J. Cole

AJ21

Anyone else here listen to this guy? I've been waiting and waiting to hear something from his album and, apparently, the wait is finally over. Or so I thought...

A song called 'How High' leaked earlier today and J. Cole Nation claimed that while the song was not the single that Cole promised would be released this week, it would definitely be on the album. The story's changed and now they're saying it's unclear whether it will make the album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4uP_fxdAQg

Anyway, the release of the first official single has been delayed due to a sample issue but I'm really hoping we get to hear it this week. Cole is one of, if not the most, talented rappers out there IMO. I still listen to The Warm Up and Friday Night Lights every day of the week and I really want to see him succeed at Roc Nation. His album is finished so hopefully he gets a release date soon and we get see what he can really do.

garysully1986

Yeah I really like him, Who dat was a great anthem last year and the stuff he has done with Drake is fairly good!

LUPE

Most talented out there imo. Just hope that his album does him justice, I'm a bit mixed on some of the stuff I've heard off it thus far though. Well worth "acquiring" The Come Up as well if you don't have it already.

MCnoFlow

He's playing one night only in London 5th of august don't miss it. My tickets booked!

LUPE

MCnoFlow wrote: »

He's playing one night only in London 5th of august don't miss it. My tickets booked!

Where'd you get them?

Edit: Don't worry, found it and booked

mufcboy1999

he's pretty popular here with a few of us, there's no denying real talent and j cole smacks you in the face and demands your attention.

he will succeed at roc nation, dont believe that rubbish that jay z will drop him if he did it would be a huge mistake and someone like a jimmy iovine at interscope would snap him up in a second. jay is just putting pressure on him to finish the project because it has and is still a long wait.

his mixtapes are better than 80 per cent of hip hop albums released in the last couple of years, again there's no denying his talent and if someone as good as him doesn't get as big as his talent deserves it just shows how bad hip hop has got.

madmandaniel

J Cole is the illest MC out there right now, simply put
wordplay is ridiculous

wilmer mclean

Have to say of all the new rappers he is my favourite by far.

Hugh Cream

im very uninterested in this guy.

Stewbag

Yeah I've been listening to J.Cole for over a year now and I have to say he is a ill MC, I forget the name but there's a freestyle on his mixtape "Friday Night Lights" and it is unreal.

CiaranMT

Hugh Cream wrote: »

im very uninterested in this guy.

How surprising.

Stewbag wrote: »

Yeah I've been listening to J.Cole for over a year now and I have to say he is a ill MC, I forget the name but there's a freestyle on his mixtape "Friday Night Lights" and it is unreal.

Back to the Topic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfX608ayMPI

Mr. Rager

Yeah I listen to him, he's class. One of the best young rappers out there atm

Makaveli

CiaranMT wrote: »

How surprising.

Unnecessary. No need for back handed comments like that.

Hugh Cream

thanks, appreciated.

AJ21

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA0mvKwvyZw

mufcboy1999

lost ones leaked and i think its quaility, just real lryics and story telling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ra1pUhUOgdQ

D'Agger

Started listening to him about 2 weeks ago - best rapper I've listened to in quite some time. His style is brilliant imo

mufcboy1999

new j cole.

http://www.diversehiphop.com/blog/2011/06/j-cole-work-out/

mufcboy1999

another new j cole track called cheer up, just quailty. cole and lemar are on another level from the rest of the new talent.

http://www.diversehiphop.com/blog/2011/06/j-cole-cheer-up-2/#more-13165

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uq3po2WLUVM

bigpoppa

he just tweeted 27/9

cant wait

Danow247

bigpoppa wrote: »

he just tweeted 27/9

cant wait

he posted the album title aswell.

Coleworld: The Sideline Story

Cant fu*kin wait!!! been waiting on tweet for almost 3 years

Jimmy Iovine

Great news. Fingers crossed it drops on time and isn't delayed by bull****

Hugh Cream

sorry, dont mean too offend his fans but something tells me this guy wont blow up, theres something missing.

CiaranMT

Hugh Cream wrote: »

sorry, dont mean too offend his fans but something tells me this guy wont blow up, theres something missing.

He isn't being pushed this side of the water all that much yet. Compare his exposure here, and that of Kendrick, etc, to the States, and it doesn't amount to a whole lot.

But then, the States is the main market, make it there (which he will no doubt do), and it'll spread outwards. Doubt it'll be too quickly though.

bigpoppa

sorry, dont mean too offend his fans but something tells me this guy wont blow up, theres something missing.

I could give a toss he doesn't 'blow up' he is one of the best MC's in a long long time, been listening to his freestyles / mixtapes and stuff for so long the album is gonna be great for those who have loved his stuff to date.

A lot of real hip hop fans excited about this guy, just what it needed dope lyricist MC

Hugh Cream

CiaranMT wrote: »

He isn't being pushed this side of the water all that much yet. Compare his exposure here, and that of Kendrick, etc, to the States, and it doesn't amount to a whole lot.

But then, the States is the main market, make it there (which he will no doubt do), and it'll spread outwards. Doubt it'll be too quickly though.

Ye see I'm talking about the states, I can't see it happening for some reason, not that he needs to be huge to prove a point or nor does his level of success go hand in hand with his skills, I'm not saying that.
But let's face facts, he's signed to roc nation, jay didn't sign him to be that artist that's appreciated but doesn't sell.
Maybe I'm wrong but i dont think I am.

@ bigpoppa

Drop the whole "real hip hop fans" shyt, it's a cop out.

For what it's worth, you may not give a toss about weather he sells or not, but he does and jay z does.

bigpoppa

I agree completely with you that he doesnt (for me anyway) have to be huge to prove a point. I love the raw mixtape / freestyles and if there is one friday night lights a year i would be happy with that

I dont have any connection with jay or roc nation so their profits or share price dont really impact me in anyway:) I suspect his less interesting stuff (for me) will be the inevitable tracks with Rihanna etc etc

I think you are are wrong in that it will sell well and he will be huge as generally such talented individuals are not overlooked. I kinda hope he maintains the integrity as long as possible as one of my favourites in a while

@ bigpoppa Drop the whole "real hip hop fans" shyt, it's a cop out. For what it's worth, you may not give a toss about weather he sells or not, but he does and jay z does.

Oh ok, is this forum 'beef'? I did not intend this as an offence to anyone, What I meant was *everyone* I know who loves hip hop is *dying* to hear this album. No offence meant genuinely. I don't argue on forums tbh it is boring to others and I am too old and wise. I will try make my posts clearer going fwd and you maybe drink less coffee

Anyway back to the point , lets hope its a banger, love all his stuff so far bar a few tracks. We can always have a whip round for Jay if it goes pear shaped (joke)

Hugh Cream

No not at all, it's just I am not anticipating his album and I feel that doesn't make me any less of a "real hip hop" fan than anyone else, but I now know that wasn't your intentions.

Although he seems to be the complete polar opposite of a Rick Ross for instance, so for that reason I'd like to see him blow.

Hugh Cream

Why Hasn't He Blown Up Yet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY3rbD87yt0

Pretty Much.

mufcboy1999

they hit a few home truths alright, they went in a hard on him cons in some ways but you know what they say the truth hurts.

i just think he needs that banger of a single to be honest to put him on the map, it was interesting when they were talking about wiz and he blew up with the black and yellow single before that he was looking exactly like j cole now.

but as in regards to talent you cant compare wiz to cole there's no competition, cole sh*ts all over him and your drake's etc but its just black and yellow was that good wiz had to be recognized after it, this is what cole needs a hit and maybe then he will get the recognition his work deserves because what he raps about is real most of the time and full of substance and not some meaningless commercial bullsh*t like a drake or wiz who just raps about the same recycled stuff in nearly all of his songs.

he needs a few hits something that will be played in the clubs or just on the radio, that doesn't mean he has to sell out and go completely pop or anything and go against everything his music stands for, maybe a feature from a strong established artist like his boss jay z or a eminem would put him out there more and make people aware of him on a global stage.

maybe he just cant make a comercial hit lads, maybe its time we start hearing cole rap over someone else's beats like a dre or swizz etc who are proven hit makers.

Although he seems to be the complete polar opposite of a Rick Ross for instance, so for that reason I'd like to see him blow.

+ 1 on that, rick ross is a mockery of not just hip hop music but hip hop as a culture, i know ross is not that big over here but in the states he is considered the bee's knee's at the moment even after the whole working with the law.

just shows how much hip hop has changed a talented mc like cole is strugglin to blow up but a proven fraud is the number 1 gangsta rapper its laughable to say the least.

Hugh Cream

maybe it is the label thats failing him?
i mean i know next to nothing about cole, i should know something, i should be seeing more of him without having to go look for it.
his whole presence seems non existent, only dropping stuff occasionally.

Stab*City

Are you people for real id rather listen to cheryl cole.

sarabroderick

Yes we are for real. We believe that in this hip hop forum most would prefer listen to J Cole than Mrs Cole (Tweedy?)

Any other questions post them here and I will be happy to help

Stab*City

sarabroderick wrote: »

Yes we are for real. We believe that in this hip hop forum most would prefer listen to J Cole than Mrs Cole (Tweedy?)

Any other questions post them here and I will be happy to help

I think my sarcasim may have went over your head.. As for j.cole he actually belongs in the pop forum.

bigpoppa

if it is cheryl cole you want I think perhaps you head on over to the Pop forum (assuming there is one, have to take your word for it)

Stab*City

bigpoppa wrote: »

if it is cheryl cole you want I think perhaps you head on over to the Pop forum (assuming there is one, have to take your word for it)

Ok seeing as though you cant take a hint.. what im trying to say is j cole SUCKZ BALLS.. He aint Hip Hop he's Hip Pop..

Stab*City

garysully1986 wrote: »

Yeah I really like him, Who dat was a great anthem last year and the stuff he has done with Drake is fairly good!

I really cant believe that name in bold is being mentioned in a Hip Hop forum.. I cant even say it in fear of someone hearing me.. (Oh wait im typing not talking)..

bigpoppa

more forum beef, I get it, yo your gangsta attitude is dope yo

we get it you dont rate him thats fine just dont troll the forum as it reflects badly on you and you come across like a bit of a lamp

Stab*City

bigpoppa wrote: »

more forum beef, I get it, yo your gangsta attitude is dope yo

we get it you dont rate him thats fine just dont troll the forum as it reflects badly on you and you come across like a bit of a lamp

I cant believe you called me a troll, for slaggin a punk ass rapper like j cole.

Hugh Cream

in fairness, i kind of a agree about cole, for me in any how i dont see what other people are seeing.
but i know a few things about him, ive heard a bit, enough to know his content is admirable and i know hes far from pop.

mufcboy1999

look its up to you whether you like him or not but he's far from hip pop have you even tried to listen to his stuff?

i mean he's only ever really had 1 single attempt that was successful and that was who's that and that is far from pop.

and his latest single lost is also far from hip pop, cole is actually known for not going commercial like the majority of hip hop, but in saying that i wouldn't rule it out in the future he might have to.

i like cole's music but im no fan boy he has weakness's i.e his ability to actually make a hit... we know he can make good music but can he actually make a radio or club hit like all the previous greats have...

also like i said above he needs to start rapping over some other producers music and not just his own, im not saying there's anything wrong with his sound, i love his beats but i think he needs help from proven hit makers like your dre's and swiss beats of the world.

Stab*City

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

look its up to you whether you like him or not but he's far from hip pop have you even tried to listen to his stuff?

i mean he's only ever really had 1 single attempt that was successful and that was who's that and that is far from pop.

and his latest single lost is also far from hip pop, cole is actually known for not going commercial like the majority of hip hop, but in saying that i wouldn't rule it out in the future he might have to.

i like cole's music but im no fan boy he has weakness's i.e his ability to actually make a hit... we know he can make good music but can he actually make a radio or club hit like all the previous greats have...

also like i said above he needs to start rapping over some other producers music and not just his own, im not saying there's anything wrong with his sound, i love his beats but i think he needs help from proven hit makers like your dre's and swiss beats of the world.

Ya dre could get him into the charts no problem.. Myself i dont really like chart music.. i prefer real Hip Hop.. And yes i gave Friday Night Lights a couple of listens before i moved it to the recycle bin.. All J cole is KNOWN for round these parts is being crap.

PrettyBoy

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

he needs to start rapping over some other producers music and not just his own, im not saying there's anything wrong with his sound, i love his beats but i think he needs help from proven hit makers like your dre's and swiss beats of the world.

FWIW, Cole has confirmed that he has worked with Dre but he didn't go into any detail.

http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.13026/title.j-cole-confirms-work-with-dr-dre

I have no doubt in my mind that his album will be incredible.

Stab*City

PrettyBoy wrote: »

FWIW, Cole has confirmed that he has worked with Dre but he didn't go into any detail.

http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.13026/title.j-cole-confirms-work-with-dr-dre

I have no doubt in my mind that his album will be incredible.

Ya an instant classic i bet (For about 5 mins until the new drake album drops or maybe the new britney album).. :rolleyes:

Stab*City

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

i love his beats but i think he needs help from proven hit makers like your dre's and swiss beats of the world.

The best mc's can make any beat sound hot.

southcentral lk

Stab*City wrote: »

Thanks man.. Honestly im not trolling a buddy of mine told me about this thread cuz he knows how much i think j cole suckz.. and to be fair ive posted lots in this forum and this is probaly the first time ive disagreed with anyone.. usually this forum is excellent for hip hop knowledge thats why i was surprised to hear people going on about j cole being one of the best.. that friday night lights faded into the atmosphere pretty fast for one of the best rappers around..

Have to agree there that album didn't blow up and lyrically it's not bad but production was crap!!

mufcboy1999

Stab*City wrote: »

The best mc's can make any beat sound hot.

true to an extent but not always, ye beats play 2nd fiddle to lryics but there has been cases before which were the opposite where the beat eclipsed the rapper you heard of j dilla right?. Todays hip hop is totally different its not entirely based on a rappers lryical skills as you said just take a look at all this hip pop surrounding us.

tbf maybe he is trolling, or maybe he genuinely thinks cole is crap, either way i dont think he needs banning.
we dont always need to agree with each other?

agree 100 per cent, everyone is entitled to there opinion weather i agree with stab city or not. the word troll gets thrown around a bit too much on the hip hop forum.

Is there a mod here? I like this forum a lot but such
Trolls / kids usually get sorted? Keen to keep this thread open obv

i think thats a small bit harsh bud he's entitled to give his opinion on his music, im only speaking from experience because i was called a troll for giving a few negative but in my opinion fair comments about game and the red album on that thread, im just saying is all.

sarabroderick

but if you dont like something make the point once, I think multiple posts of the same non construcive criticism is nonsense...

my two cents if saying something is wack because it is popular is straight out stupid, comparison to Britney Spears is stupid and makes the poster look stupid imo - mods should look at that at least

I look forward to his album I think his stuff is pretty damn good

Boom_Bap

bigpoppa wrote: »

Is there a mod here? I like this forum a lot but such
Trolls / kids usually get sorted? Keen to keep this thread open obv

Yes there is a mod here. I dont think that there was any trolling taking place, just someone expressing thier thoughts on J. Cole

PrettyBoy wrote: »

These parts? Limerick?

Stop embarrassing yourself.

Pretty Boy - please refrain from directing your responce at the poster

Stab*City

sarabroderick wrote: »

my two cents if saying something is wack because it is popular is straight out stupid, comparison to Britney Spears is stupid and makes the poster look stupid imo - mods should look at that at least

I look forward to his album I think his stuff is pretty damn good

I consider J Cole pop music at best hip pop.. ok the comparisoin to Britney was a joke. Of course you would think my comments are stupid cuz your a j cole fan. Its funny how you still insist on telling the mods how to do their jobs.. Dont you think they already know how to MOD? I mean thats why they are mods and not you.

Gunn4r wrote: »

I am all for including "the kids" in the discussions as we were all young once like stab city (terrible nick) but they should learn to play nice. Multiple posts re: its pop etc / the hahahahahahah malarky stupid (even if your from Limerick - joke!)

I am not a kid. My nickname rocks and i just thought it was very funny how a poster who obviously knows little about what rappers are even saying could lecture me on hip hop.

Ill make this my last post in the j cole thread because it obvious you j cole fans are very passionate about his brand of pop music. Last word.

Boom_Bap

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