room where they will meet with a "budtender," the person who helps patients choose the strain and form of marijuana they'll buy.
Clear boxes contain packaged marijuana, candies, marijuana oil, baked goods with names such as Chronic Crispies and hundreds of rolled joints. Hip-hop plays. SportsCenter flickers on a 50-inch screen over a counter that looks like a bar. Patrons peruse the strains, place orders and walk to another counter where their marijuana is placed in white bags with the words, "Your drug store."
Labels on each package show the operator's license number, the gross weight, the batch number and products used in the plant's cultivation and processing.
"It's like a nutritional label on a Snickers bar, if you will," said Fritzel. "You know exactly what was used on it."
State is watching
In 2010, in response to a proliferation of medical marijuana dispensaries, the Colorado Legislature created a first-of-its-kind, for-profit dispensary system. The state Department of Revenue, which also regulates gambling, liquor and tobacco, oversees the system.
Lightshade Labs is required to produce 70 percent of the marijuana it sells. The retail outlet shares space with a big indoor marijuana farm where the temperature hovers between 74 and 78 degrees and the tap water is purified.
The facility's electrical bill totals as much as $11,000 a month.
Fritzel and his two business partners, all former real estate developers, serve 1,000 patients.
The state vets not only prospective owners of commercial medical marijuana operations but also their sources of financing. Security cameras must monitor every step of production.
Each of the estimated 2,000 plants at Fritzel's grow site is assigned a code as soon as it's taken as a cutting from a mature plant. The code follows the cannabis as it grows and is harvested, dried, trimmed and sold. Its movements and weight are recorded in the company's inventory database up to five times before it reaches a patient.
Fritzel said he's happy to follow the state's rules.
"It works for us," Fritzel said. "Colorado's model is regarded as the best in the world. We feel if we can comply here with all the standards, we can do it anywhere."
He wouldn't talk revenues but he said he's considering full health benefits for his 54 employees.
"I have two kids, a 6- and an 8-year-old," he said. "I'm a normal guy. I don't even smoke."
A sign on the door of one of Lightshade Labs' grow rooms reminds employees that the state is watching: "Help us stay in compliance."
Waiting for inspectors
Many owners of Colorado marijuana businesses are eager to show off their operations to regulators, believing that following state law helps ward off federal interference. Yet many are still waiting for the opportunity.
Medical marijuana strictly regulated in Colorado
Colorado has strict rules for its medical marijuana industry, which serves more than 100,000 Colorado patients. The state's experiment with regulating the industry is closely watched nationally as states grapple with how to oversee the business of medical marijuana.
Watch video
"We are really hoping they come soon," said Nick Hice, an owner of Denver Relief, a retail medical marijuana center and grow site.
Hice proudly shows visitors the business's casino-quality surveillance cameras, its sophisticated water filtration system and the tidy room where marijuana flowers are drying on white hangers. Like many centers in Colorado, Hice's still hasn't received its state license but can operate because his application is on file.
Hice said state regulators came by a year and a half ago at his invitation, but it wasn't an official inspection. He said they have not been back since.
"We do everything we possibly can to be professional and responsible," said Hice.
Colorado officials acknowledge they are behind. They blame the growing pains of regulating medical marijuana on an unprecedented scale.
A "skeleton crew"
Colorado's medical marijuana enforcement division was envisioned as an agency with about 40 sworn officers, said Marco Vasquez, chief of investigations for the agency. Today, Vasquez said, the enforcement division has a "skeleton crew" of nine officers because fees from applications and licensing slowed from an initial $8.6 million to $3.8 million last fiscal year.
Vasquez, who retired from the agency March 8, took a three-month furlough last year to save the state money.
"This had never been done before," he said. "We didn't have any lessons learned from other states. It was, 'Holy cow! We're running out of money.'"
Other factors have slowed the approval process as well.
Medical marijuana businesses receive local approval before the state signs off, and local licensing has gone more slowly than expected.
Meanwhile, requiring medical marijuana centers to be aligned with growers brought unintended consequences. People experienced in growing marijuana paired up with entrepreneurs from other backgrounds. Many relationships fizzled.
"As soon as we completed a background investigation -- here were the partners, here's where the funding came from -- there was a change in ownership, and we basically had to start all over again," said Vasquez. "It became very, very labor intensive for us to keep up with all those business relationships."
Though 800 medical marijuana centers submitted state applications in 2011, 300 were either denied or withdrawn.
Is it working?
Colorado law enforcement officials say short staffing means the regulatory system lacks teeth. They also say giving the medical marijuana industry state blessing has brought the drug into the mainstream.
Martinez, the head of the Colorado Drug Investigators Association and a Denver police lieutenant, worries that the market of marijuana-infused edibles, including candies and sodas, entices young people to use the drug.
Colorado still allows the home cultivation of medical marijuana, and those residential grows remain a common source of complaints from residents as well as targets of theft, burglaries and assaults.
Drug detectives are investigating at least one medical marijuana center's potential ties to organized crime, Martinez said.
But Matt Cook, a medical marijuana regulatory consultant, said regulations promote responsible practices.
Cook, a former state regulator and medical marijuana enforcement official who drafted the rules for marijuana businesses, said he drew on concepts familiar to other highly regulated enterprises.
"There's nothing magical about it," said Cook. "In Colorado the regulatory provisions have a little dog and horse racing in them, they have a little gaming in them, they have a little alcohol and beverage enforcement in them and a little tobacco enforcement in them."
Though marijuana is illegal under federal law, Cook noted, federal law enforcement has generally left large-scale state-licensed growers and dispensaries alone.
"I think that speaks volumes to what is going on here," Cook said.
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http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2012/0508/breaking32.html
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2007/07/31/uk-britain-cannabis-idUKL3173105820070731
http://www.abc.net.au/sa/stories/s923596.htm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2419713.stm
The only people I know who smoke weed are unemployed. I know nobody in a highly professional career that smokes weed daily.
I smoke daily ! Have done for a few years now. I just obtained a PhD last year, and I am now working in the London National history museum for the next three years researching the evolution of venom proteins.
You have been told. Just because you don't have any friends that are like that, doesn't mean that is universal !! How many friends could you have out of the hundreds of thousands that smoke in Ireland alone ??0 -
From what I understand, the problems that we have with substance abusing (violence etc during alcohol intoxication) do not apply to cannibis. I have no personal experience of this, but from what I've read and heard, getting high makes you relax and maybe get the munchies.HarryPotter41 wrote: »Yes, a boost in the tourist industry due to leaglizing cannibas, excellent, just what the country needs. More people off their trollies.
Caffine speeds up the ageing process.and please give me the links to research showing the huge amount of deaths attributed to caffeine each year.
Absolutely agreed - if someone is allowing their substance abuse (acohol, tobacco, cannibis etc) of any kind to interfere with their working duties, their job should be fair game.I also agree with OscarBravo on the issues relating to the work place. Any employer ( and indeed fellow employee ) has to expect people to turn up capabale of doing the work that they are paid to do
What's to stop someone going for a couple of naggins of vodka on an empty stomach today? If somoene comes back inebriated after lunch, they can AFAIK be sent home or fired. Ditto for coming back high.and if cannibas is legal whats to stop them having a sneaky spliff at lunchtime.
You are right to suggest that someone might not be 100% capable of working after smoking some weed, and from what I understand given the entire point of smoking it you shouldn't even try. But that aspect is no different to alcohol.0 -
Chuck Stone wrote: »If the price stayed low probably not - if they kept raising the price, like tobacco, then you'd be an idiot if you didn't grow your own.
You sure would :-) ulster says no to £12.50 per gram for some crap orange bud. Benefits of growing your own are not just about price, the quality is better, no chance of funding paramilitary groups and it fun and a beautiful plant, its also super easy to grow.0 -
When discussing the matter on twitter please use the hashtag (heh) #legalizeitbro0
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You sure would :-) ulster says no to £12.50 per gram for some crap orange bud. Benefits of growing your own are not just about price, the quality is better, no chance of funding paramilitary groups and it fun and a beautiful plant, its also super easy to grow.
Yeah but you also end up with a nice criminal record if your caught :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:0 -
I have a plant on the go atm, ak48, completely organic and outside in N.I, I bring it in if its cold or wet, feed on fish, blood and bone and the odd feed of revive from advanced nutrients, it is amazingly bushy, wish I could post a pic.0
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