Farming Chit Chat

pakalasa

Quick questions - I had a cow calf last night, @ 3am. She took a while pushing, maybe 2 hours or so, before the blister or water sac showed. Now, the blister never burst, and she calved away easy enough. A fine CF85 Bull calf.
The calf was born completely with it's front half or more in the placenta. I ribbed it open and he started breathing. My question is how long would the calf live like this. The umbilical cord is broken so wouldnt it suffocate if the cow didn't eat it quick enough.
Cow hasn't cleaned yet either, but still under 12 hours.

Kovu

pakalasa wrote: »

Quick questions - I had a cow calf last night, @ 3am. She took a while pushing, maybe 2 hours or so, before the blister or water sac showed. Now, the blister never burst, and she calved away easy enough. A fine CF85 Bull calf.
The calf was born completely with it's front half or more in the placenta. I ribbed it open and he started breathing. My question is how long would the calf live like this. The umbilical cord is broken so wouldnt it suffocate if the cow didn't eat it quick enough.
Cow hasn't cleaned yet either, but still under 12 hours.

I'd reckon it would be pretty much the same as ourselves underwater.
A couple minutes at the very most if the cord was broken.

Grecco

pakalasa wrote: »

Quick questions - I had a cow calf last night, @ 3am. She took a while pushing, maybe 2 hours or so, before the blister or water sac showed. Now, the blister never burst, and she calved away easy enough. A fine CF85 Bull calf.
The calf was born completely with it's front half or more in the placenta. I ribbed it open and he started breathing. My question is how long would the calf live like this. The umbilical cord is broken so wouldnt it suffocate if the cow didn't eat it quick enough.
Cow hasn't cleaned yet either, but still under 12 hours.

Had the same thing this year, I managed to revive the calf with one of these
http://magentadirect.ie/proddetail.php?prod=MAE0021&cat=12
Worth every penny

MfMan

stanflt wrote: »

put out the first bit of urea yesterday-latest ever


By stanflt at 2012-03-04

Good pasture there Stanfit. Where you at? Had you that field long closed up?

whelan1

all go here this morning, water pump packed up:rolleyes: so plumber came and we lifted the pump, its only down 4 years but it was caked with iron... got it going again... aga cooker stopped going, got man to fix it.. spray man came to spray ragworth.... now having a cuppa with a curly wurly and off to check my grass

Muckit

whelan1 wrote: »

all go here this morning, water pump packed up:rolleyes: so plumber came and we lifted the pump, its only down 4 years but it was caked with iron... got it going again... aga cooker stopped going, got man to fix it.. spray man came to spray ragworth.... now having a cuppa with a curly wurly and off to check my grass

That cuppa and curly wurly were well earned by the sounds of it!!!

God you have had a busy morning!! Glad to hear all up and running again. 'You don't miss the water til the well runs dry.' Is there a back boiler on the aga?

whelan1

Muckit wrote: »

That cuppa and curly wurly were well earned by the sounds of it!!!

God you have had a busy morning!! Glad to hear all up and running again. 'You don't miss the water til the well runs dry.' Is there a back boiler on the aga?

well the aga heats the water if thats what you mean..really missed it this morning, house was freezing when i came down, it works off kerosene

Kovu

I'm kinda the same over here this morning. Puddle of water behind the stove. Hope the boiler hasn't cracked:(

Grecco

Got a kick square on the shin from a little calf this morning
Oh the pain....

pakalasa

pakalasa wrote: »

Quick questions - I had a cow calf last night, @ 3am. She took a while pushing, maybe 2 hours or so, before the blister or water sac showed. Now, the blister never burst, and she calved away easy enough. A fine CF85 Bull calf.
The calf was born completely with it's front half or more in the placenta. I ribbed it open and he started breathing. My question is how long would the calf live like this. The umbilical cord is broken so wouldnt it suffocate if the cow didn't eat it quick enough.
Cow hasn't cleaned yet either, but still under 12 hours.

The same cow had milk fever this morning. Went out before work to check on them. Went to stand her up to get calf to drink. First time we ever had it here. She was very milky though. I normaly give them a few dairy nuts after calving. I didn't in this case. It might have made the difference. Ah well, lesson learned. :mad:

whelan1

just went out to pump house to check all was still working, the cat was locked in there:o we where falling over her this morning, she could have been left there for a while....

Muckit

whelan1 wrote: »

well the aga heats the water if thats what you mean..

Ya that's what was wondering;) Ya have to be careful with them when the water goes like that. The kerosene a great job I'd say, no lugging buckets/bags of turf!

Ye probably don't know what a bog is up that side, the land is so good, not like here in the weesstt!!

whelan1

Muckit wrote: »

Ya that's what was wondering;) Ya have to be careful with them when the water goes like that. The kerosene a great job I'd say, no lugging buckets/bags of turf!

Ye probably don't know what a bog is up that side, the land is so good, not like here in the weesstt!!

MMM dont know about that , we have a road about 1km away cvalled the bog road:rolleyes: our land is very heavy... kerosene gone very dear, thats what my problem was i let it run out, so all the crap in the bottom of the tank stopped the cooker

Kovu

Just had another tooth out. I'll be a size eight by next week if last time is anything to go by:(

whelan1

Karen112 wrote: »

Just had another tooth out. I'll be a size eight by next week if last time is anything to go by:(

or you will have no teeth left:)

Kovu

whelan1 wrote: »

or you will have no teeth left:)

Oh stop..... been referred to another dentist as I get too panicky.

stanflt

MfMan wrote: »

Good pasture there Stanfit. Where you at? Had you that field long closed up?

east meath

closed off around 15november

JT2012

C0N0R wrote: »

We have a job going out here in new Zealand for a season anyway starting late may if any of you have a young lad that would be interested! Looking for someone with dairy experience preferably and a bit of responsibility. The Money isn't bad and house and all will be provided. Just thought i would mention it here before we look out here.

Hi Conor,

My wife and I are going to NZ for a year in June. I have over 9 years dairy farming experience on commercial farms in Ireland. I am a trained farm manager with AI training. I am looking for a 2IC/ Farm manager job. I was wondering could you give me some tips/ help

Much thanks

stanflt

JT2012 wrote: »

Hi Conor,

My wife and I are going to NZ for a year in June. I have over 9 years dairy farming experience on commercial farms in Ireland. I am a trained farm manager with AI training. I am looking for a 2IC/ Farm manager job. I was wondering could you give me some tips/ help

Much thanks

i have a few contacts if your interested-both north and south island

JT2012

stanflt wrote: »

i have a few contacts if your interested-both north and south island

Thanks stanflt, i would really appreciate that. Is it common enough for experienced lads to land 2IC/ farm manager jobs as their first jobs

Bodacious

pakalasa wrote: »

The same cow had milk fever this morning. Went out before work to check on them. Went to stand her up to get calf to drink. First time we ever had it here. She was very milky though. I normaly give them a few dairy nuts after calving. I didn't in this case. It might have made the difference. Ah well, lesson learned. :mad:

Hi Pak,

Is she right now? did you throw the calcium into her yourself or took no chances and got the vet out?

Bizzum

pakalasa wrote: »

Quick questions - I had a cow calf last night, @ 3am. She took a while pushing, maybe 2 hours or so, before the blister or water sac showed. Now, the blister never burst, and she calved away easy enough. A fine CF85 Bull calf.
The calf was born completely with it's front half or more in the placenta. I ribbed it open and he started breathing. My question is how long would the calf live like this. The umbilical cord is broken so wouldnt it suffocate if the cow didn't eat it quick enough.
Cow hasn't cleaned yet either, but still under 12 hours.

I've seen this too. Indeed I've seen the veil over a calf so tough that it's difficult to break by hand.
I've often wondered how long a calf would last, and came to the conclusion: Not very long!

Bizzum

Karen112 wrote: »

Just had another tooth out.

Your bark will certainly be worse than your bite, the way you're going on:D

pakalasa

Bodacious wrote: »

Hi Pak,

Is she right now? did you throw the calcium into her yourself or took no chances and got the vet out?

She's fine now, Thank God. No, I got the vet out. It's something I've never done before and I didn't have the calcium. I thought it was very rare in suckler cows. But she has so much milk she's more like a dairy cow. I only stood her up to check if the calf wanted to drink her. Rushing for work at the time - typical.
I'll keep giving her a few dairy nuts twice a day.

pakalasa

Bizzum wrote: »

I've seen this too. Indeed I've seen the veil over a calf so tough that it's difficult to break by hand.
I've often wondered how long a calf would last, and came to the conclusion: Not very long!

I wonder is it down to it being a very easy calving. The cow doesn't push enough to break the blister. She never even stood up after the blister appeared until she had him out.

leg wax

at last they are comeing to finish the tax audit today,been hanging over my head since nov.

whelan1

leg wax wrote: »

at last they are comeing to finish the tax audit today,been hanging over my head since nov.

good luck with it....

lakill Farm

i have a suck calf at home, and aother calf sems to be nibbling his ear. what can i use to treat the bite marks and also to stop the other calf from biting?

would Alum spray would cover the bite marks ok?

reilig

lakill Farm wrote: »

i have a suck calf at home, and aother calf sems to be nibbling his ear. what can i use to treat the bite marks and also to stop the other calf from biting?

would Alum spray would cover the bite marks ok?

A bit of Alum spray to treat the bites and a little bit of Stockholm Tar on top would do the trick. The calves won't like the taste of it and it will keep flies away.

lakill Farm

Where would i get stockholm tar? i would never had a need for it before so it will be a purchase item :rolleyes: