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Galway West General Election

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,271 ✭✭✭✭johngalway


    R28 wrote: »
    what's he going to do in opposition?

    Exactly my point :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 532 ✭✭✭Keylem


    johngalway wrote: »
    Exactly my point :D

    I don't particularly like Connolly, it's a toss up between the other two!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,271 ✭✭✭✭johngalway


    There was a SF guy on earlier, he thought if FG didn't get two, then there may be room for two independents, but thought that Grealish would get it ahead of Connolly.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    It is impossible. I'll have a crack :D

    1. O Cuiv Tops Poll, does not have quota , however elected first after a few Connemara eliminations.
    2. Nolan Second.
    3 Walsh ( B) Third
    4. Grealish Fourth....and while elected possibly on the same count as Grealish will have fewer votes.
    5. So Naughton Fifth.

    Possible reversal of 3 and 5 !

    Just back in from the count. Based on tallies made of the #2 vote distribution during the main 1st count it appears that Kyne will pip Healy Eames at a key stage of the count thereby leaving himself as #2 FG candidate . HE to be eliminated with c 6000 votes and Kyne a netch higher. Sadly FG will find a place for her in the senate ...again :(

    However FG will likely not get themselves a second seat and the sequence of the elected, in my opinion, now looks like.

    1. O Cuiv ( elected after Fahey is eliminated)
    2. Walsh ( elected after HE is eliminated but with small surplus)
    3. Nolan ( steadily picking up dribs and drabs and making quota)

    Finally on the last count.

    4. Grealish
    5. Connolly or Kyne but more likely Connolly I think.

    Both without reaching the quota with c 8000 votes, Kyne on 7200 odd and not elected.

    That is my final prediction biggrin.gif


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kraggy


    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    Just back in from the count. Based on tallies made of the #2 vote distribution during the main 1st count it appears that Kyne will pip Healy Eames at a key stage of the count thereby leaving himself as #2 FG candidate . HE to be eliminated with c 6000 votes and Kyne a netch higher. Sadly FG will find a place for her in the senate ...again :(

    However FG will likely not get themselves a second seat and the sequence of the elected, in my opinion, now looks like.

    1. O Cuiv ( elected after Fahey is eliminated)
    2. Walsh ( elected after HE is eliminated but with small surplus)
    3. Nolan ( steadily picking up dribs and drabs and making quota)

    Finally on the last count.

    4. Grealish
    5. Connolly or Kyne but more likely Connolly I think.

    Both without reaching the quota with c 8000 votes, Kyne on 7200 odd and not elected.

    That is my final prediction biggrin.gif

    I reckon Nolan will beat Walsh to second.

    According to the figures I have, he's well on course to second place, possibly even challenging O Cuiv to first place.

    Hope Connolly beats Healy Eames to 5th. Kyne did surprisingly well but don't think he'll feature as time goes on.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kraggy


    johngalway wrote: »
    If the first 4 are correct I'd prefer Grealish over the other two. Can't pick between Frankeen and Connolly, have the same opinion of both.

    Why the hell would you prefer Grealish to Connolly?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    Healy Eames will be ELIMINATED around the 7th count, she will not pick up enough transfers to avoid elimination BEFORE KYNE. How clear do I have to make it. :( I have seen the key #2 vote tallies. Welby alone will give Kyne around 1700 transfers.

    Back to the Senate she goes so :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,271 ✭✭✭✭johngalway


    kraggy wrote: »
    Why the hell would you prefer Grealish to Connolly?

    I dislike her and her politics. He's useless, and will be harmless in opposition.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,156 ✭✭✭Iwannahurl


    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    Healy Eames will be ELIMINATED around the 7th count, she will not pick up enough transfers to avoid elimination BEFORE KYNE. How clear do I have to make it. :( I have seen the key #2 vote tallies. Welby alone will give Kyne around 1700 transfers.

    Back to the Senate she goes so :)



    Um, aren't FG proposing to abolish the Senate?


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    Connolly is so bloody negative about most things , i would hate if she made it.
    I have heard her rant about most things in a negative way, i don't remember anything positive about her policies at all.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    Full recount in Galway West. One objection as I understand is that spoiled votes were put into at least Connemara box and papers were reissued to the spoilers ...eg something like X against 2 candidates.

    The number of voters who voted in that case would therefore be less than the number of papers in the box. If a paper is reissued the original should go into an envelope along with the report by the presiding officer and other material. It should not go in the box. It happens.

    I understand that quite a number of technical and procedural objections have gone in too but I am not aware of what they are, I might head down again for the inside gossip and post it back here.

    Anyway something clearly does not add up and we will be lucky to get a First Round result this evening...never mind all the recriminations that shall inevitably ensue if a candidate is eliminated by a small amount tomorrow as I would expect :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,156 ✭✭✭Iwannahurl


    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    Full recount in Galway West.

    Anyway something clearly does not add up and we will be lucky to get a First Round result this evening...never mind all the recriminations that shall inevitably ensue if a candidate is eliminated by a small amount tomorrow as I would expect :)



    Source? It's very hard to confirm that. Online sources are not in agreement and probably not fully informed anyway. I'm trying to get info from inside the count centre but no luck so far.

    According to Irish Times website it's a recount, but Lorna Siggins said that about two hours ago.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,815 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    Iwannahurl wrote: »
    Um, aren't FG proposing to abolish the Senate?

    I think it has to go to a referendum to do so, i could be wrong though.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,559 Mod ✭✭✭✭Robbo


    galwayrush wrote: »
    Connolly is so bloody negative about most things , i would hate if she made it.
    I have heard her rant about most things in a negative way, i don't remember anything positive about her policies at all.
    She has the very Soviet: "FOR THE COMMON GOOD" as a policy. So I'd imagine she's in favour of ramping up production of potassium and beet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,271 ✭✭✭✭johngalway


    Robbo wrote: »
    beet.

    Did no one tell her the sugar factories were dismantled and shipped to Israel (I believe).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 532 ✭✭✭Keylem


    Candidate Pty. % 1st Pref Count 1

    NOLAN, Derek LAB 12.4% 7502
    *CUÍV, Éamon Ó FF 12.3% 7467
    *GREALISH, Noel IND 10.3% 6231
    WALSH, Brian FG 8.9% 5430
    HEALY EAMES, Fidelma FG 8.3% 5053
    CONNOLLY, Catherine IND 7.9% 4787
    KYNE, Seán FG 7.5% 4579
    Ó CLOCHARTAIGH, Trevor SF 6.3% 3807
    NAUGHTON, Hildegarde FG 5.9% 3607
    *FAHEY, Frank FF 5.7% 3449
    WELBY, Thomas IND 5.4% 3299
    CROWE, Michael FF 3.0% 1810
    WALSH, Eamon IND 2.4% 1482
    BROLCHÁIN, Niall Ó GP 1.8% 1121
    CUBBARD, Mike IND 1.4% 853
    HOLMES, Uinseann Eoin IND 0.3% 186
    KING, Thomas IND 0.1% 65


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,376 ✭✭✭ei.sdraob


    Why did FG run so many candidates spreading the vote around?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,717 ✭✭✭Raging_Ninja


    ei.sdraob wrote: »
    Why did FG run so many candidates spreading the vote around?

    Transfers, I assume. Kyne was put in to get the Connemara vote.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,156 ✭✭✭Iwannahurl


    Robbo wrote: »
    She has the very Soviet: "FOR THE COMMON GOOD" as a policy. So I'd imagine she's in favour of ramping up production of potassium and beet.


    Ireland's economic catastrophe resulted from an ideology that saw private gain as being superior to the public welfare. The gains were privatised and when the crash came the losses were socialised.

    Sneering at the "common good" as if it were just a Stalinist slogan shows how little some people have learned, or how little they care.

    Perhaps this is what's really behind the rise of Fine Gael, a party that's not known for being unwilling to embrace TDs and Councillors who extol "the sovereignty of the individual".


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,315 ✭✭✭snowstreams


    How come Grealish is so popular considering he was part of the former government and PDs who ruined the country?
    Also since he is independent now he wont be able to have any power at all?
    What has he done to be so popular?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,271 ✭✭✭✭johngalway


    How come Grealish is so popular considering he was part of the former government and PDs who ruined the country?
    Also since he is independent now he wont be able to have any power at all?
    What has he done to be so popular?

    Old PD vote?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,315 ✭✭✭snowstreams


    johngalway wrote: »
    Old PD vote?

    The old PD vote is hardly that big, but maybe it is. All the other PDs pretty much lost their backing so i didnt think that was it.
    I suppose he is better than some of the other possibilities that could have happened!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,376 ✭✭✭ei.sdraob


    How come Grealish is so popular considering he was part of the former government and PDs who ruined the country?
    Also since he is independent now he wont be able to have any power at all?
    What has he done to be so popular?

    He promised a Claregalway bypass (again)...

    Good question considering how dismal his Dail record is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,156 ✭✭✭Iwannahurl


    How come Grealish is so popular considering he was part of the former government and PDs who ruined the country?
    Also since he is independent now he wont be able to have any power at all?
    What has he done to be so popular?



    Ask the people of Carnmore and environs! Apparently the ballot boxes coming out of that neck of the woods were stuffed with Grealish number ones. There must be a new gold-plated parish pump or something in the village...


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,315 ✭✭✭snowstreams


    ei.sdraob wrote: »
    He promised a Claregalway bypass (again)...

    Good question considering how dismal his Dail record is.

    Well he sure wont be getting Claregalway anything now being in opposition! Even though the m18 has gone on hold.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,376 ✭✭✭ei.sdraob


    Iwannahurl wrote: »
    There must be a new gold-plated parish pump or something in the village...

    There is alot of people with Grealish as surname in Carnmore :P

    Hell he wasnt even good enough to fix the potholes in the area, so one has to wonder :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    How come Grealish is so popular considering he was part of the former government and PDs who ruined the country?
    Also since he is independent now he wont be able to have any power at all?
    What has he done to be so popular?
    Who will I vote for?
    Oh, that Noel Grealish sounds familiar... and he's not in Fianna Fail... that's my number one decided then...
    :rolleyes:


  • Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Iwannahurl wrote: »
    Ask the people of Carnmore and environs! Apparently the ballot boxes coming out of that neck of the woods were stuffed with Grealish number ones. There must be a new gold-plated parish pump or something in the village...
    The pump down my end of Claregalway was stolen a few years ago :(

    I don't understand the vote either - disaffected FF? He was the only big candidate from that area.
    He did have an ad with the former PD local candidates backing him.


  • Registered Users Posts: 405 ✭✭doubleglaze


    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    Healy Eames will be ELIMINATED around the 7th count, she will not pick up enough transfers to avoid elimination BEFORE KYNE. How clear do I have to make it. :( I have seen the key #2 vote tallies. Welby alone will give Kyne around 1700 transfers.

    Back to the Senate she goes so :)


    Keeping an eye on this prediction. We are getting close to the 7th count...


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  • Registered Users Posts: 370 ✭✭celty


    I'm also incredulous at Grealish's vote. He is an ex-PD who propped up an awful Government for too long, but I guess the fact that he 'pulled the plug' slightly before the Greens has given him a bit of a mandate.

    At the end of the day, he's the 'old style' type of TD we'd be better rid of. Only spoke in the last Dail three times and spends most of his time working for the locals in Carnmore, rather than worrying about national issues. Not quite the Jackie Healy Rea of Galway and not quite the same 'cute hoor', but some people still vote for people because they are 'sound', a neighbour, fixed a pothole, etc.

    I'm glad Fahey and Crowe did so badly and it would round off a great day if the egotistical FHE doesn't make it in either. She was my least favourite of the four FG candidates.

    Fair play to Nolan, after all the speculation that he wouldn't capture the 'Michael D. vote'.


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