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Would you judge someone by where they are from?

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    #122
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,215 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Rocket19 wrote: »
    I think that your accent reflects your backround, culture and ultimately, your values. That's how we can judge people on such things.
    Of course, it can be proven wrong, but that's probably an exception to the norm.
    Yep, it can indeed be proven wrong. I think it's bizarre to place that much stock in someone's accent. I've a number of friends who grew up in "pure" old-skool, Cha and Miah, Niall Tóibín piss-take Cark, in the shadow of the Shandon steeple, and they have extremely neutral accents.


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    #123
    stovelid
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    I grew up in a supposedly rough area and it's always deeply hurt myself and my friends not to get affirmation from the bum offspring of the lower middle classes. We havent given up hope yet though.


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    #124
    grenache
    Registered Users Posts: 6,477 ✭✭✭grenache


    Having worked with people from areas such as Moyross and Roxboro in Limerick and Togher + Knocknaheeny in Cork, i could not say one bad thing about them. so i would not discriminate against a person because they came from a certain area.

    I will judge people who wear tracksuits and runners every day though.


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    #125
    carltoniII
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    i used to judge by intuition when younger because of tv newspapers etc. but when i met people face to face its grand. scawl at me i scawl back start on me i start back most people though are nice so i am to them. theres a few smartypants out there though they fukced me up the arse. the babies and preschoolers really sealed the deal though now they fart around head as high as a kite thinking it was all justified no guilt nothing. its just nothing anyway.


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    #126
    Davidius
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    Don't really see why I would judge them. Where somebody grew up always seems to be relatively useless information.


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    #127
    loike
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    if you're not from d4 dont think about knocking on my door


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    #128
    Mr. Manager
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    loike wrote: »
    if you're not from d4 dont think about knocking on my door

    What exactly is that supposed to mean?


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    #129
    [Deleted User]
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    Cereal Rapist wrote: »
    What exactly is that supposed to mean?

    he's havin' a larf, check out the user name :pac:


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    #130
    fonecrusher1
    Registered Users Posts: 5,700 ✭✭✭fonecrusher1


    I'd never judge someone by where they are from. Thats so judgemental.

    Now if they had an annoying scummer voice, well i hate em straight away. Oi hates dem scummers so oi does...ree:mad:


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    #131
    Rabble Rabble
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,367 ✭✭✭Rabble Rabble


    Dudess wrote: »
    Yep, it can indeed be proven wrong. I think it's bizarre to place that much stock in someone's accent. I've a number of friends who grew up in "pure" old-skool, Cha and Miah, Niall Tóibín piss-take Cark, in the shadow of the Shandon steeple, and they have extremely neutral accents.

    do you have any friends with the Cha and Miah accents, and if not why not?


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    #132
    Sir Oxman
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    Rocket19 wrote: »
    Lol. Not everyone from Foxrock is a snob! People are so judgy! I also know a guy from Cabra and he is the nicest in the world.

    I can forgive a slight northside accent but anything really strong isn't very appealing. I think that your accent reflects your backround, culture and ultimately, your values. That's how we can judge people on such things.
    Of course, it can be proven wrong, but that's probably an exception to the norm.


    What utter shoysh.


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    #133
    Mr. Manager
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    he's havin' a larf, check out the user name :pac:

    :o


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    #134
    Star Bingo
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    my accent and i are of the locale. lets just disregard appearance altogether eh?! nevermind whats in one's head. feel free make your assumptions now.. because i cant tell where the falutin' fook most of you are anyhow; if that were even an indicator


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    #135
    Dudess
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    Rabble Rabble wrote: »
    do you have any friends with the Cha and Miah accents
    Certainly have.


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    #136
    pwd
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    Cereal Rapist wrote: »
    I went to school with people from Darndale, Edenmore, Harmonstown and the likes. Not the worst areas but they do have a name... they were the ones who thought I was posh.....Southsiders think I'm a tinker. :(
    Not taking the piss, but Darndale does seem like the worst area in Dublin tbh. The estates with the flower-names especially.


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    #137
    listermint
    Registered Users Posts: 33,685 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Cereal Rapist wrote: »
    That's not what I was asking.

    I'm not going to instantly dislike someone because they grew up in the flats in Ballymun (not saying it's a bad place but it does have a reputation)

    Are you telling me that if you saw the incident I mentioned in my OP that you wouldn't think "jeez, people in this place are a bit rough"

    Didnt some lovely well adjusted young men kick another associate to death outside a dublin 4 nightclub some years back?

    So i dont see your point. Snobbish comments make people snobbish. From my experience people from less well off backgrounds tend to be friendlier and kinder than their counterparts with a silver spoon in their gob.

    Does that make me judge people? no i tend to make my adult decisions based on adult conversations with people. Guess i was raised correctly.;)


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    #138
    Mr. Manager
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    listermint wrote: »
    Didnt some lovely well adjusted young men kick another associate to death outside a dublin 4 nightclub some years back?

    So i dont see your point.

    I never claimed D4 to be a nice area or the people from there to be nice so I don't see your point.
    listermint wrote: »
    Snobbish comments make people snobbish. From my experience people from less well off backgrounds tend to be friendlier and kinder than their counterparts with a silver spoon in their gob.

    What would you consider to be a "less well of area" and can you give an example of someone from a "well off area with a silver spoon in their mouth" to be anything short of decent?[/QUOTE]
    listermint wrote: »
    Guess i was raised correctly.

    So was I.


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    #139
    HavingCrack
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    pwd wrote: »
    Not taking the piss, but Darndale does seem like the worst area in Dublin tbh. The estates with the flower-names especially.

    Had a relative who taught in a school there for 15 years, eventually she had to move schools, she just couldn't take it anymore. The stories she'd tell you were really depressing.

    I think it's improved a lot lately though. Compared to some of the really rough parts of Finglas and Jobstown it's certainly not the worst.

    But referring to the OP, would I go out with a girl from Darndale? As bad as this sounds, I can honestly say I wouldn't. If that makes me a snob so be it.


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    #140
    listermint
    Registered Users Posts: 33,685 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Cereal Rapist wrote: »
    I never claimed D4 to be a nice area or the people from there to be nice so I don't see your point.

    You claimed that because some lads kicked some gentlemens teeth in that clondalkin was an area that you thought was em not quite the best.. I was making the comparison so in demonstrating that this sort of thing happens everywhere i was pressing the mute on your original comment.
    Cereal Rapist wrote: »
    What would you consider to be a "less well of area" and can you give an example of someone from a "well off area with a silver spoon in their mouth" to be anything short of decent?

    A less well off area is one that tends to have some / more socially provided housing. Less facilities, provided for, politcally neglected, poor provision of gardai facilities. And more often than not hasnt had wealth handed down through generations so people feel the need to look down on others.

    Cereal Rapist wrote: »
    So was I.
    Never said you were not.


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    #141
    psycho-hope
    Registered Users Posts: 7,245 ✭✭✭psycho-hope


    Dudess wrote: »
    But aren't you judging them on their behaviour, not the fact they come from Finglas?

    was more refering to their accents


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    #142
    Mr. Manager
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 11,139 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr. Manager


    listermint wrote: »
    You claimed that because some lads kicked some gentlemens teeth in that clondalkin was an area that you thought was em not quite the best.. I was making the comparison so in demonstrating that this sort of thing happens everywhere i was pressing the mute on your original comment.

    I also stated there were other incidents. It was not just a once off. The incident outside that nightclub was. Again, not defending the area, just saying.

    Also, you are yet to give me an example of how middle class area residents are worse than those from a "less well off area".


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    #143
    Dionysus
    Registered Users Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭Dionysus


    loike wrote: »
    if you're not from d4 dont think about knocking on my door

    hehe. Or as one woman lady said during the Celtic Tiger house-seeking craze: 'if it hasn't a rock or a knock in it, it's not worth looking at'.


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    #144
    tallaghtmick
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    pwd wrote: »
    Not taking the piss, but Darndale does seem like the worst area in Dublin tbh. The estates with the flower-names especially.

    darndale isnt that bad ive been going there for over 3 years now and the people there are nice and friendly,the new generation of teenagers in the area have more to do than sit around like they used to.

    over the 3 years spendung time there ive come across a girl who is starting a career as a designer another girl who loves photography,a couple of very good footballers now heading off to england/scotland.


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    #145
    flag123
    Registered Users Posts: 374 ✭✭flag123


    Judge somebody on their behavior. It's too easy to say he's a "scumbag" because he's wears tracksuit bottoms etc. it's just "dickish" and not cool to say the least.

    You can't judge somebody on were they come from until you've met them. Simple as.

    And people that judge on accents are out the window, with the exception of Irish people talking in Americanized accents - Major LOL!


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    #146
    Mr. Manager
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    flag123 wrote: »
    Judge somebody on their behavior.

    Surely you'd judge someone on their personality no?


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    #147
    COYW
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭COYW


    You cant judge people by where they are from. I grew up and lived in a council estate with a high level of unemployment but now live in Dublin 4. Some of my neighbours from back home were as honest as the day is long and would bend over backwards to help you when you were in bother. However, others never worked a day in their lives, milked the dole for all it was worth and would actually steal the milk from outside your door. 2 completely different class of person from the same location.

    I actually had a battle in my last job over hiring a young lady from a supposed bad area. This girl was the best grad I have ever come across in terms of knowledge. The other 2 on the panel felt that she wouldnt fit in with the tone of the office and wanted to hire the son of someone else in the company, who wasnt and still wouldnt be fit to lace the young lady's boots. I lost out and the young lad who came in failed, miserably.


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    #148
    Usersname
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    Only if they are American. And patriotic.


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    #149
    flag123
    Registered Users Posts: 374 ✭✭flag123


    Cereal Rapist wrote: »
    Surely you'd judge someone on their personality no?

    Yes I would.


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    #150
    admiralofthefleet
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    pwd wrote: »
    Not taking the piss, but Darndale does seem like the worst area in Dublin tbh. The estates with the flower-names especially.

    you obviously have never been in dolphin house in dolphins barn so. if you see a dog with a tail you would say its a tourist

    darndale has its problems but its nowhere near as bad


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    #151
    pwd
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,284 ✭✭✭pwd


    tallaghtmick wrote: »
    darndale isnt that bad ive been going there for over 3 years now and the people there are nice and friendly,the new generation of teenagers in the area have more to do than sit around like they used to.

    over the 3 years spendung time there ive come across a girl who is starting a career as a designer another girl who loves photography,a couple of very good footballers now heading off to england/scotland.
    Are you saying that it's not a bad area because you know four people from there with talent and ambition? No such thing as a bad area by that rationale tbh.

    I just got a bad impression from the huge graffiti saying things like "ENTER AT OWN RISK" and "**** THE PIGS", the huge piles of rubbish; the angry man holding a knife who seemed on the verge of a nervous breakdown; not to mention some of the most feral-looking dogs I've ever seen. The middle aged woman explaining how her household was being terrorised by a local family. Oh yeah, I think we had to "clear it" with some local figure before even going into one or two places.

    I will say that this was all probably 8 years ago now though...
    admiralofthefleet wrote: »
    you obviously have never been in dolphin house in dolphins barn so. if you see a dog with a tail you would say its a tourist

    :O


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