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Clonmel, No digital?

  • 04-02-2011 11:38pm
    #1
    Registered Users Posts: 352 ✭✭


    Bought the Tv in Lidl thursday, it has mpeg4 and mheg 5 . But I can't seem to get the channels on digital. I can pick up Rte1,2 and TG4 on analog, even then they are a bit grainy. Have a Uhf aerial on the roof so I should have no problem, anyone know what's wrong or what I can do?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭Mayo Exile


    What are the frequencies of your analogue stations? Could then maybe work out what mast they are coming from. It's also possible that the mast supplying your analogue reception may not yet transmit a DTT signal. Wouldnt know the area. Is DTT available in Clonmel?


  • Registered Users Posts: 352 ✭✭Rojiblancos


    Rte1 623.25, Rte2 647.25, TG4 703.30

    I think Dungarvan and Suir Valley are the nearest for DTT. Don't know if its available, I know theres plans to put a mast in Clonmel by the end of 2012 though but Im hoping I can get DTT now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,780 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Rte1 623.25, Rte2 647.25, TG4 703.30

    I think Dungarvan and Suir Valley are the nearest for DTT. Don't know if its available, I know theres plans to put a mast in Clonmel by the end of 2012 though but Im hoping I can get DTT now


    RTÉ1 40H, RTÉ 43H, TG4 50H is the local Clonmel relay. No DTT from there that we know of yet.

    Will it be one of the lucky 51 sites to be upgraded? You could drop RTÉNL an email and ask if they plan to upgrade the Clonmel transmitter for DTT.

    Suir Valley (CH 52) and Dungarvan (CH 55) are both DTT active.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    Rte1 623.25, Rte2 647.25, TG4 703.30

    I think Dungarvan and Suir Valley are the nearest for DTT. Don't know if its available, I know theres plans to put a mast in Clonmel by the end of 2012 though but Im hoping I can get DTT now

    Cahir and Kilduff will be on in the Summer. One serves Tip Sth the other Tip Nth AFAIK.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40 damo642


    Hi,

    I bought the following mpeg4 box yesterday and it doesnt work in clonmel

    http://www.powercity.ie/?par=10-23-WP11DT&brands=WALKER

    if anyone knows when freetoair will work in clonmel that would be great


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    The answer above your post ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,235 ✭✭✭lucernarian


    I doubt Cahir will offer coverage in Clonmel. I think Suir Valley would be a better bet. I don't know if the Clonmel relay will have DTT, RTENL are the best ones to ask on that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    Of course the Clonmel DTT relay serves Tip/Waterford. Infact the Clonmel transmitter is actually described as being in Waterford.

    All relays are due to come on between now and June/July.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,574 ✭✭✭cml387


    I'm getting DTT up the Cashel Road (not far up) from the transponder.
    The transponder actually is in Waterford,being across the Suir.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40 damo642


    im right beside the cashel road roundabout.....and nothing!!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 40 damo642


    cml387 - what sort of aerial are you using - i just tried rabbit ears- they work fine for the analog signals but nothing comes through on the walker freeview box


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,235 ✭✭✭lucernarian


    STB wrote: »
    Of course the Clonmel DTT relay serves Tip/Waterford. Infact the Clonmel transmitter is actually described as being in Waterford.

    All relays are due to come on between now and June/July.
    There's no DTT currently from Clonmel transposer if The Cush is to be believed...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    There's no DTT currently from Clonmel transposer if The Cush is to be believed...

    Its not on yet. Clonmel is one of the relays due to come on between now and June. Watty's list on Techtir is the list people should consult in the absence of "official" info. RTE will be launching a coverage map fairly soon.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40 damo642


    ok - i emailed rtenl and asked them. i will respond when they do...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,574 ✭✭✭cml387


    damo642 wrote: »
    cml387 - what sort of aerial are you using - i just tried rabbit ears- they work fine for the analog signals but nothing comes through on the walker freeview box


    Sorry,back again.

    Loft UHF aerial on Channel 52.

    If not from the transponder it must be Suir Valley, maybe it's just that bit of extra height makes the difference.
    The signal strength is not great,but it's perfectly ok picture wise.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Can you not put the aerial on your roof? or even a gable end facing towards pilltown co kilkenny where the suir valley tx is located.
    You lose 20db signal or more by having it in the loft.
    With digital,once you have enough signal,you get picture.
    It's digitally composed.
    It's not like analogue.
    But with low signal,you run the risk of losing pictures at times.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40 damo642


    Response from RTEnl:

    I’m happy to say that the Clonmel Transposer is due for a DTT upgrade later this year. All going according to plan it will be on air before the summer. Clonmel DTT will be on channel 55, horizontally polarised.

    Please note that many areas of Clonmel are already covered by Mt. Leinster, on channel 45, horizontally polarised.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40 damo642


    Based on the response above from RTEnl - can someone please tell me what a horizontally polarized aerial is and where i can buy one? is it the same as rabbit ears?
    thanks


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 20,028 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    damo642 wrote: »
    Based on the response above from RTEnl - can someone please tell me what a horizontally polarized aerial is and where i can buy one? is it the same as rabbit ears?
    thanks

    Any aerial can be polarized Horizontal (the pins are parallel with the ground) or vertically polarized (pins point up and down).

    TVtrade.ie do them for about 10 euro up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40 damo642


    here is what i have : http://www.ricability-digitaltv.org.uk/pages/products/indoor_aerials/index.asp?Product=One%20For%20All%20SV-9140-00-002


    - should this work when freetoair is enabled in clonmel?
    It picks up analog fine
    thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    Outdoor aerials are recommended. That's as basic an aerial as is possible.

    If it doesn't, then forget indoor aerial and get an outdoor one.


  • Registered Users Posts: 951 ✭✭✭andrewdeerpark


    Just letting all know the DTT from Clonmel is working on channel 55 as posted earlier.

    I am up the Cashel Road and using a loft antenna it is perfect.

    Only issue now is the Triax TR 110 box with the blank RTE 2; however RTE 2 works on the alternative channel, anyone know when their is a firmware update for this issue and how its downloaded and installed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,780 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Only issue now is the Triax TR 110 box with the blank RTE 2; however RTE 2 works on the alternative channel, anyone know when their is a firmware update for this issue and how its downloaded and installed?

    Its a hardware issue, there will be no firmware update.

    The receiver can only decode SD video (MPEG4 AVC/H.264 HP@L3.0 SDTV), RTÉ 2 HD (epg# 2) requires MPEG4 AVC/H.264 HP@L4.0 HDTV.

    The low bitrate RTÉ 2 SD Temporary channel will disappear on April 18th. To receive RTÉ 2 after that date you will require a new iDTV or STB. The replacement for the Triax TR110 STB is the Saorview certified TR112 (discussed here & here this week). A list of other certified products are on the Saorview website.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭Mr McBoatface


    The Triax TR110 is incompatible with Saorview as it only has a MPEG4 decoder that works with SD transmissions (MPEG4 Level3) RTE2 is HD which is MPEG4 Level4. Many of these boxes where mis-sold as compatible if you can bring it back to the retailer and get your money back. There is no fix for this.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056113027&highlight=Triax+TR110


  • Registered Users Posts: 951 ✭✭✭andrewdeerpark


    Thanks Guys ordered the TR112 from the local supplier: Doyle TV. Just curious is the TR112 a HDMI connection to the TV so?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 181 ✭✭Teddy455


    Thanks Guys ordered the TR112 from the local supplier: Doyle TV. Just curious is the TR112 a HDMI connection to the TV so?

    Its HDMI or SCART.

    Do dolye tv have a website?
    who much did i cost?
    where did they purchase the stb?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 422 ✭✭qhe0i9zvfgdou8


    Thanks Guys ordered the TR112 from the local supplier: Doyle TV. Just curious is the TR112 a HDMI connection to the TV so?

    How much is the TR112 retailing at and whats the waiting time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,780 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Thanks Guys ordered the TR112 from the local supplier: Doyle TV. Just curious is the TR112 a HDMI connection to the TV so?

    HDMI and scart - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=70586489&postcount=63.
    Using an approved STB:

    • HD and / or SD services carried on DTT will be viewable on any HD-ready TV (SAORVIEW approved or not) via a HDMI lead connected between the TV and a STB. HD services will appear as HD and SD as SD.
    • HD and / or SD services carried on DTT will be viewable on legacy TV set with a SCART socket, via a SCART lead connected between the TV set and a STB.
    • HD and / or SD services carried on DTT will be viewable on legacy TV sets, without a SCART socket, via a SCART to RF Modulator/Adaptor and SCART lead connected between the TV and a STB.
    • SAORVIEW approved iDTVs will display HD as HD and SD as SD.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    ALL Saorview Certified and "Freeview HD" certified TVs must support SCART and HDMI.

    HDMI can have upscaled SD, SCART is always Down scaled HD.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 951 ✭✭✭andrewdeerpark


    Contact Details are

    Benard Doyle
    Doyles TV
    5 Parnell Street
    Clonmel
    Co. Tipperary
    052 6122170

    Man is old school, does not do website.

    I do not have a price, I just ordered it, he had 1 spare TR110 that he loaned me (explaining the RTE 2 issue) the lead time for TR112 is the end of the month and I believe that is countrywide.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,780 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    I do not have a price, I just ordered it, he had 1 spare TR110 that he loaned me (explaining the RTE 2 issue) the lead time for TR112 is the end of the month and I believe that is countrywide.

    Large quantity arriving in 3-4 weeks according to this post
    The Triax TR112 has been approved since yesterday. It will be listed on the RTE website from Next week. The first supplies will arrrive into Ireland next week with a large quantity expected in about 3-4 weeks time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 181 ✭✭Teddy455


    The Cush wrote: »
    Large quantity arriving in 3-4 weeks according to this post

    They will be 109 euro. Bit too dear.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40 damo642


    Just letting all know the DTT from Clonmel is working on channel 55 as posted earlier.

    I am up the Cashel Road and using a loft antenna it is perfect.

    Only issue now is the Triax TR 110 box with the blank RTE 2; however RTE 2 works on the alternative channel, anyone know when their is a firmware update for this issue and how its downloaded and installed?

    Could someone please attempt to see if this is working with rabbit ears? ill try this myself tomorrow aswell
    thanks
    Dam0642


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    "Rabbits ears" are only good for a room that has a window where you can see the Transmission mast.

    You don't say where you are. So your request is pointless. Sorry.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40 damo642


    watty wrote: »
    "Rabbits ears" are only good for a room that has a window where you can see the Transmission mast.

    You don't say where you are. So your request is pointless. Sorry.

    hello,

    I am on the cashel road hill. the rabbit ears are on the window facing the town centre. where is the mast exactly located?
    damo642


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  • Registered Users Posts: 951 ✭✭✭andrewdeerpark


    Mast is on "the cross" pilgrim site. It is lighted on a clear night.

    Rabbit ears are more than likely not suitable however if you get them high enough (in the attic) you may be ok. I had mine in the attic and the reception was poor on a bad day passable other days, however the real deal antenna in the attic is no comparison.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40 damo642


    Mast is on "the cross" pilgrim site. It is lighted on a clear night.

    Rabbit ears are more than likely not suitable however if you get them high enough (in the attic) you may be ok. I had mine in the attic and the reception was poor on a bad day passable other days, however the real deal antenna in the attic is no comparison.

    Right - I have Line-Of-Sight to that mast on the hill from the window. So i expect when i plug in rabbit ears into sarview box i will finally get digital. Will update tomorrow as to results

    Damo642


  • Registered Users Posts: 40 damo642


    damo642 wrote: »
    Right - I have Line-Of-Sight to that mast on the hill from the window. So i expect when i plug in rabbit ears into sarview box i will finally get digital. Will update tomorrow as to results

    Damo642

    Works like a dream - just using non powered rabbit ears. the room window has line of sight to the mast but have the rabbit ears on the ground with no line of sight. perfect now!


  • Registered Users Posts: 951 ✭✭✭andrewdeerpark


    Good to hear damo642.

    I have no RTE2 on Analogue, anyone know if this is down at the moment? The DTT is still spot on with signal quality at 97% and Strength at 87%.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭alexmcred


    Live on the Mountain road and while I can tune in DTT I find it drops out very easily and we have to revert to the analog signal. Is anyone else having this issue?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 951 ✭✭✭andrewdeerpark


    Try pointing your antenna to Suir Valley - Carrick on Suir / Piltown direction and re tune your box to channel 52 and see what you get. The cross transmitter in Clonmel may just be blocked by the mountain.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭alexmcred


    Try pointing your antenna to Suir Valley - Carrick on Suir / Piltown direction and re tune your box to channel 52 and see what you get. The cross transmitter in Clonmel may just be blocked by the mountain.

    Cheers will give that a go


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