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Transfers for next season (including transfer rumours!)

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    #1052
    thomond2006
    Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Losing Laidlaw is a disaster for Edinburgh. There's no chance of them being able to recruit a player close to his quality.

    Edit: Although, going by this thread the Edinburgh fans don't seem too miffed: http://www.edinburghgunners.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=6495&start=15


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    #1053
    Buer
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    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    He'll be replacing Freddie Burns. Not sure what they're going to do at 9!

    Did Laidlaw not speak openly in the past of his preference for playing 9?


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    #1054
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Buer wrote: »
    Did Laidlaw not speak openly in the past of his preference for playing 9?

    I'm not sure, but my preference is for him to play 9. He's much better there.


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    #1055
    razorblunt
    Registered Users Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    thomond2006 wrote: »
    Losing Laidlaw is a disaster for Edinburgh. There's no chance of them being able to recruit a player close to his quality.

    Edit: Although, going by this thread the Edinburgh fans don't seem too miffed: http://www.edinburghgunners.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=6495&start=15

    I don't think it is too much of a disaster, they'll miss his calming influence though, folk here are happy with the prospect of Grayson Hart and Leonard running 9 and 10 so that's calmed them somewhat.
    It's also seen as a good opportunity for Laidlaw to bolster his pension fund. Hope he has more luck than Rory Lawson down there.


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    #1056
    former legend
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,309 ✭✭✭former legend


    So Wales and Lions prop Adam Jones could be moving to the Dragons (of all people) next season, according to Wales Online. He's been targetted by the WRU for a central contract and could nominate Dragons as his region.

    Also in Wales, Matt Morgan will not be kept on by Ospreys. That's bananas, he could turn out to be a great player.


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    #1057
    CatFromHue
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,150 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    Is that Morgan the outhalf?


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    #1058
    thomond2006
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    Connacht should try to sign Morgan. Seriously!

    Cardiff and Scarlets already have established starters so that leaves the Dragons really. I'd say he'll go to Dragons or a low level Premiership club.


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    #1059
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Morgan has always been a bit overrated by posters on here. He's not as good as advertised, but he could be a goid backup for a premiership side, Gloucester might be a good fit I think.


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    #1060
    LeeroyJones
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    Confirmation of Hudson to Bristol along with O'Connell

    http://www.leinsterrugby.ie/news/11558.php#.Uxc4e_l_tHU

    They look well equipped for promotion so hopefully regular Prem Rugby for the lads next season


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    #1061
    former legend
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    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    Morgan has always been a bit overrated by posters on here. He's not as good as advertised, but he could be a goid backup for a premiership side, Gloucester might be a good fit I think.

    I think that's a bit harsh, the guy is still only 21 and has never had regular first-team rugby so there is still massive room for development in his game. There was talk of Leicester and Northampton being interested but apparently Dragons is the most likely.


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    #1062
    CatFromHue
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    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    Morgan has always been a bit overrated by posters on here. He's not as good as advertised, but he could be a goid backup for a premiership side, Gloucester might be a good fit I think.

    He'll be 22 in April so he's still got a good bit of developing to do.

    If he does go to the Dragons and so does Adam Jones then with Lee Byrne and Aled Brew coming back they could well be the 2nd best team in Wales.


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    #1063
    JohnFalstaff
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    Connacht should try to sign Morgan. Seriously!

    Could compliment our Welsh scrum-half nicely!


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    #1064
    Buer
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    Genuinely disappointed to see JOC moving on but I can't blame him. He's 4th choice. He is a guy that could be first choice elsewhere in Ireland. Hopefully he stands out at Bristol and gets a look in at a province.

    It's essential Bristol get promoted though or else the move could be a disaster.


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    #1065
    thomond2006
    Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Morgan has gone to Bristol: http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/rugby-union/26448128

    They're spending big, they better get promoted!


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    #1066
    Ugo Monye spacecraft experience
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    Jesus the Rabo is taking some hit with this Welsh and Scottish exodus


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    #1067
    justsomebloke
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    From a development point of view they are some good signings as they're all young enough players that could take them places.


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    #1068
    damianmcr
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    Only seen Morgan play once a few weeks ago but he tortured the Ulster defence. He looked fantastic.


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    #1069
    thomond2006
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    Ugo Monye spacecraft experience wrote: »
    Jesus the Rabo is taking some hit with this Welsh and Scottish exodus

    The only hope for its dwindling competitiveness is the race for Europe.


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    #1070
    nerd69
    Registered Users Posts: 9,860 ✭✭✭nerd69


    Ugo Monye spacecraft experience wrote: »
    Jesus the Rabo is taking some hit with this Welsh and Scottish exodus

    the welsh and scottish exodus and the irish "not taking it seriously":rolleyes:


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    #1071
    Hagz
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    Bristol have also signed Jack Lam. Serious acquisitions.


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    #1072
    jacothelad
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    Hagz wrote: »
    Bristol have also signed Jack Lam. Serious acquisitions.

    ...and Matthew Morgan.


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    #1073
    Hagz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,257 ✭✭✭Hagz


    jacothelad wrote: »
    ...and Matthew Morgan.

    …and Jack O'Connell.


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    #1074
    accidentprone1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 541 ✭✭✭accidentprone1


    Hagz wrote: »
    …and Jack O'Connell.

    ...and my axe.


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    #1075
    [Jackass]
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    The only hope for its dwindling competitiveness is the race for Europe.

    Even this season it's evident how much the competitiveness in the league is dropping off. More or less 7 of the 12 teams in the league are absolutely useless, with teams like Cardiff on the steepest downward curve, and whilst Ospreys can still just about be considered a decent team, in 2 seasons if not next season they'll be another joke shop. It's a terrible situation. Looking at the league table this season already shows the massive gulf between the top 5 and everyone else.

    All that will be left will be Leinster, Munster, Ulster & Glasgow + 8 mediocre and barely sustainable entities.


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    #1076
    .ak
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    Morgan reminds me of Madigan a lot. Fantastic rugby player but lacks the ability to step back and think a few phases ahead and control the game. The AP is the prime place for him to learn that.

    Bristol signing some quality fringe players. You'd have to assume joc and Hudson were cheap, relatively speaking.


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    #1077
    astonaidan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭astonaidan


    [Jackass] wrote: »
    Even this season it's evident how much the competitiveness in the league is dropping off. More or less 7 of the 12 teams in the league are absolutely useless, with teams like Cardiff on the steepest downward curve, and whilst Ospreys can still just about be considered a decent team, in 2 seasons if not next season they'll be another joke shop. It's a terrible situation. Looking at the league table this season already shows the massive gulf between the top 5 and everyone else.

    All that will be left will be Leinster, Munster, Ulster & Glasgow + 8 mediocre and barely sustainable entities.
    Uh the West will rise!! :mad:


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    #1078
    hype101
    Registered Users Posts: 199 ✭✭hype101


    Chris Farrell signed a 1 year deal with Grenoble.. What's surprising is that there is no indication that it's a loan deal.. The article signs off with "the length of the deal could see a return to the Province for Farrell in the not too distant future." Surely Ulster have some buy-back rights.. Most promising 12 in the country in my view.

    http://www.newsletter.co.uk/sport/rugby/chris-farrell-to-leave-ulster-for-french-pastures-1-5907771?WT.mc_id=Outbrain_text&obref=obinsite


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    #1079
    thomond2006
    Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Unless Ulster have agreed to release Farrell early from a contract then they won't have a buy-back clause. By the looks of it Farrell was a free agent and could sign with anyone.


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    #1080
    CatFromHue
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,150 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    [Jackass] wrote: »
    Even this season it's evident how much the competitiveness in the league is dropping off. More or less 7 of the 12 teams in the league are absolutely useless, with teams like Cardiff on the steepest downward curve, and whilst Ospreys can still just about be considered a decent team, in 2 seasons if not next season they'll be another joke shop. It's a terrible situation. Looking at the league table this season already shows the massive gulf between the top 5 and everyone else.

    All that will be left will be Leinster, Munster, Ulster & Glasgow + 8 mediocre and barely sustainable entities.

    I think there's always been a divide between the big teams and the not so big teams. Take for example:

    11/12 6pts between 6th and 7th and then 13 between 7th and 8th
    10/11 11pts between 6th and 7th
    09/10 there was no big gaps really
    08/09 12pts between 4th and 5th
    07/08 7pts between 5th and 6th
    06/07 there was no big gaps

    So I'd say we've always had a top 4 or 5 teams each season since 07/08 which have been a good bit stronger than the rest.

    I think the Rabo fairs fairly well in this aspect compared to other leagues. Take the Aviva Premiership

    11/12 10pts between 5th and 6th
    10/11 9pts between 2nd and 3rd and 8pts between 5th and 6th
    09/10 8pts between 3rd and 4th
    08/09 there was no big gaps
    07/08 7pts between 7th and 8th and then 15 between 8th and 9th
    06/07 8pts between 5th and 6th


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    #1081
    pickarooney
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    The only hope for its dwindling competitiveness is the race for Europe.

    The Rabo should take the 6th SA franchise and an Argentina club side. There'd be some great away days.


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