"Trigger" McAteer getting decked by Stephen Cluxton at charity soccer game in Santry

stovelid

stumpypeeps wrote: »

I'm not the biggest fan of Horse racing. Doesn't mean I don't take some pride in our ability to produce world class horses. I got a great kick out of Cheltenham this year. Some Irish pride restored after all the problems we're currently having fiscally.

Horse racing doesn't take up the cudgels against Brit sports and try and kill off other sports clubs thankfully.

For that reason, it's still fine by me.

Warper

Wow, a Dublin footballer hitting a soccer player after niggles at a charity match. Well done Evening Herald on another fab story. Where was Fat Freddie in all of this? I take it Rooney shouting "fcuk off" to the world was the back-page story.

Het-Field

keane2097 wrote: »

What?

I'm merely pointing out a much worse incident by a chavball player (if we're using colloquial names we might as well do it for both).

The difference is Cluxton didn't try to disguise his action, he was probably provoked more and his wasn't exactly life-threatening.

Apologies. I didnt mean to come across as confrontational, and I should have chosen my words more carefully.

It is just, I recall McAteer also throwing a nasty dig into Number 3 after the kung-fu cameo. It was nasty, clanestine, and cowardly. The video on YouTube bears that out.

Essien

keane2097 wrote: »

Claiming that GAA is the only sport that values people being aggressive and occasionally smacking someone upside da face is pretty way off as well.

Well I didn't really say its the only sport but I would say it's at least more acceptable (a fair bit more) in GAA than Soccer for example.

stumpypeeps

stovelid wrote: »

Horse racing doesn't take up the cudgels against Brit sports and try and kill off other sports clubs thankfully.

For that reason, it's still fine by me.

I think thats a bit of an antiquated view at this stage.

Sir Gallagher

keane2097 wrote: »

What?

I'm merely pointing out a much worse incident by a chavball player (if we're using colloquial names we might as well do it for both).

The difference is Cluxton didn't try to disguise his action, he was probably provoked more and his wasn't exactly life-threatening.

Unnecessary violence in sport is either ok or it's not, people can't just pick and choose depending on what sport or who's involved.

Pauleta

Warper wrote: »

Wow, a Dublin footballer hitting a soccer player after niggles at a charity match. Well done Evening Herald on another fab story. Where was Fat Freddie in all of this? I take it Rooney shouting "fcuk off" to the world was the back-page story.

Fat Freddie and his gang were in the stands organising an illegal betting ring and importing heroin from some guy in Afghanistan who has links to Al Qaeda

ShooterSF

stumpypeeps wrote: »

Are you ashamed to be Irish because of GAA?

Is the GAA ashamed to be Irish because of me? Because I have as much a connection to it as it does me. Or as much a connection as between it and riverdance.
Why would I be ashamed to be Irish because of some sport played in the country?

3hn2givr7mx1sc

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

Unnecessary violence in sport is either ok or it's not, people can't just pick and choose depending on what sport or who's involved.

Untrue, imo.
A box is much more acceptable in rugby(for example) than in say basketball or baseball.

stovelid

stumpypeeps wrote: »

I think thats a bit of an antiquated view at this stage.

Not for me and many others it isn't.

I'll support any sports cub (in any code) going but the sooner that club and any club that aided them curl up and die the better and you can quote me on that.

Rowley Birkin QC

super_furry wrote: »

You can't seriously try to take credit for that.

I'm not taking credit for anything. I don't need to label myself as a GAA or Soccer person.

The fact that it was a rugby game in that stadium speaks volumes for the leaps and strides forward that the GAA has taken.

ShooterSF

baz2009 wrote: »

Untrue, imo.
A box is much more acceptable in rugby(for example) than in say basketball or baseball.

And even more in boxing match!
Doesn't mean it should happen in a football match.

stumpypeeps

ShooterSF wrote: »

Is the GAA ashamed to be Irish because of me? Because I have as much a connection to it as it does me. Or as much a connection as between it and riverdance.
Why would I be ashamed to be Irish because of some sport played in the country?

I doubt you're on their radar to be honest.

3hn2givr7mx1sc

ShooterSF wrote: »

And even more in boxing match!
Doesn't mean it should happen in a football match.

I was tempted to say boxing, but then I noticed he said 'unneccessary violence'.:pac:
I agree. Shouldn't happen in sport at all, but still I can't help but love a good fight in a match. It shows how passionate the players are about it, some would say they should show it in other ways.

super_furry

Rowley Birkin QC wrote: »

I'm not taking credit for anything. I don't need to label myself as a GAA or Soccer person.

The fact that it was a rugby game in that stadium speaks volumes for the leaps and strides forward that the GAA has taken.

No it speaks volumes for the political pressure and the €€€ signs in the GAA's eyes. Rule 42 hasn't gone away you know...

Het-Field

super_furry wrote: »

No it speaks volumes for the political pressure and the €€€ signs in the GAA's eyes. Rule 42 hasn't gone away you know...

Is the glass ceiling broken ? Yes or no ?

stumpypeeps

super_furry wrote: »

No it speaks volumes for the political pressure and the €€€ signs in the GAA's eyes. Rule 42 hasn't gone away you know...

What impact does Rule 42 have on other sports in this country? Honestly, looking for a genuine answer.

ShooterSF

stumpypeeps wrote: »

I doubt you're on their radar to be honest.

Exactamundo. Their irishness and mine are independent of each other. I can find the sport boring and some of its supporters backwards, I stress some, without feeling any less Irish.

Rowley Birkin QC

super_furry wrote: »

No it speaks volumes for the political pressure and the €€€ signs in the GAA's eyes. Rule 42 hasn't gone away you know...

You seem to be stuck on repeat so I'll leave you at it.

The fact remains that the GAA accommodated rugby and soccer, with good grace and respect, when they needed somewhere to host their home games. I don't really care about the money side of it as there were obviously negotiations and I would presume no-one was held at gunpoint and made to sign the contracts.

Paulw

Am I the only one who was at the game yesterday???

Aside from this one incident, otherwise, it was a very good game of football, and a brilliant charity event.

McAteer really didn't like being shown up, and was a few times. This one was enough for him, and he kicked out. Unfortunately for him, and Cluxton, Cluxton struck out and connected.

parker kent

Only a fool would use the actions of a few people to describe the many. We could be here all day in a píssing contest. Soccer, GAA, rugby, whatever they all have had incidents of needless violence. If any of the posters spouting the "bogball animal" nonsense need to be reminded I'll say one name, Zinedine Zidane. Every sport has had unseemly violence. To pretend otherwise makes you look foolish.

All sports have had idiotic things happen in charity games too. There'll always be idiots regardless of what sport it is.

The anti-GAA stuff on here is just sad. As is the "sure he deserved it" type posts. Cluxton was wrong. McAteer was wrong. Doesn't mean all GAA players are thugs. Same way Zidane doesn't make all footballers thugs or a dive doesn't make all players pansies.

ShooterSF

baz2009 wrote: »

I was tempted to say boxing, but then I noticed he said 'unneccessary violence'.:pac:
I agree. Shouldn't happen in sport at all, but still I can't help but love a good fight in a match. It shows how passionate the players are about it, some would say they should show it in other ways.

Oh I love a good fight too but that was an atrack. A fight happens when both parties agree to one.

I don't really even have a problem with someone loosing their cool and striking out if they're man enough to apologise. What I don't like is the cheering this assault is getting from some biggoted onlookers.

major bill

baz2009 wrote: »

I was tempted to say boxing, but then I noticed he said 'unneccessary violence'.:pac:
I agree. Shouldn't happen in sport at all, but still I can't help but love a good fight in a match. It shows how passionate the players are about it, some would say they should show it in other ways.

why is it that people knocking seven shades of sh1t out of each other on the pitch is passion but ''fans'' battering each other in a park is hooliganism and a potential fine/prison sentence????

stovelid

Rowley Birkin QC wrote: »

The fact remains that the GAA accommodated rugby and soccer, with good grace and respect, when they needed somewhere to host their home games.

Nope.

They temporarily rescinded the rule to make massive financial hay while the sun shone; made full use of the excellent public relations opportunity of being able to pass off a canny financial move (with no actual obligation to permanently change the rule) as altruism and also no doubt got the biggest and most satisfying shot of schadenfreude in the entire history watching the Brit sports with the begging bowl out.

Result, as they say.

keane2097

Het-Field wrote: »

Apologies. I didnt mean to come across as confrontational, and I should have chosen my words more carefully.

It is just, I recall McAteer also throwing a nasty dig into Number 3 after the kung-fu cameo. It was nasty, clanestine, and cowardly. The video on YouTube bears that out.

lol - that's even better then!

No need for the apologies, I just didn't understand what you meant.

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

Unnecessary violence in sport is either ok or it's not, people can't just pick and choose depending on what sport or who's involved.

Why?

Black and white blanket statements like that are almost always incorrect.

kraggy

super_furry wrote: »

Typical GAA thugery.

ONE Gaa player lets fly after being provoked and it seemingly represents the behaviour of ALL Gaa players?

Soby wrote: »

Better quality pic







Plus Tweets between Bernard Dunne and Dublin Footballers :P

This seems to be the issue that is making most of you anti-GAA posters get into a tizzy about this story. It was Bernard Dunne making these tweets, not someone posting on here.

But no, ye couldn't wait to start another GAA-bashing episode.

Headshot wrote: »

god I hate that ****ing sport

full of thugs

Yes, every GAA player is a thug.

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

Bogball animals. can't even behave for charity

Yes, all members of hurling and football in all 32 counties were playing in the charity match and they ALL decked Jason McAteer.

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

If it was a soccer player who did this there'd be uproar but because it's a GAA player he's a "hardman".

Who said he's a hardman? One guy behaves stupidly and irresponsibly at a charity match (even though provoked, he shouldn't have hit out) and y'all can't wait to lay into the GAA.

The irony is that you are behaving in just a despicable manner as Cluxton is, its just different. Why can't you just enjoy watching soccer and leave the GAA off? Don't watch it if you don't want to. Don't support it in any way if you don't feel like it. Why do you feel so bitter about something that does not have to affect your life in any tangible way at all?

But for goodness sake, grow up and don't be making yourselves look equally as immature as Cluxton does in that photo.

Rowley Birkin QC

stovelid wrote: »

Nope.

They temporarily rescinded the rule to make massive financial hay while the sun shone; made full use of the excellent public relations opportunity of being able to pass off a canny financial move (with no actual obligation to permanently change the rule) as altruism and also no doubt got the biggest and most satisfying shot of schadenfreude in the entire history watching the Brit sports with the begging bowl out.

Result, as they say.

To be fair, that is entirely your spin on things. Backward and smallminded I believe were the terms used earlier in the thread.

The cold hard facts are that the games were hosted there, nothing you can say changes that fact.

keane2097

keane2097 wrote: »

Why?

Black and white blanket statements like that are almost always incorrect.

Actually his statement is even dumber than that. "Unnecessary violence is always unnecessary or it's not" is essentially what he is saying. The framing of the statement makes it unarguable. He also happens to be making a blanket value judgment on a massively subjective area.

That said most of this thread has been LOLstupid so there's no real point in squabbling over the semantics of logical discourse.

Turtyturd

Gotta love the GAA lads who give it loads in situations like this, yet curl up in a ball and cry during the International rules series.

Paulw

I must say, Bernard Dunne, Stephen Cluxton and also Pat Gilroy are all very good at football. Gilroy scored a very good goal.