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What would you do if this was your child?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Twould be interesting to know which of us are parents of young kids and which of us are not. I would suspect that those who are horrified at this are parents and the 'arrah some kids need a good slap' squad are not.
    ???

    I wouldn't put money on it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    Nodin wrote: »
    I wouldn't put money on it.
    Well. I am and have two well behaved kids who have never been slapped and have never needed it. A quick glare from Daddy does the trick:D
    Maybe Im being nieve but I would like to think that most parents can control their kids with out resorting to beating them and so would be shocked at the video posted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭kelle


    Twould be interesting to know which of us are parents of young kids and which of us are not. I would suspect that those who are horrified at this are parents and the 'arrah some kids need a good slap' squad are not.
    ???

    Even before I had children, I looked back at the punishment we endured and hated my teachers for what they did - it was just like what the teacher in that video did.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,130 ✭✭✭✭Kiera


    Twould be interesting to know which of us are parents of young kids and which of us are not. I would suspect that those who are horrified at this are parents and the 'arrah some kids need a good slap' squad are not.
    ???

    Well you'd be wrong then. I'm so saddened by that video and i dont have any kids.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,707 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    i dont have kids but i have nieces

    they all have my card and know that if anybody threatens thewm or hurts them they are to say " this is my uncle he would enjoy punishing you for upseting me"


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    Kiera wrote: »
    Well you'd be wrong then. I'm so saddened by that video and i dont have any kids.
    Whoops. I should have said "The majority". Didnt mean to generalise.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,776 ✭✭✭up for anything


    Watching that video I didn't see any element of discipline in what he was doing. More some sort of nasty paedophiliac sexual sadism. :mad: He barely scanned their copy books before he'd hit them so I very much doubt it was anything that they had gotten wrong in their homework. It seemed very much like a ritual punishment. Also he only hit the boys once, whether that was because they didn't pull their hands away so it wasn't much fun I don't know, but he really liked tormenting those little girls.

    I got the ruler/cane three times in my primary school life. 3 strokes across each palm each time. The anticipation was worse than the strokes. We did the ritual spitting on our palms and pulling out a head hair and laying it across the palms of our hands because the spitting was supposed to make it hurt less and the hair supposedly would break the cane. Neither worked.

    The worst corporal punishment I saw was at the primary school in Freshford, Co Kilkenny, for my last year, where the 6th class teacher/also headmaster of the time would put the offending boy standing beside his (the teacher's desk), go behind him and take a running kick to his arse which in some cases resulted in the lad landing at back of the classroom without touching the ground. That had to hurt. Man U missed a brilliant striker in him. With us girls he'd just use sarcasm to strip us of dignity and confidence.


  • Registered Users Posts: 945 ✭✭✭padr81


    If that was my child I would kill that man dead. Stone cold dead. Scumbag, in fact just watching that makes me wish he lived nearby. Scumbag.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭✭later12


    We have the Criminal Courts of Justice
    What's wrong with that? I heard a minor outrage about this on Joe Duffy once (I was driving, can't switch radio stations) and it was probably the only time I wanted to pull over and talk to Joe.

    Criminal is used in its title as an adjective to describe the particular court's specialty... just like criminal law is the law applied therein, or similar to how we have the International Criminal Court in The Hague.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,700 ✭✭✭fonecrusher1


    I'd thump the living sh!T out of him, thats what i'd do. But not drunk, i'd do it sober.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,215 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    kelle wrote: »
    Even before I had children, I looked back at the punishment we endured and hated my teachers for what they did - it was just like what the teacher in that video did.
    Yeah, I realise being a parent gives one a new perspective, but I don't see the necessity of "As a parent, I think beating children is wrong" type stuff. As if it wasn't possible to see this before becoming a parent...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,912 ✭✭✭HellFireClub


    later10 wrote: »
    What's wrong with that? I heard a minor outrage about this on Joe Duffy once (I was driving, can't switch radio stations) and it was probably the only time I wanted to pull over and talk to Joe.

    Criminal is used in its title as an adjective to describe the particular court's specialty... just like criminal law is the law applied therein, or similar to how we have the International Criminal Court in The Hague.

    We don't have a criminal justice system, we have a "sure I'll have what you're having yourself" justice system, a system that accommodates a situation whereby a circuit court judge of all people, cannot be held to account to the Irish state for being in possession of a computer containing images of child pornography, because some little beaurocratic public sector box on a file somewhere, wasn't ticked in relation to the warrant used to seize the equipment. So on we go, and we tolerate this. Then we discover that he cannot even be removed from his postition, he could have been up in his judges chambers downloading child pornography, he is untouchable and the situation then remains the same to this day, and for the avoidance of doubt, the judge retired on a full pension...

    But if you think this is bad, guess what?!? I could probably be sued in the High Court and held to a charge of liable for hitting the "Submit Reply" button at the end of this page, for posting this opinion on here...

    Before anyone looks down on me for my position on summary justice, please have a think about the above...

    Source:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Curtin


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,610 ✭✭✭stoneill


    Brings me back - Brother Francis and The Deeler in the 70's. dishing out "Six of the best" for the most minor infractions. However sadistic he was, the other kids with their advice of putting your hands onto the hot radiators to numb the pain were on a different level. And what would happen if you went home and told your parents? You'd get another scalping from them. Makes you wonder how you kept going to school.

    I'm just grateful that those days are over for kids going to school now and that corporal punishment is banned.




    (Just re-read this and it sounds like I'm still in school 40 years later)


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,700 ✭✭✭fonecrusher1


    I dunno i think i'd just clobber him face to face if it came to it.:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 249 ✭✭bernyh


    Watchin him grab that little girl by the hair and repeatedly beat her, I actually said outloud to myself "I'd f***ing kill him!" which in all God's honesty I am absolutely sure I would. If anyone did anything to my little girl I know I would either die protecting her or spend the rest of my life in prison....... I am physically disgusted at seeing that. Thankfully in my school time physical punishment was already gone how dare any person do that to innocent little children. Animal!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭loobylou


    Really interesting reading peoples reactions to this, ie I'd kill him, break his fingers, beat him hourly, etc etc.
    When I was in school in the 60's and 70's this was routine. We were beaten like that in class daily. I don't for one minute think that my parents loved me any less than I love my own children now but they (and everyone else) KNEW that this is what happened in our schools. Yet they said and did nothing about it and nor did the parents of any of my classmates. It was simply the norm, probably as it is in Egypt today.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 413 ✭✭The Left Hand Of God


    For shame on the people who see violence as an answer to violence.

    For shame :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭Truley


    That was a really horrific video but I guess like other posters have said corporal punishment is still rife across most of the world and even in Ireland. My boyfriend is only in his late 20s and his father used to beat him with a leather belt, and according to him it wasn't that unusual for the time. You would be very surprised at the amount of people who still condone this sort of thing and would like to see it reinstated, especially Irish people. I think this is largely due to rose tinted glasses and forgetting what it feels like to be a young child. Seeing something like this played out on film is unnerving but can also serve as a wake up call.

    If corporal punishment ever gets reinstated in this country my kids will not set foot inside a classroom that's for sure.


  • Registered Users Posts: 945 ✭✭✭padr81


    For shame on the people who see violence as an answer to violence.

    For shame :(

    Theres violence and theres violence. Any person who abuses a child in any way including that scumbag deserve to be locked in a room with said childs family who are handed baseball bats, golf clubs and bricks.

    People do these things cause they get away with it, or if convicted (in Ireland anyway) get a short sentence in a semi-holiday home which is halved if they behave inside.


  • Registered Users Posts: 236 ✭✭Kumejima


    padr81 wrote: »
    If that was my child I would kill that man dead. Stone cold dead. Scumbag, in fact just watching that makes me wish he lived nearby. Scumbag.

    He hits your child, you feel you're entitled to kill him?
    IBy the same reasoning wouldn't his da then be perfectly justified to murder you, kill your kids and wipe out your extended family?

    Seems only fair


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