Arctic Monkeys.

seafood dunleavy

Heard they've a new album coming out this year,can't wait absolutely love the band.anybody know if it'll be released soon or near the end of the year?or any kind of info on the album?

Battleflag

Heard James Ford is producing this album too, just like Humbug. I would assume it will have a summer/autumn release.

Can't wait, they get better with each album - Humbug was a cracker

seafood dunleavy

exioot wrote: »

Heard James Ford is producing this album too, just like Humbug. I would assume it will have a summer/autumn release.

Can't wait, they get better with each album - Humbug was a cracker

yeah liked humbug,it grew on me though.suppose it'll be similar to humbug if he's producing it?have to say I miss the sound they had from the first two albums.Would be good if they had a mix of the two different sounds on the album.

Stompbox

seafood dunleavy wrote: »

suppose it'll be similar to humbug if he's producing it?have to say I miss the sound they had from the first two albums.Would be good if they had a mix of the two different sounds on the album.

Ah but you see, James Ford also produced Favourite Worst Nightmare so it wasn't so much a case of Humbug's sound being a product of both the Monkeys and Ford but the Monkey's natural progression as songwriters.

I dunno how the new album will pan out. I think Humbug was very much the sound of a band casting off shackles, Arctic Monkeys MK II if you will, and identifying a sound that they are extremely comfortable with and expanding on it (ie. the latter half of FWN). Lyrically, I just can't see them returning to the black-and-white kitchen sink drama that informed their first two efforts in favour of the cryptic twisted aphorisms that Turner now seems so fond of.

I really think the Monkeys will go all out this time and try reinvent the wheel as I don't think Humbug quite generated the response that they would have liked. It's gonna be very interesting.:D

kev9100

I tried to like Humbug and I gave it a good few listens but I just couldn't egt into it. Whereas the first two albums (especially the first one) had such an incredible ferocity in them I just found Humbug self-indulgent.

thesultan

I wonder will Turner add some of his LAst Shadow puppets material? They did a cover of Baby I'm yours on 'Leave before the lights come on' and its amazing. 'Meeting Place' is one of the best songs he has written. The last album was very dark and its very exciting to hear what Alex can come up with next

seafood dunleavy

Sweet wrote: »

Ah but you see, James Ford also produced Favourite Worst Nightmare so it wasn't so much a case of Humbug's sound being a product of both the Monkeys and Ford but the Monkey's natural progression as songwriters.

I dunno how the new album will pan out. I think Humbug was very much the sound of a band casting off shackles, Arctic Monkeys MK II if you will, and identifying a sound that they are extremely comfortable with and expanding on it (ie. the latter half of FWN). Lyrically, I just can't see them returning to the black-and-white kitchen sink drama that informed their first two efforts in favour of the cryptic twisted aphorisms that Turner now seems so fond of.

I really think the Monkeys will go all out this time and try reinvent the wheel as I don't think Humbug quite generated the response that they would have liked. It's gonna be very interesting.:D

ah didn't know that.suppose the sound will be whatever Arctic Monkeys want it to be.
So your saying something like 505 and Only Ones Who Know on FWN and expanding on that?whatver it is anyway i can't wait.
Can't wait for them at Oxegen aswell although I'd say they'll have dropped some of the songs from the first 2 albums.

Stompbox

seafood dunleavy wrote: »

ah didn't know that.suppose the sound will be whatever Arctic Monkeys want it to be.
So your saying something like 505 and Only Ones Who Know on FWN and expanding on that?whatver it is anyway i can't wait.
Can't wait for them at Oxegen aswell although I'd say they'll have dropped some of the songs from the first 2 albums.

Yeah, exactly right man. It seems that Humbug was a progression of songs like 'If You Were There, Beware' (Crying Lightning especially) and the general harder feel of tunes like 'This House Is A Circus'.

And as you said there about dropping tunes from the first two albums, that's why I think lyrically, Arctic Monkeys will never revert back to stuff like 'Teddy Picker' or 'Mardy Bum'. I kinda the sense that Turner is embarrassed about that lyrical material so his writing will only get more intricate and less immediate, I suppose.

Musically, they're just getting better and better though. If the 4th album is a record full of 'Potion Approaching'-s I'll be a happy man!

oldscoil

exioot wrote: »

Heard James Ford is producing this album too, just like Humbug. I would assume it will have a summer/autumn release.

Can't wait, they get better with each album - Humbug was a cracker

Josh Homme produced Humbug.....(their best album IMO)

Corholio

oldscoil wrote: »

Josh Homme produced Humbug.....(their best album IMO)

Co-produced with Ford

shamtastic

Have loved the Arctic's for years and they showed balls by going the opposite direction many bands take even though they knew they'd lose alot of the stragglers who just want to hear the "tunes". Must say though the only thing I didn't like about the Humbug era was how they messed around with alot of old songs live, .e.g. Fluorescent Adolescent which they even changed the key of in live performances and lost its power completely imo. If you look at videos from 2007 and compare it to 09, Alex seems a little less into it for some of the big songs. Probably board of playing some of them though.

Personally it hurts how they know every soul in the building wants to hear Mardy Bum but they still don't play it! In fairness it wasn't even that much of a mainstream song outside of the fans.

ricero

yea very much looking forward to it i wonder what they will try next. but what a year for music 2011 is going to be like all these bands have new albums out kasabian,beady eye,radiohead,qotsa,brother,elbow,the enemy to name but a few

seafood dunleavy

Yeah would love them to still play Mardy Bum.Your right When The Sun Goes Down was alot more mainstream.

arsenallegend

I love the fact that they won't play it comfortable like The Kings of Leon have, i always got the feeling the whole people's band thing didn't suit them and they rather be a band who are respected more then a big seller. I do think their New album needs to a near classic or classic album for me to really be a band for the times.

Hippo

Genuinely the best band I've heard in years, Turner is miles ahead of the rest. Can't wait to hear what they come up with next.

jujamax

played their first album last night. 1st time in years i've listened to it...great album

pauliewallie

Sweet wrote: »

I think lyrically, Arctic Monkeys will never revert back to stuff like 'Teddy Picker' or 'Mardy Bum'. I kinda the sense that Turner is embarrassed about that lyrical material so his writing will only get more intricate and less immediate, I suppose. !

In the main I agree the lyrics have moved on to a more introverted place, but remember they still had Cornerstone on Humbug which was classic Turner in the storytelling mode of lyric writing and one of the best songs they've written IMO.

Pierce_1991

I wasn't a big fan of Humbug at all, much preferred their first two albums

I think one of the main reasons I love them so much is the lyrics from the first record in particular. They had such a fantastic way of saying things very simply whilst sounding very poetic and intelligent at the same time. The last album didn't have that. Like the above poster said, Cornerstone was classic Turner, but really its the only song that is. If they don't want to write about failing to get into nightclubs anymore then thats fine, because stuff like that isn't what bothers them anymore. But I really don't like the way they've gone which for me is basically being overcomplicated and losing that touch of simplicity that made the songs so accessible lyrically.

In a musical sense I found some of the Humbug tunes a bit boring. I know there was a previous poster who said Potion Approaching was a good song but for me, that song along with Dangerous Animals and Fire and The Thud are among their worst songs. That said, I remember saying to a mate after the album came out that although I felt it was their worst album, if they learn the right lessons from it, their next one could be their best record. This is because for me, songs like Secret Door, Pretty Visitors and Jewellers Hands are excellent (I think I'd have SD in my top 5 Monkeys tunes). So hopefully they go more in that direction then Potion Approaching style. Ford as far as I know produced only 3 of the songs off Humbug and I think they were Secret Door, My Propeller and one other which I'm not sure of (maybe Dance Little Liar). That for me is a positive sign,

As for the live show, I think they kind of caved to pressure towards the end of the arena tour by chucking half of Mardy Bum into Fluorescent Adolescent. It made for a pretty great 6 or 7 minutes. I don't have a problem with bands wanting to play their new material because I appreciate that they can get bored playing songs over and over again, but really songs like Mardy Bum, From Ritz to Rubble and A Certain Romance should always be in their setlist, and I think most fans would agree with me. I tend to side more with the people that say the fan has paid his 50 or so quid and should get the best value for his/her money. I do get as I said that playing the same songs repeatedly gets very boring and a bored band can lead to a boring show, but they should mix it up a little bit, chuck in those type of songs every now and then and make it a more special occasion all round.
Not that it stops me going either way, I'll have seen them 5 times by the end of this year

kieran26

i saw them live at oxegen in 2006 and live in 2009 it was like watching 2 different bands, in 2006 they were full of energy and enthusiasm, in 2009 they seemed bored and disinteresd hopefully the new album will inject a bit of life into them.

Tubsandtiles

Three incredible albums, cant wait for number four, I'm sure it will live up too expectations

l.m

they have been my favourite band for many years now, respect to them for doing what they want to do, but i would like if they brought back some of their old songs to their setlists like a certain romance or from the ritz to the rubble, humbug mixed with the old arctic monkeys would be very good, i agree with missing the way alex's lyrics would be about simple things but phrased in such a poetic and witty way. I hope he dosen't lose his english accent living in America.

Leeg17

l.m wrote: »

they have been my favourite band for many years now, respect to them for doing what they want to do, but i would like if they brought back some of their old songs to their setlists like a certain romance or from the ritz to the rubble, humbug mixed with the old arctic monkeys would be very good, i agree with missing the way alex's lyrics would be about simple things but phrased in such a poetic and witty way. I hope he dosen't lose his english accent living in America.

Completely agree. I think Humbug is a good album, and although I yearn for another Favourite Worst Nightmare, I respect their decision to move in a different direction. They'd never last playing the same subject matter album after album. Anyways you appreciate it more that way imho.

I'm going to Oxegen this year (only because the Monkeys are there ) and I hope there's a fair share of their old songs.

Alex, play Mardy Bum please

l.m

Leeg17 wrote: »

Completely agree. I think Humbug is a good album, and although I yearn for another Favourite Worst Nightmare, I respect their decision to move in a different direction. They'd never last playing the same subject matter album after album. Anyways you appreciate it more that way imho.

I'm going to Oxegen this year (only because the Monkeys are there ) and I hope there's a fair share of their old songs.

Alex, play Mardy Bum please

yeah same, im going to oxygen for the arctic monkeys, they might mix mardy bum in with florescent adolescent like they did here last november.

Leeg17

Might seeya there so

seafood dunleavy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RkqKu7HjGk

New Arctic Monkeys song.

Pierce_1991

Heard this earlier, its really poor

lordgoat

seafood dunleavy wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RkqKu7HjGk

New Arctic Monkeys song.

I wanna steal your soul
I wanna rock n roll
a mole
livin in a hole


More of these clever and insightful Turner lyrics?

Truly truly terrible song, lyrically abysmal and musically just as pedestrian.

shamtastic

Hmmm still don't really enjoy that track after a few listens to be honest. The lyrics are almost too simple to be from Turner...I hope he hasn't lost his witticism. That "I wanna rock and roll" bit is cringe. If it sets the tone for the album it's fair to say it's not a huge musical progression from Humbug to the extent of a change on previous album releases. Prominent support vocals from Nick and Homme inspired guitar from Jamie...I think they've settled on this style for now.

Corholio

I'm a big Monkeys fan but that is a very poor song. I hope it isn't setting the tone for the album. Its completely incohesive as a song, it slows down, speeds up, lyrics smattered here and there. Completely different from everything theyve done and it's a bad sign.

Pierce_1991

It reminds me of one of the weaker B Sides you'd hear for them

red_ice

Pierce_1991 wrote: »

Heard this earlier, its really poor

You're wrong.

The newer sound is alot sexier.

It would be terribly sad if they kept pumping out songs with their old sound while they clearly want to make more music like this. It was the same with qotsa and the ltp album. Change isnt bad, its good, as long as its the direction the band want to go.

cherryghost

That song is truly awful. I don't mind if a band wants to take their music in another direction, as long as its not the wrong one.

I await the rest of the album with bated breath

Pierce_1991

Josh Homme has ruined the Arctic Monkeys

jungleland86

Humbug was by far and away their best album - a psychedelic masterpiece.
Sounds like the they've gone for a bit more of a 60's hard rock sound on this one ala The Who or Cream.

Love the direction this band is going in - refusing to pander to a certain type of fan. They can't keep writing songs about being cheeky chaps, curry trays and not getting into nightclubs forever.

arsenallegend

I love it, right proper rock n roll number. Remember its a teaser track not a first single. I love where they are going with this american sound.

Pierce_1991

jungleland86 wrote: »

They can't keep writing songs about being cheeky chaps, curry trays and not getting into nightclubs forever.

I agree with this, but they can still make their music sound good, not that kind of sh1t they've produced, its such a nothing song

jungleland86

Well I guess my idea of good is very different to yours but isn't that what music is all about?

Not every song has to be overly meaningful - This song is part of an album. Also, sometimes having a mantra repeated in a song or poem as it is in "Brick by Brick" is effective in it's own way.

To say Josh Homme ruined the arctic monkeys is completely false in my opinion - even if you look at the lyrics on Humbug - they are more oblique and emotive and ultimately more satisfying for listeners who like to read between the lines rather than have everything concrete and have one meaning. If anything they've evolved into a more complex version of themselves.

Pierce_1991

jungleland86 wrote: »

Well I guess my idea of good is very different to yours but isn't that what music is all about?

Not every song has to be overly meaningful - This song is part of an album. Also, sometimes having a mantra repeated in a song or poem as it is in "Brick by Brick" is effective in it's own way.

To say Josh Homme ruined the arctic monkeys is completely false in my opinion - even if you look at the lyrics on Humbug - they are more oblique and emotive and ultimately more satisfying for listeners who like to read between the lines rather than have everything concrete and have one meaning. If anything they've evolved into a more complex version of themselves.

We do have different idea's on music. An you're right, thats what its all about

Tubsandtiles

Brick By Brick will probably be a B -side, no need to get worried lads, and as much as I don't like it, its alright .

Pierce_1991

Arctic Monkeys announce their US tour the day after I book flights to Boston. I'll be seeing them at Oxegen and V Festival anyway but I feel its meant to be that they are playing Boston the day after I arrive, got to get tickets for that

cson

Imo they peaked with the first album. Incredible raw energy and as far as I'm concerned not a bad song on it. That was the album that defined my generation as far as I'm concerned - you can relate to the lyrics in every almost song. Ritz to the Rubble being one of my favourite songs ever.

aridion

They are coming to Oxygen this year. Can I get a single day ticket to see them or do I have to buy the three day ticket?

Pierce_1991

aridion wrote: »

They are coming to Oxygen this year. Can I get a single day ticket to see them or do I have to buy the three day ticket?

Yep, you can get a day ticket, you'll have to wait a good while before they release info on what bands are playing what days, although the monkeys may chuck it up on their own web page

arsenallegend

Pierce_1991 wrote: »

I agree with this, but they can still make their music sound good, not that kind of sh1t they've produced, its such a nothing song

****??? i wonder what you think is great music. I think they are as good as ever maybe you don't like their new direction but calling them "****" is a bit far fetched. the track is good but its certainly isn't the best thing they done.

arsenallegend

cson wrote: »

Imo they peaked with the first album. Incredible raw energy and as far as I'm concerned not a bad song on it. That was the album that defined my generation as far as I'm concerned - you can relate to the lyrics in every almost song. Ritz to the Rubble being one of my favourite songs ever.

For the bandwagon jumpers and nme readers they did. I think Humbug was the best thing they done.

ricero

i dont think the new tune is that bad i think its a decent rock tune.

i like the new rock n roll direction alex and co are going in. it will lose them a lot of fans i think but these were ****ing sheep so they dont really count as fan imo.

Pierce_1991

arsenallegend wrote: »

For the bandwagon jumpers and nme readers they did. I think Humbug was the best thing they done.

I hate this, I'm a bandwagon jumper, along with this other guy because we feel the first album is their best. And I also feel that that album does define my generation better than any other I've heard, I don't see why thats jumping on the bandwagon though. I get that people like the third album and thats fair enough, but you have to appreciate that its quite a removal from the first two records, and therefore they will lose fans with it (they've not lost me as a fan but I have a good few friends who like to slag them off now having loved the first album)
My opinion of Humbug is this. It has some excellent tunes. Secret Door would easily get into my top 5 AM songs, Pretty Visitors would be close. And then Jewellers Hands would be right up there too. Songs like Cornerstone, Crying Lightning and to a lesser extent for me My Propeller and Dance Little Liar are ok, they stand out more as better tunes on this album than they would on either of the first two. But I feel that songs like Fire and The Thud, Dangerous Animals and Potion Approaching are some of their worst, then again this is just my opinion. Those latter 3 songs are a different style and will be liked by people with different tastes such as yourself. I have no problem with the band changing direction, I do realise they can't write about the same thing forever. But I feel I'd prefer them to go more towards the Secret Doors, 505's, Only Ones who knows along with pepperings of songs like Pretty Visitors. But I personally don't see that happening. I really do hope the next album is enjoyable for fans of both Humbug and WPSIATWIN, and I do actually think thats possible, but I don't think it will happen.

lordgoat

arsenallegend wrote: »

****??? i wonder what you think is great music. I think they are as good as ever maybe you don't like their new direction but calling them "****" is a bit far fetched. the track is good but its certainly isn't the best thing they done.

Read his post again, nowhere did he call them ****. He said the new song is. And i temd to agree with him.

ricero wrote: »

i dont think the new tune is that bad i think its a decent rock tune.

i like the new rock n roll direction alex and co are going in. it will lose them a lot of fans i think but these were ****ing sheep so they dont really count as fan imo.

I disagree about liking the song, it's a nothing melody with terrible lyrics. So bad that alot of 'the sheep' can see through it. But who knows maybe this new change will gain them a KOL like swell in numbers. Because we all know change is what makes a band so great, like say.... radiohead.

ricero

lordgoat wrote: »

Read his post again, nowhere did he call them ****. He said the new song is. And i temd to agree with him.



I disagree about liking the song, it's a nothing melody with terrible lyrics. So bad that alot of 'the sheep' can see through it. But who knows maybe this new change will gain them a KOL like swell in numbers. Because we all know change is what makes a band so great, like say.... radiohead.

radioheads change did them no good imo. please god i hope the monkeys dont go the same road as kol they suck balls

arsenallegend

ricero wrote: »

radioheads change did them no good imo. please god i hope the monkeys dont go the same road as kol they suck balls

Nah i think hte Arctic monkeys feet are firmly on the ground unlike KOL who you could tell wanted to be a massive band. We just have to wait until w hear the First single and album to se where they go.

seafood dunleavy

New album released on the 6th of June.

http://www.arcticmonkeys.com/news.php?id=465

Can't wait!