Galway GAA discussion thread

weshtawake

Is hogan still out with the broken arm??

brookville

weshtawake wrote: »

Is hogan still out with the broken arm??

Broken bone in is hand.it's expected he will only be in the bench shane prendergast is almost certain to be out with lennon or jackie fighting for the number 4 shirt that will be the only change from the dublin victory

King Mallie

Is the game shown on rte??

Toblerone1978

I have 2 very good tickets for sale for the game tomorrow. They are in sec 307. €50 for the two of them.

Please PM me if you're interested.

Toblerone1978

Toblerone1978 wrote: »

I have 2 very good tickets for sale for the game tomorrow. They are in sec 307. €50 for the two of them.

Please PM me if you're interested.

It can be hard to shift tickets for these games with an abundance of space.

What I would say is, if you're in the City and aren't travelling, you could try get to the bus station for the supporters bus and see would one of the Galway crew take them off you.

For someone not travelling and little options, the supporters bus would definitely be the best place to try as a last resort.

Edit:

Actually there's two buses and the second goes through the towns so you could meet it on the journey.

TRIBESMEN SUPPORTERS CLUB will be running buses on Sunday 3rd July for the Leinster Final -Galway v Kilkenny hurling match in Croke Park.
Pick-ups from Ceannt Station @ 10.00am / Oranmore @ 10.10am Craughwell @ 10.20am Loughrea @ 10.30am/ Kilreekil at 10.40 and Ballinasloe 11.00am. Seats on a first come first served basis to TSC members only. Tickets €10.00 return Please advise cancellations ASAP.

Diabhal Beag

Those buses might be full. Get in touch asap because at least if you can't get on there's loads of Gobuses etc going up.

Toblerone1978

Thanks. But I'm actually based in the enemy's terriority!

Yeah, i agree it might be fairly hard to shift them. For what it's worth I can email them too.

mullinr2

Which Kilkenny player is going to get a Tannion or Andy Smith special tomorrow. Scumbags the both of them

christy c

mullinr2 wrote: »

Which Kilkenny player is going to get a Tannion or Andy Smith special tomorrow. Scumbags the both of them

Those in glasshouses shouldn't throw stones

mullinr2

I agree , however those two players have a history of trying to injure kk players. Two of the dirtiest players of the last 5 years

Diabhal Beag

Tan and Smith are saints in comparison to David Burke. He's the last man you want to take your eye off regardless of where the ball is.

MfMan

mullinr2 wrote: »

I agree , however those two players have a history of trying to injure kk players. Two of the dirtiest players of the last 5 years

WUM back on your own thread. Mick Fennelly gave a sly dig to Canning in the AI last year if you'll remember.

donnem33

thought we played quite well today. Gearoid Mc, Joe Cooney and Johnny Coen need to be replaced for the quarter final if we harbour ambitions of going further - very honest hard working players but just not up to the required standard for this level.

bitterly disappointing day but we just need to tip the hat to kk and admit we're not far away but just not quite good enough!

TCDStudent1

donnem33 wrote: »

thought we played quite well today. Gearoid Mc, Joe Cooney and Johnny Coen need to be replaced for the quarter final if we harbour ambitions of going further - very honest hard working players but just not up to the required standard for this level.

bitterly disappointing day but we just need to tip the hat to kk and admit we're not far away but just not quite good enough!

Who would you replace them with?

from_atozinc

Didn't get to see the match.

Any general summary of it?

Should Callanan have saved the goal?
Did Galway do well to score 20 odd points?
Any players play well?

donnem33

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

Who would you replace them with?

Fergal moore / colm flynn for johnny coen, paul kileen for gearoid mc and jason flynn for joe cooney

Lollipop95

I'm surprised Jason Flynn hasn't got his place on the panel next year. He was superb last year!

Diabhal Beag

Actually thought McInerney wasn't too bad but Coen really is having a turgid year. Glennon let the game go by him and even Daithi Burke was poor giving two points on a platter to Hogan. Just not good enough against the best.

Whelan came out of this very well. An absolute workhorse who could be great in a few years.

Too depressing to think anymore about today. Onwards and upwards but a tough Clare side in Thurles seems like a real possibility.

TCDStudent1

donnem33 wrote: »

Fergal moore / colm flynn for johnny coen, paul kileen for gearoid mc and jason flynn for joe cooney

I agree with Flynn for Cooney. Seems very strange he is not starting as he is a very good player. Anybody know what his form is like at the moment?

Thought Cooney did quite well in the first half though.

Personally, I felt Glennon was left on far too long today and was surprised he wasnt brought off earlier.

donnem33

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

I agree with Flynn for Cooney. Seems very strange he is not starting as he is a very good player. Anybody know what his form is like at the moment?

Thought Cooney did quite well in the first half though.

Personally, I felt Glennon was left on far too long today and was surprised he wasnt brought off earlier.

he was ok in the first half id agree and took his scores well but he doesnt offer enough at this level and has no pace!

our midfield were totally non existent and was surprised changes werent made sooner. it ll take them a while to get over this...wouldnt fancy them in a qfinal v clare atm

threeball

donnem33 wrote: »

thought we played quite well today. Gearoid Mc, Joe Cooney and Johnny Coen need to be replaced for the quarter final if we harbour ambitions of going further - very honest hard working players but just not up to the required standard for this level.

bitterly disappointing day but we just need to tip the hat to kk and admit we're not far away but just not quite good enough!

How could you think we played well. A carbon copy of the A IF which we obviously learned nothing from. Km employed exactly the same second half tactics again today and we did the same stupid stuff again. They condensed their fb and hb lines and we launched ball after ball on top of them which they inevitably won and drilled ball directly to a 3 man forward line which we couldn't contain. They did exactly the same last year. So the whole management heave made not a jot of difference as donoghue isn't any more astute than Cunningham.

Rob Thomas

Terrible second half performance and too much more of the same from these players.

Joe Cooney is simply not up to this level, I was very disappointed in Niall Burke, I thought he would be better. But overall, despite their high opinions of themselves the majority of the players are not good enough.

Donoghue is a nice guy, but he's woefully out of his depth trying to sort out the egos in that squad.

Same old Galway.

donnem33

threeball wrote: »

How could you think we played well. A carbon copy of the A IF which we obviously learned nothing from. Km employed exactly the same second half tactics again today and we did the same stupid stuff again. They condensed their fb and hb lines and we launched ball after ball on top of them which they inevitably won and drilled ball directly to a 3 man forward line which we couldn't contain. They did exactly the same last year. So the whole management heave made not a jot of difference as donoghue isn't any more astute than Cunningham.

We were leading until KK got the goal in the 45th min and had them under a lot of pressure. If killian Buckley didn't clear the ball off the line from Cyril Donnellan who know what might have happened.

Its all well and good knowing what kk will do in the second half - its another thing entirely stopping it! The harsh reality is kk are just better than us - and no shame in that as they are better than every other team too!! Its hard to see them being stopped this year again

reap-a-rat

I thought there was a lot of good play from Galway but coupled with that was some shocking clearing of the ball that lead directly to a lot of KK's scores. I'd like to watch the game back and count how many times there was some excellent winning of the ball only for it to be hooshed up the field straight to a KK player (completely aimless, there'd not be a maroon shirt in sight!) and either that KK player or the next man he'd pass to would shoot and score. It lead to so many scores for them. KK did the same thing once in the game by my count - it was a lot easier to keep track of on that side because it just didn't happen much.

It's a good point of KK's game that they can put players under such pressure that they feel this is the only option but surely after a couple of times of it happening, the players on the field need to react and drop back to offer support? The wasted possession just killed us yesterday, and it killed us long before the goal went in because it was those scores that kept KK ticking over when we were on top in the aggression stakes and seemed really up for it.

That's just my thought on it but I wouldn't be as clued in on structures and tactics in hurling as some on here.

MfMan

Rob Thomas wrote: »

Terrible second half performance and too much more of the same from these players.

Joe Cooney is simply not up to this level, I was very disappointed in Niall Burke, I thought he would be better. But overall, despite their high opinions of themselves the majority of the players are not good enough.

Donoghue is a nice guy, but he's woefully out of his depth trying to sort out the egos in that squad.

Same old Galway.

Ridiculously too early to start judging MD. Yesterday's final for me was the end of an era, in that from now on the mgmt team have to put their own stamp on the squad. (They probably need to be a bit fitter / sharper for a start.) The same players who haven't been doing it need to be sidelined and I think the squad needs a bit of rejuvenation to freshen it up. From yesterday, the backs weren't at all bad I thought. Hanbury saw off C Fennelly, P Mannion didn't give Larkin a ball, Gearoid Mc was surprisingly good and gave W Walsh plenty of it, Daithi stuck as well as anyone has to TJ Reid, Harte could/should be under pressure as he just isn't sharp enough while Coen's form is a real disappointment, but maybe he could be pushed into midfield to complement David Burke. Fergal Moore isn't the future either, but Killeen didn't do so bad when he came on while Turlough' lads will tell you Kevin Hussey is close enough to making the breakthrough. The defence may be criticised for clearing the ball straight to KK players yesterday, but in reality they were under pressure anyway and the HF line faded badly in the 2nd half. Ignore criticism of Daithi Burke, I thought he and P Mannion were both excellent yesterday.

Midfield was really poor where David Burke didn't raise his usual gallop, while his misplaced clearance before ht was unforgivable for a man of his ability. Glennon scored a good point, but if he has to be moved out of it later and eventually subbed, then he isn't the answer there. Midfield should mostly finish as it started.

Forwards good and bad; Whelan and C Mannion's return to form are both promising, while Conor Cooney came into it well in the second half, though his best work comes in loose play, really needs to improve in tight exchanges. JC, as has been said, had one of his quietest days ever and will be very keen I'm sure to put it right the next day. On the bad side, Joe Cooney faded once again, and if he never seems to complete a full game for Galway then he just isn't good enough. Niall Burke's lack of appetite for the physical stuff is too much of a burden to carry and can no longer be started. Cyril D had the same game as he's nearly always had for Galway; couple of good catches, meandering run, fall down, cede possession, swing, hooked, blocked, an odd point. He has just never improved, and great lad with a great heart and attitude though he is, he just can't be carried anymore. Andy Smith did ok when introduced, but neither he nor Tannian are the future either, and are too well known and predictable at this stage too.

Off the top of my head, my team for the next day should be something like;
Callinan
P Mannion
Hanbury
Killeen / Hussey,
Gearoid
Daithi
Harte (if he improves)
Coen
David Burke
C Mannion
??? (Brian Molloy?)
C Cooney
Whelan
JC
Flynn


Mgmt have nothing to lose now by changing things around,

from_atozinc

I seen one very annoying thing on Sunday Game. Joe canning around left half back clearing a ball up the field to the Kilkenny half back lane and straight to an unmarked KK player.......probably where canning should have been. Complete and utter waste. They got a point from it I think. Will we ever learn.

aidan24326

from_atozinc wrote: »

Didn't get to see the match.

Any general summary of it?

Should Callanan have saved the goal?
Did Galway do well to score 20 odd points?
Any players play well?

A general summary is that it was similiar to the All Ireland Final. Galway were on top in the first half against an underperforming KK but never managed to pull away from them. Gave away a few soft scores and a couple of handy frees which allowed KK to stay in touch even though they were playing poorly by their standards.

Second half KK stepped it up a notch and bossed the show again. Their ability to win primary possession is what sets them apart, time and again Galway players came off second best in those ball-winning duels.

Callanan could have saved the goal yes but was off balance and I wouldn't blame hime too much. He had a decent game. As for players who played well, the backs in general didn't fare too bad, but midfield were cleaned out in the second half and up front Joe Canning had a poor game and Niall Burke was anonymous and should have been taken off much sooner. Cathal Mannion and Conor Whelan were good. Cyril came on and did what he usually does, win the ball and then not sure what to do with it, give it away. Johhny Glynn's ball winning ability and direct running style is definitely missed.

Joseph Cooney shouldn't really be starting at centre forward and I'd say in terms of changes Jason Flynn ought to be be back in the team the next day while Niall Burke will do well to hold his place after a very poor showing yesterday.

Utopia Parkway

aidan24326 wrote: »

Callanan could have saved the goal yes but was off balance and I wouldn't blame hime too much. He had a decent game.

I think Callanan was bracing himself to try and save a rocket of a shot (which he already did in the first half) and in the end Farrell completely mis-hit it and it actually worked out better for him as Callanan was off balance and the dribbler along the ground actually went in under him.

Joseph Cooney sadly is just not up to this level. He tries but his hurling isn't slick enough and he doesn't have the fitness either to last championship pace. Niall Burke's hurling definitely is good enough. A lovely striker of a ball. However for a big lad he lacks aggression. Any time the intensity and physicality levels raise he disappears. Can't carry two passengers like that in the half-forward line.

Rob Thomas

MfMan wrote: »

Ridiculously too early to start judging MD. Yesterday's final for me was the end of an era, in that from now on the mgmt team have to put their own stamp on the squad. (They probably need to be a bit fitter / sharper for a start.) The same players who haven't been doing it need to be sidelined and I think the squad needs a bit of rejuvenation to freshen it up. d,

I agree and I wouldn't be very hard on Donoghue. I just think he is on a loser trying to get improvements out of the same guys that have been proved unable year on year. I agree he needs to clear out a lot and start again. Hopefully he will be given the support and time to do so.

I would fault him however on the lack of fitness in the team and the positioning of Joe Cooney and a couple of others yesterday. They did look underprepared. Many were also hard on him for failing to counteract the new KK match ups in the second half where the KK Forwards chose their own markers really. Although when KK get up a head of steam it is hard to live with it.

I think he will learn a lot from yesterday and there will be a few casualties the next day in terms of personnel. I think he will feel let down by some guys he stuck his neck out for.

But I agree with your post.

h2005

Did Flynn touch the ball when he came on?