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The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings
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Thanks for the tip m8, not sure why you think to bring up Zelda, or that I was somehow baffled by the game's complexity. Oh my poor ickle head. :rolleyes:
Yes it had a deep, fairly engaging plot, but the actual sidequests were often tedious in the extreme; spent about 25 hours on the game, with a large portion of that spent trekking across the map areas for sidequests. Intentionally putting your quest objectives at the furthest point away from the quest-giver isn't clever, it was just frustration & bad game design imo. Wrapping it in more layers of the plot doesn't make it more satisfying tbh.
The game was great for the storyline, characters & all-around world building (one of the few RPG worlds that felt like it could exist), but the actual gameplay was pretty ropey in places. Some streamlining wouldn't have gone amiss (Which maybe #2 did, I dunno)0 -
Thanks for the tip m8, not sure why you think to bring up Zelda, or that I was somehow baffled by the game's complexity. Oh my poor ickle head. :rolleyes:
Yes it had a deep, fairly engaging plot, but the actual sidequests were often tedious in the extreme; spent about 25 hours on the game, with a large portion of that spent trekking across the map areas for sidequests. Intentionally putting your quest objectives at the furthest point away from the quest-giver isn't clever, it was just frustration & bad game design imo. Wrapping it in more layers of the plot doesn't make it more satisfying tbh.
The game was great for the storyline, characters & all-around world building (one of the few RPG worlds that felt like it could exist), but the actual gameplay was pretty ropey in places. Some streamlining wouldn't have gone amiss (Which maybe #2 did, I dunno)
Skyrim players get sent out all over the world in to generic dungeons to meet cardvboard cutout characters
. I better run a bit in witcher while being surrounded by life world, then what skyrim offers
If you haven't played witcher 2, then go get it. It's great great great. Last part of the of the game can be a bit dissapointing, buf the rest of the game is solid. I will need to replay it again, when I a finished with witcher 1. 0 -
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At least Skryim let you choose to auto-travel to those locations - the distances are shorter in Witcher, but god when it started getting me to continuously backtrack across the same random lake (to and from some swamps iirc), and having to repeat the same dialogue with a ferryman over & over, that's when I said fook it. Bad game design is bad game design imo.ShadowHearth wrote: »Skyrim players get sent out all over the world in to generic dungeons to meet cardvboard cutout characters . I better run a bit in witcher while being surrounded by life world, then what skyrim offers
If you haven't played witcher 2, then go get it. It's great great great. Last part of the of the game can be a bit dissapointing, buf the rest of the game is solid. I will need to replay it again, when I a finished with witcher 1.
Anyway - Witcher 2. Might do, though not sure my PC could handle it if I'm honest.0 -
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Didn't want to make a new thread so found this one!
I'm finding Skyrim a bit too big a scope; like the only RPGs I've ever played is Zelda, Fable and maybe Diablo 2 an ice age ago. Like about as much upgrading i'm used to is like out of Dead Space...! Anyway i feel a bit 'left to my own devices' and i've no idea what i'm doing (i'd like a few different skill trees to upgrade, not 25 or so!) -- even if (say, pickpocketing and other stuff) opened out later it'd be a vast improvement so i have a better idea......I'm looking for something smaller in scope; similar but more tightly scripted.
So i remembered.......i think it was Shadowhearth who recommended Witcher 2 instead. I've a couple q's about Witcher 2 :
How long is the game?
is there joypad support? (deal breaker for me, i'm a new pc gamer)
Is it open world or a defined path to go through?
How big is the skill trees and that kind of thing?
Are there cutscenes?
Pros and Cons when relating to Skyrim?
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jaykhunter wrote: »Didn't want to make a new thread so found this one!
I'm finding Skyrim a bit too big a scope; like the only RPGs I've ever played is Zelda, Fable and maybe Diablo 2 an ice age ago. Like about as much upgrading i'm used to is like out of Dead Space...! Anyway i feel a bit 'left to my own devices' and i've no idea what i'm doing (i'd like a few different skill trees to upgrade, not 25 or so!) -- even if (say, pickpocketing and other stuff) opened out later it'd be a vast improvement so i have a better idea......I'm looking for something smaller in scope; similar but more tightly scripted.
So i remembered.......i think it was Shadowhearth who recommended Witcher 2 instead. I've a couple q's about Witcher 2 :
How long is the game?
is there joypad support? (deal breaker for me, i'm a new pc gamer)
Is it open world or a defined path to go through?
How big is the skill trees and that kind of thing?
Are there cutscenes?
Pros and Cons when relating to Skyrim?
cheers
1.Think the game is about 18 hours or so probably a bit longer depends on if you do side quests.
2. Yes it does though I personally haven't used one, the game lends itself to mouse and keyboard.
3. It's a zone based RPG it's not a open world, generally your giving a location and a number of quests to do in that zone and then you move on. The zones themselves can be quite large.
4. Skill Tree is quite critical if you do a bad build you ll probably struggle.
5. Yes and some of the best story telling by a western RPG probably in the history of the genre.
6. Really Skyrim and Witcher share nothing more then being dubbed RPG's, like comparing apples and oranges.
Honestly for me the first Witcher was my favourite RPG ever made, then Witcher 2 blew things out of the water for me. The ending your either going to love or hate.0 -
jaykhunter wrote: »Didn't want to make a new thread so found this one!
I'm finding Skyrim a bit too big a scope; like the only RPGs I've ever played is Zelda, Fable and maybe Diablo 2 an ice age ago. Like about as much upgrading i'm used to is like out of Dead Space...! Anyway i feel a bit 'left to my own devices' and i've no idea what i'm doing (i'd like a few different skill trees to upgrade, not 25 or so!) -- even if (say, pickpocketing and other stuff) opened out later it'd be a vast improvement so i have a better idea......I'm looking for something smaller in scope; similar but more tightly scripted.
So i remembered.......i think it was Shadowhearth who recommended Witcher 2 instead. I've a couple q's about Witcher 2 :
How long is the game?
is there joypad support? (deal breaker for me, i'm a new pc gamer)
Is it open world or a defined path to go through?
How big is the skill trees and that kind of thing?
Are there cutscenes?
Pros and Cons when relating to Skyrim?
cheers
how long: Very long, i did it in 25hours and i was on hasty side, if you will do it properly, you can be stuck there for freaking ages. then there is very important thing. in the end of chapter 1 you will have to choose. trust it, it will be a hard choice m8. now from that moment on your game completely changes. and i mean it does not changes as just a few dialogs down the line, no, you will be on the other side of war. so after chapter 1 you got 2 separate games.
is it open world? Its not as open as skyrim, but it is not a liniar game. where skyrim takes you with quantity, witcher takes you with quality with a capital Q.
complexity: well, its not hard to jump in and start. skill trees are easy to understand, but other stuff might be a bit tricky. thought its not a rocket science.
cutscenes: there are a few, but game it self very cinematic and reeks with quality and visuals. This game is going to push your rig m8. Its most beautiful game last year.
pros and cons:
just go get witcher before i put a cap in your arse. are we clear?0 -
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thanks guys. What's this Enhanced Edition? Should i hold out for that? Also where'd be the cheapest play to buy it - i looked in brick and mortar stores today and couldn't find it :mad: gog? steam?
wow, this end of chapter one thing sounds pretty amazing and 25 hours + side quests sounds much more doable. i'll have to play it 0 -
jaykhunter wrote: »thanks guys. What's this Enhanced Edition? Should i hold out for that? Also where'd be the cheapest play to buy it - i looked in brick and mortar stores today and couldn't find it :mad: gog? steam?
wow, this end of chapter one thing sounds pretty amazing and 25 hours + side quests sounds much more doable. i'll have to play it
i would get it on gog just because all the money will go to developer. though check the prices online, it should be around 20eu.
now this will blow your mind, but witcher was giving the upgrades and DLC for free to all pc people. yes, that stuff that other charge you a **** load money for, cd project red gives for free. so now with enhanced edition which is coming out for xbox 360, will be an free upgrade to all pc game owners. yup, free too.
so there is no point to hold out m8. just go and find best deal online to take that awesome game!0 -
jaykhunter wrote: »thanks guys. What's this Enhanced Edition? Should i hold out for that? Also where'd be the cheapest play to buy it - i looked in brick and mortar stores today and couldn't find it :mad: gog? steam?
wow, this end of chapter one thing sounds pretty amazing and 25 hours + side quests sounds much more doable. i'll have to play it
It's the most up to date version of the game with added content. It generally tends to be the best version of the game.
Ha well that will depend on how well you engage with the story and like your writing/characters.0 -
jaykhunter wrote: »thanks guys. What's this Enhanced Edition? Should i hold out for that? Also where'd be the cheapest play to buy it - i looked in brick and mortar stores today and couldn't find it :mad: gog? steam?
wow, this end of chapter one thing sounds pretty amazing and 25 hours + side quests sounds much more doable. i'll have to play it
It's not out yet but if you buy the game for the PC you'll get a free download next month sometime to upgrade.0 -
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jaykhunter wrote: »alright alright i'm buying it! GOG and Steam are €40 though. Any other sites i can check for better prices? I mean for download, I see it for ~20 on play. Dunno if i can wait ~2 weeks to play it!
Gamestop.ie have it listed for €24. It's the premium edition too with some extra content like the soundtrack and game guide.
http://www.gamestop.ie/36305_PC_The_Witcher_2_Assassins_Of_Kings_Premium_Edition.aspx
You might need to email them and check they actually have it though. They've been known to list games as in stock on older titles and then not fulfill them.0 -
jaykhunter wrote: »alright alright i'm buying it! GOG and Steam are €40 though. Any other sites i can check for better prices? I mean for download, I see it for ~20 on play. Dunno if i can wait ~2 weeks to play it!
It should show up on sale during the Steam Easter Sales but that would also involve waiting.0 -
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, another game must have come out or I reinstalled Windows or something, will deff give it another go this week. 
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