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greatest engine/engines ever built.

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  • 25-12-2010 1:16am
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    bmw535d
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    2009 WINNERS
    Best New Engine: Porsche 3.8-litre flat six DI (911)
    Green Engine of the Year: Volkswagen 1.4-litre TSI Twincharger
    Best Performance Engine: Mercedes-AMG 6.2-litre
    Sub 1-litre: Toyota 1-litre three-cylinder
    1-litre to 1.4-litre: Volkswagen 1.4-litre TSI Twincharger
    1.4-litre to 1.8-litre: BMW-PSA 1.6-litre Turbo
    1.8-litre to 2-litre: Audi 2-litre Turbo FSI
    2-litre to 2.5-litre: Mercedes-Benz Diesel 2.1-litre
    2.5-litre to 3-litre: BMW 3-litre DI Twin Turbo
    3-litre to 4-litre: BMW 4-litre V8 (M3)
    Above 4-litre: Mercedes-AMG 6.2-litre
    International Engine of the Year 2009: Volkswagen 1.4-litre TSI Twincharger

    2008 WINNERS
    Best New Engine: BMW 2-litre Diesel Twin Turbo (123D)
    Green Engine of the Year: Toyota 1.5-litre Hybrid Synergy Drive (Prius)
    Best Performance Engine: Porsche 3.6-litre Turbo (911 Turbo, 911 GT2)
    Sub 1-litre: Toyota 1-litre
    1-litre to 1.4-litre: Volkswagen 1.4-litre TSI Twincharger
    1.4-litre to 1.8-litre: BMW-PSA 1.6-litre Turbo
    1.8-litre to 2-litre: Volkswagen/Audi 2-litre Turbo FSI
    2-litre to 2.5-litre: Subaru 2.5-litre Turbo (Forester, Impreza, Legacy, Outback)
    2.5-litre to 3-litre: BMW 3-litre Twin Turbo (135, 335, X6)
    3-litre to 4-litre: BMW 4-litre V8 (M3)
    Above 4-litre: BMW 5-litre V10 (M5, M6)
    International Engine of the Year 2008: BMW 3-litre Twin Turbo (135, 335, X6)

    2007 WINNERS
    Best New Engine: BMW 3-litre Twin Turbo (335i)
    Best Fuel Economy: Toyota 1.5-litre Hybrid Synergy Drive
    Best Performance Engine: BMW 5-litre V10
    Sub 1-litre: Toyota 1-litre
    1-litre to 1.4-litre: Volkswagen 1.4-litre TSI Twincharger
    1.4-litre to 1.8-litre: BMW-PSA 1.6-litre Turbo (MINI Cooper S, Peugeot 207)
    1.8-litre to 2-litre: Volkswagen/Audi 2-litre Turbo FSI
    2-litre to 2.5-litre: BMW 2.5-litre (325, 525, Z4, X3)
    2.5-litre to 3-litre: BMW 3-litre Twin Turbo (335i)
    3-litre to 4-litre: Porsche 3.6-litre Turbo (911 Turbo)
    Above 4-litre: BMW 5-litre V10 (M5, M6)
    International Engine of the Year 2007: BMW 3-litre Twin Turbo (335i)

    2006 WINNERS
    Best New Engine: Volkswagen 1.4-litre TSI Twincharger
    Best Fuel Economy: Toyota 1.5-litre Hybrid Synergy Drive
    Best Performance Engine: BMW 5-litre V10
    Sub 1-litre: Honda 1-litre IMA
    1-litre to 1.4-litre: Volkswagen 1.4-litre TSI Twincharger
    1.4-litre to 1.8-litre: Toyota 1.5-litre Hybrid Synergy Drive
    1.8-litre to 2-litre: Volkswagen 2-litre FSI Turbo
    2-litre to 2.5-litre: Subaru 2.5-litre Turbo
    2.5-litre to 3-litre: BMW 3-litre Twin Turbo Diesel
    3-litre to 4-litre: BMW M 3.2-litre
    Above 4-litre: BMW 5-litre V10
    International Engine of the Year 2006: BMW 5-litre V10

    2005 WINNERS
    Best New Engine: BMW 5-litre V10 (M5, M6)
    Best Fuel Economy: Toyota 1.5-litre Hybrid Synergy Drive (Prius)
    Best Performance Engine: BMW 5-litre V10 (M5, M6)
    Sub 1-litre: Honda 1-litre IMA (Insight)
    1-litre to 1.4-litre: Fiat-GM 1.3-litre Diesel
    1.4-litre to 1.8-litre: Toyota 1.5-litre Hybrid Synergy Drive (Prius)
    1.8-litre to 2-litre: Volkswagen 2-litre FSI Turbo (Golf GTi, Audi A3, A4)
    2-litre to 2.5-litre: Honda 2.2-litre Diesel (Accord, CR-V, FR-V)
    2.5-litre to 3-litre: BMW 3-litre Twin-Turbo Diesel (535d)
    3-litre to 4-litre: BMW 3.2-litre (M3)
    Above 4-litre: BMW 5-litre V10 (M5, M6)
    International Engine of the Year 2005: BMW 5-litre V10 (M5, M6)

    2004 WINNERS
    Best New Engine: Toyota Hybrid Synergy Drive
    Best Fuel Economy: Toyota Hybrid Synergy Drive
    Best Performance Engine: Mercedes-AMG 65 (S65, CL65)
    Sub 1-litre: Honda 1-litre IMA (Insight)
    1-litre to 1.4-litre: Honda 1.3-litre IMA (Civic)
    1.4-litre to 1.8-litre: Toyota Hybrid Synergy Drive
    1.8-litre to 2-litre: Honda 2-litre (S2000)
    2-litre to 2.5-litre: BMW 2.5-litre (325i, X3, 525i Z4)
    2.5-litre to 3-litre: Mazda RENESIS Rotary (RX-8)
    3-litre to 4-litre: BMW 3.2-litre (M3)
    Above 4-litre: Volkswagen 5-litre V10 TDi (Touareg, Phaeton)
    International Engine of the Year 2004: Toyota Hybrid Synergy Drive

    2003 WINNERS
    Best New Engine: Mazda RENESIS Rotary (RX-8)
    Best Fuel Economy: Honda 1.3-litre IMA (Civic)
    Best Performance Engine: Mercedes-AMG 55 (CL55, E55, S55, SL55)
    Sub 1-litre: Honda 1-litre IMA (Insight)
    1-litre to 1.4-litre: Honda 1.3-litre IMA (Civic)
    1.4-litre to 1.8-litre: MINI Supercharged 1.6-litre (Cooper S)
    1.8-litre to 2-litre: Honda 2-litre (S2000)
    2-litre to 2.5-litre: BMW 2.5-litre (325i, 525i, Z4)
    2.5-litre to 3-litre: Mazda RENESIS Rotary (RX-8)
    3-litre to 4-litre: BMW 3.2-litre (M3)
    Above 4-litre: Volkswagen 5-litre V10 TDi (Touareg, Phaeton)
    International Engine of the Year 2003: Mazda RENESIS Rotary (RX-8)

    2002 WINNERS
    Best New Engine: BMW 4.4-litre Valvetronic
    Best Fuel Economy: Honda 1-litre IMA
    Best Concept: GM AUTOnomy
    Sub 1-litre: Honda 1-litre IMA
    1-litre to 1.4-litre: Honda 1.3-litre IMA
    1.4-litre to 1.8-litre: Toyota 1.8-litre VVTL-i 190
    1.8-litre to 2-litre: Honda 2-litre (S2000)
    2-litre to 2.5-litre: PSA Peugeot-Citroën 2.2-litre HDi
    2.5-litre to 3-litre: BMW 3-litre
    3-litre to 4-litre: BMW 3.2-litre
    Above 4-litre: BMW 4.4-litre Valvetronic
    International Engine of the Year 2002: BMW 4.4-litre Valvetronic

    2001 WINNERS
    Best New Engine: BMW 3.2-litre
    Best Fuel Economy: Honda 1-litre IMA
    Best Concept: Saab SVC
    Sub 1-litre: Honda 1-litre IMA
    1-litre to 1.4-litre: Volkswagen Group 1.4-litre TDi
    1.4-litre to 1.8-litre: BMW 1.8-litre Valvetronic
    1.8-litre to 2-litre: Honda 2-litre (S2000)
    2-litre to 2.5-litre: PSA Peugeot-Citroën 2.2-litre HDi
    2.5-litre to 3-litre: BMW 3-litre
    3-litre to 4-litre: BMW 3.2-litre
    Above 4-litre: Ferrari 5.5-litre
    International Engine of the Year 2001: BMW 3.2-litre

    2000 WINNERS
    Best Eco-friendly: Toyota Hybrid Prius
    Best Fuel Economy: Honda Hybrid 1-litre Insight
    Best Concept: DaimlerChrysler Necar 4
    Sub 1-litre: Honda Hybrid 1-litre Insight
    1-litre to 1.4-litre: Toyota 1.3-litre VVTi
    1.4-litre to 1.8-litre: Honda 1.8-litre (Accord)
    1.8-litre to 2-litre: Honda 2-litre (S2000)
    2-litre to 2.5-litre: Alfa Romeo 2.5-litre V6
    2.5-litre to 3-litre: BMW 3-litre TDi
    3-litre to 4-litre: BMW 4-litre V8 TDi
    Above 4-litre: Ferrari 5.5-litre V12
    International Engine of the Year 2000: Honda Hybrid 1-litre Insight

    1999 WINNERS
    Best Eco-friendly: Toyota Prius Hybrid
    Best Fuel Economy: Volkswagen 1.2-liter TDi
    Best Concept: DaimlerChrysler Necar 4
    Sub 1-litre: Toyota 1-liter
    1-liter to 1.4-litre: Volkswagen 1.2-liter TDi
    1.4-liter to 1.8-litre: Toyota Prius Hybrid
    1.8-liter to 2-litre: Volkswagen 1.9-liter 110PS TDi
    2-liter to 2.5-litre: Audi 2.5-liter V6 TDi
    2.5-liter to 3-litre: BMW 3-liter TDi
    3-liter to 4-litre: BMW 4-liter V8 TDi
    Above 4-litres: BMW 5.34-liter V12
    International Engine of the Year 1999: Toyota Yaris 1-liter

    seems like BMW are away on there own when it comes to this,

    so in you opinion, whats the best engine ever made?

    best engine(does not have to be performance/reliable based) 100 votes

    BMW v10 5.0 M5
    0% 0 votes
    merc 6.2 v8 AMG
    13% 13 votes
    ferrari v12 ENZO
    3% 3 votes
    vag 1.9-2.0 tdi
    3% 3 votes
    honda f20 s2000
    28% 28 votes
    BMW S65 V8 4.0
    13% 13 votes
    BMW 3.2 L6(m3)
    1% 1 vote
    Buggatti W16 8.0
    6% 6 votes
    Mitsubishi mivec 2.0 T(evo)
    12% 12 votes
    subaru 2.5 turbo H4
    5% 5 votes
    BMW 3.0 L6 twin turbo(petrol/diesel)
    2% 2 votes
    Mazda RENESIS Rotary (RX-8)
    5% 5 votes
    MINI Supercharged 1.6-litre (Cooper S)
    3% 3 votes
    Volkswagen 1.4-litre TSI Twincharger
    2% 2 votes
    Saab variable compression engine.
    4% 4 votes


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    #2
    Voodoomelon
    Registered Users Posts: 9,662 ✭✭✭Voodoomelon


    BMWs 4.4l V8 M62 has to be one of the best engines of its time.


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    bigroad
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    Merc 300d .


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    squod
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    One Fiat engine. Is it me or is this list fucked up?


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    bmw535d
    Registered Users Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭bmw535d


    squod wrote: »
    One Fiat engine. Is it me or is this list fucked up?

    there is a reason why people say FIAT stands for "fix it again tomorrow"


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    unkel
    Registered Users Posts: 64,891 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    It always surprises me that it is not widely known on this forum that BMW have always produced many of the best engines around. I'm not sure myself what engine deserves the title of greatest ever, but maybe Volkswagen with the W16 in the Veyron?

    Edit: there seems to be a poll now added :D


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    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    squod wrote: »
    One Fiat engine. Is it me or is this list fucked up?

    Presumably motor journalists are the folks behind it, motor journalists are an awful breed of ******** (whatever your expletive of choice is :pac: )


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    johnos1984
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭johnos1984


    The Rover V8 is missing which powered countless sports and luxury cars


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    ottostreet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭ottostreet


    In terms of making diesel engines less agricultural, and more viable for road transport, as well as being reliable and economical, the VAG TDI engines can't really be faulted.

    My favourite engine that I've driven was the BMW M44...driveable, quick (for what it was), and economical. Engine was bulletproof at 170k too.


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    unkel
    Registered Users Posts: 64,891 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    squod wrote: »
    One Fiat engine. Is it me or is this list fucked up?

    +1

    FIAT has done more for the development of the internal combustion engine than any other manufacturer.


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    johnos1984
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭johnos1984


    unkel wrote: »
    +1

    FIAT has done more for the development of the internal combustion engine than any other manufacturer.

    Lets not forget they pioneered CommonFail diesel engine technology


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    bmw535d
    Registered Users Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭bmw535d


    johnos1984 wrote: »
    Lets not forget they pioneered CommonFail diesel engine technology

    i see what you've done there, lol

    fiat seem to have great ideas engineered badly so they sell them to others that fix the flaws.


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    johnos1984
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭johnos1984


    bmw535d wrote: »
    fiat seem to have great ideas engineered badly so they sell them to others that fix the flaws.

    In that case they were forced to sell but I do agree with what you say.

    They have great ideas but it takes everyone else to make it work.


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    homer90
    Registered Users Posts: 2,073 ✭✭✭homer90


    johnos1984 wrote: »
    The Rover V8 is missing which powered countless sports and luxury cars

    Surely a contender. On the go for 40 odd years in various forms.

    wiki Rover V8


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    Nonoperational
    Registered Users Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    The old Arese built Alfa 3.2L V6 is a smasher in my opinion. The Fiat 1.9 Jtd is a good engine too but I couldn't possible call a pretty standard 2.0L diesel the greatest engine ever built!


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    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Soemone is Germany needs to invest in makign sub 1 litre engines, then thered be no need for the journos to bother pickign a token non german engine at all.

    Do they realise theres a motor industry outside Germany?


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    johnos1984
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭johnos1984


    Fiat multiair is also missing


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    bmw535d
    Registered Users Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭bmw535d


    LIGHTNING wrote: »
    One great omission from the list is a engine that was in production for 60+years that is small,light,simple and reliable,everything that a engine should be.

    The VW flat air cooled engine, sure it doesn't sound like a big V8 hemi and its not as refined as a BMW V10 but is classic design.

    +1 great engine.

    most of the list seems to be technological advance,or output per liter awards. it's missing rare unusual design engines like the multi-air,variable compression,or flat air cooled engines.


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    Matt Simis
    Registered Users Posts: 8,718 ✭✭✭Matt Simis


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    Do they realise theres a motor industry outside Germany?

    You mean Japan then right?


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    Kxiii
    Registered Users Posts: 864 ✭✭✭Kxiii


    The v8 in the new atom and caterham 500. 3.0l and 500hp from an NA engine that revs upwards of 12k rpm.


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    bmw535d
    Registered Users Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭bmw535d


    Kxiii wrote: »
    The v8 in the new atom and caterham 500. 2.8l and 500hp from an NA engine that revs upwards of 12k rpm.

    thats a motorcycle derived engine though.and its also a 3.0


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    unkel
    Registered Users Posts: 64,891 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    johnos1984 wrote: »
    Lets not forget they pioneered CommonFail diesel engine technology

    Nought wrong with common rail ;)

    Even VW had to abandon their own diesel system (PD) and start paying FIAT or Bosch royalties like every other company in the world using common rail.

    Talk about fail though, who invented DMF? I'll cut off their head myself and let it be on the youtube :D


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    kuro2k
    Registered Users Posts: 568 ✭✭✭kuro2k


    Toyota 1HZ........ 4.2l and bulletproof!


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    johnos1984
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    unkel wrote: »
    Nought wrong with common rail ;)

    Even VW had to abandon their own diesel system (PD) and start paying FIAT or Bosch royalties like every other company in the world using common rail.

    Talk about fail though, who invented DMF? I'll cut off their head myself and let it be on the youtube :D

    Nought wrong with it until it goes wrong..... then everything tends to be wrong with it :D

    Even VAG seem to of made a mess of it since ditching the PD diesel technology

    As for a DMF, I've not had the pleasure yet so I'm not going to tempt faith by saying anything.:)


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    bmw535d
    Registered Users Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭bmw535d


    kuro2k wrote: »
    Toyota 1HZ........ 4.2l and bulletproof!

    its not hard to make something reliable if its a 4.2 that puts out 129bhp, i mean come on.


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    Kxiii
    Registered Users Posts: 864 ✭✭✭Kxiii


    bmw535d wrote: »
    thats a motorcycle derived engine though.

    True, but it is I'm two models of production cars and it does have a bespoke heads and crankcase and shaft.


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    bmw535d
    Registered Users Posts: 1,160 ✭✭✭bmw535d


    unkel wrote: »
    Nought wrong with common rail ;)

    Even VW had to abandon their own diesel system (PD) and start paying FIAT or Bosch royalties like every other company in the world using common rail.

    Talk about fail though, who invented DMF? I'll cut off their head myself and let it be on the youtube :D

    the 2.0vag common rail is ****e, injector seals go leaking engine oil into the diesel and in turn back into the fuel tank which in turn clogs the turbo vains up with suit which eventually puts the car into safe mode.disaster imo

    however the vag 1.9 is a far better engine imo.


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    squod
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    Winner


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    Plug
    Registered Users Posts: 9,248 ✭✭✭Plug


    The BMW 3.2 L S54 is the best in my opinion, just listen to the sound of this beast, if anyone posts a better sounding engine than this they deserve a pint!
    20 seconds, speakers up full blast. AMAZING
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75Tnh4bo-Fw


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    kuro2k
    Registered Users Posts: 568 ✭✭✭kuro2k


    bmw535d wrote: »
    its not hard to make something reliable if its a 4.2 that puts out 129bhp, i mean come on.

    I agree its not too hard but very few have followed. We are talking about the greatest engine ever built, surely we have to include the workhorse of the 3rd world. I didn't realise it was all about bhp!!!

    Yea its great listing all the AMG, BMW, Buggatti, Ferrari & Honda's of the world....... all great engines but the greatest?


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    Owen
    Registered Users Posts: 12,683 ✭✭✭✭Owen


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    Soemone is Germany needs to invest in makign sub 1 litre engines

    Unfortunately, there'll be 1.3 Motorrad developed BMW engines on the market soon in 3 cylinder format, and in time, I'm sure we'll have a Motorrad derrived 1.0 litre too.


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