greatest engine/engines ever built.

bmw535d

bmw535d wrote: »

if your auto motive knowledge extended past top gear and honest john

Dude, that's my line :pac:

EPM

It's inherently flawed as to be a truly representative it would have to have every engine produced and not the ones you thought up. The poll shows the opinions of users on your choices. That is all.

Also, if i have an opinion on the result so far and want to voice it I will. If you have a problem with it report the post instead of back seat modding.

I'd also reckon most of the 17 who voted for the VAG lump actually own one and know sweet f all about cars anyway. Also the 2.0 version is dirt, the 1.9 was quite tasty.

wildefalcon

Plug wrote: »

The BMW 3.2 L S54 is the best in my opinion, just listen to the sound of this beast, if anyone posts a better sounding engine than this they deserve a pint!
20 seconds, speakers up full blast. AMAZING

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75Tnh4bo-Fw

Not an automotive engine, but DOES sound better:

Rolls Royce Merlin V12. In a Hawker Hurricane at 100 feet. Nothing like it, not just loud, but the harmonics, the bass, the power, the weight of the air as it passes you.

The first sound grabs you in the stomach, and as the engine approaches, squeezes every muscle in your gut, zings every nerve in your body until you are hooked, and, after the 'plane has passed, you never quite get over it, and constantly miss it, until it becomes part of you.

Other than that - Peugeot XUD series engines, the first high reving diesel engine, high mileage, high economy, high power, with a turbo strapped on to it - some degree of fun!

bmw535d

EPM wrote: »

It's inherently flawed as to be a truly representative it would have to have every engine produced and not the ones you thought up. The poll shows the opinions of users on your choices. That is all.

Also, if i have an opinion on the result so far and want to voice it I will. If you have a problem with it report the post instead of back seat modding.

the poll clearly shows that most of the options are from the list of the engines of the year award, just because your favorite engine isn't on it doesn't mean i'm biased.having every engine on it would be impossible so thats just an immature can think of nothing else reply,voice your opinion all you want,i only report posts against the charter, how am i back seat modding?

kazul

bmw535d wrote: »

the poll represent the opinions of the people of boards and so far the vag tdi is on top,so enough of the die hard petrol fans making up excuses about farmers on there way to mass, move on.

if your auto motive knowledge extended past top gear and honest john you would quit whining about the results of the poll.

How does it represent the opinions of people of boards?
Did I miss the thread for nominations?

And, sorry I will now bow down before you all-knowing one :P

You have no idea what other people's automotive knowledge is.

wildefalcon

mercedeslimos wrote: »

none of the above!

a rolls-royce merlin V12 from a spitfire (will go in a car - just! - live to see one in a car with the 'charger still connected;) imagine what the torque must be!)

27,000cc's of pure muscle, unsilenced and spitting flames!

you'd get over the 0.3mpg just for the gorgeous noise!

Shoulda read the whole thread. D'oh!

Awesome engine - the engine that saved the world from Hitler.

SIX PACK

Toyota should be on the list
someone clearly has a soft spot for BMW, Therefore thread is a joke thanks if you agree

bmw535d

bmw535d wrote: »

i only report posts against the charter,

are you one of them types :P

kazul

bmw535d wrote: »

how am i back seat modding?

Accusing me of trolling, ordering other posters to "move on". We're having a discussion on topic here, that's what boards is about.

What's up, did you not get what you wanted off Santa?

bmw535d

kazul wrote: »

How does it represent the opinions of people of boards?
Did I miss the thread for nominations?

And, sorry I will now bow down before you all-knowing one :P

You have no idea what other people's automotive knowledge is.

RoverJames wrote: »

are you one of them types :P

kazul wrote: »

Accusing me of trolling, ordering other posters to "move on". We're having a discussion on topic here, that's what boards is about.

What's up, did you not get what you wanted off Santa?

because the people of boards have voted? what are you missing?

bow all you like:D

true i don't but some of the post reflect alot.

yes, indeed i am and so should everyone report posts for name calling etc,because it would end up ridiculous if boardsie's didn't,

you where on about people having std's because you had nothing constructive to say, which is totally off topic and trollish, i believe i was asking people to move on, not ordering;)

discuss further please:rolleyes:

santa was very very good to me this year, thank you for asking.:D

Just stop using my Honest John and Topgear line ok

bmw535d

RoverJames wrote: »

Just stop using my Honest John and Topgear line ok

it's so true in a lot of cases though;)

kazul

So you post up a list of engines and ask people to vote.

You made up the list so the options are limited/the list is not the opinion of other posters.

Then you get in a snot when some of us disagree with the results/nominations.

You're coming across very childish and immature when others point out the error of your ways.

I like an oil burner for heating my house and petrol to power my V6.
Why not look at the wards list? Way more accurate in terms of a real analysis of top engines than a straw poll amongst keyboard warriors.

EPM

bmw535d wrote: »

the poll clearly shows that most of the options are from the list of the engines of the year award, just because your favorite engine isn't on it doesn't mean i'm biased.having every engine on it would be impossible so thats just an immature can think of nothing else reply,voice your opinion all you want,i only report posts against the charter, how am i back seat modding?

By telling me (not asking) to stop whining. Re read your post if you need to.

Also I voted. Based on the list provided though. And because I believe one of the options is a great engineering tour de force.

johnos1984

RoverJames wrote: »

Just stop using my Honest John and Topgear line ok

Slightly OFF TOPIC but its bloody annoying the countless times someone starts a thread and someone directs them to HJ for advice :rolleyes:

dgt

How come no one has raised the all too common issue of turbo failure, injector problems or air mass meter failure on the 1.9 pd tdi engines? Or am i the only one brave enough to highlight these issues... Sorry if ive upset some idiots out there, im awaiting for the "ive never heard of that cos its made up" replies

If one wants a crackin diesel, anything by Mercedes, BMW or Fiat will be easier on fuel, be much more reliable, much nicer to listen to and can safely say theyre not a sheep

But to vote a diesel engine as the best engine of all time, what have people become... What about the flat 4 the Beetles had?

fabbydabby

I am surprised at the relative lack of support in the poll for the Volkswagen 1.4 twincharged TSI, given the acclaim it has recieved internationally.

Granted I am biased because I own one, but God I love it, wouldn't trade it for anything*.

*in a similar price bracket

johnos1984

johnos1984 wrote: »

Slightly OFF TOPIC but its bloody annoying the countless times someone starts a thread and someone directs them to HJ for advice :rolleyes:

What's better (or worse) is when someone asks for advice about a particular car and someone lists off the sh1t they just read on HJ and reckons we'll all think they're in the know, now that is funny :pac:

johnos1984

RoverJames wrote: »

What's better (or worse) is when someone asks for advice about a particular car and someone lists off the sh1t they just read on HJ and reckons we'll all think they're in the know, now that is funny :pac:

Or copies and pastes it...........:pac:

kuro2k

bmw535d wrote: »

i agree that they may be very robust. but the trade of of bhp output is reliability. therefor anyone could screw the output of a normal reliable engine way down to make it just as reliable. it doesn't even have a turbo. which explains its utter poor performance. the vw 1.9 straight diesel would be just as reliable and has way better out put per liter.

and this thread/poll isn't about the most robust reliable engine ever made its about the greatest, so reliability is only one factor when voting or posting

I know it isn't all about reliability, maybe be you should clarify what you feel greatest is........... your list suggests its all about power/performance which IMO is rubbish! what are the factors in your opinion??

kuro2k

kuro2k wrote: »

what are the factors???

Diesel, German, 1.9 or 2.0...............:pac:

johnos1984

RoverJames wrote: »

Diesel, German, 1.9 or 2.0...............:pac:

Or Jap and 1.3 Petrol

bmw535d

i feel the greatest engine ever made would be the BMW v10. over 100-bhp per liter(n/a benchmark), god like sound, high revving, faultless so far, many have over 150k in the past 5 years put up in the us. ive you google "m5 v10 faults" nothing i repeat nothing comes up.

please enlighten me as to what you feel is the greatest engine ever made.then i will research it and reply based on what i read.

my factors are, power output per liter(turbo should be 150bhp per liter at least, n/a should be 100bhp at least) sound,reliability,technological advance at date of design ,rev limit,cost,economy, appearance, success(sale numbers)

unkel

bmw535d wrote: »

turbo should be 150bhp per liter at least, n/a should be 100bhp at least

That disqualifies nearly all of the engines in your list

kuro2k

bmw535d wrote: »

i feel the greatest engine ever made would be the BMW v10. over 100-bhp per liter(n/a benchmark), god like sound, high revving, faultless so far, many have over 150k in the past 5 years put up in the us. ive you google "m5 v10 faults" nothing i repeat nothing comes up.

please enlighten me as to what you feel is the greatest engine ever made.then i will research it and reply based on what i read.

my factors are, power output per liter(turbo should be 150bhp per liter at least, n/a should be 100bhp at least) sound,reliability,technological advance at date of design ,rev limit,cost,economy, appearance, success(sale numbers)

are you serious?????

bmw535d

kuro2k wrote: »

are you serious?????

no:D

bmw535d

unkel wrote: »

That disqualifies nearly all of the engines in your list

most of the performance based engines are 100bhp na.

kuro2k

bmw535d wrote: »

most of the performance based engines are 100bhp na.

my factors are, power output per liter(turbo should be 150bhp per liter at least, n/a should be 100bhp at least) sound,reliability,technological advance at date of design ,rev limit,cost,economy, appearance, success(sale numbers)

bmw535d

kuro2k wrote: »

my factors are, power output per liter(turbo should be 150bhp per liter at least, n/a should be 100bhp at least) sound,reliability,technological advance at date of design ,rev limit,cost,economy, appearance, success(sale numbers)

its ok to be confused, i understand;)