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Budget day discussion thread. Your budget chat goes here.(Rules and links first post)

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    #242
    DrumSteve
    Registered Users Posts: 10,799 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    OisinT wrote: »
    What's this? I'm attempting to watch via http://www.boards.ie/budgetlive/ and it's total ****... keeps cutting out and buffering so I'm missing it all.

    I'm watchin it on RtePlayer


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    #243
    Kasabian
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭Kasabian


    PeterIanStaker wrote: »
    so people aren't leaving the country?

    Yes they are but are they leaving jobs to go?

    The reduction in redundancies is by 30 percent meaning less job losses.


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    #244
    bnt
    Registered Users Posts: 12,973 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    OisinT wrote: »
    anyone else having problems with http://www.boards.ie/budgetlive/ ?
    I took a look, and it worked for me. The video is being hosted by HEAnet, which has just about the fattest pipe in Ireland; so if that goes down, you know the Wreckage is Large. :eek:

    From out there on the moon, international politics look so petty. You want to grab a politician by the scruff of the neck and drag him a quarter of a million miles out and say, ‘Look at that, you son of a bitch’.

    — Edgar Mitchell, Apollo 14 Astronaut



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    #245
    ibarelycare
    Registered Users Posts: 58,456 ✭✭✭✭ibarelycare


    The paycut for the president, am I right in thinking that he said that will only apply to future presidents, as the current president has already taken significant cuts? :confused:


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    #246
    JONJO THE MISER
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    OisinT wrote: »
    This makes no sense. It is a private enterprise. Nothing to do with government funds.

    The goverment are the biggest employers of the legal profession, look at all the tribunals where they overchaged and look at all the bogus refugee casses which has cot the state tens of millions.


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    #247
    FreudianSlippers
    Registered Users Posts: 20,397 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    Watching via http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/1207/live_budget_updates.html

    It works much better!


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    #248
    PeterIanStaker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭PeterIanStaker


    Kasabian wrote: »
    Yes they are but are they leaving jobs to go?

    The reduction in redundancies is by 30 percent meaning less job losses.

    It's possible that some of them left a job here for a better paying or more secure one abroad.

    Besides, I instantly flag any govt statistic as instant spin, so I honestly don't know what to believe.


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    #249
    DetectivFoxtrot
    Registered Users Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭DetectivFoxtrot


    Uriel. wrote: »
    €14,000 pay reduction for taoiseach... yeah easy decision to make when you only have a few days left in office.. might have been worth doing that 2 years ago :mad::mad:

    Agreed.
    It probably cost them 14K to print their budget papers today ffs. 14K is feck all in the grand scheme of things


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    #250
    Kasabian
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭Kasabian


    JONJO THE MISER wrote: »
    The goverment are the biggest employers of the legal profession, look at all the tribunals where they overchaged and look at all the bogus refugee casses which has cot the state tens of millions.

    Really do you ever get sick of whistling this tune?


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    #251
    msg11
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,572 ✭✭✭msg11


    ibarelycare wrote: »
    The paycut for the president, am I right in thinking that he said that will only apply to future presidents, as the current president has already taken significant cuts? :confused:

    Get rid of the president, serves no purpose to the state.


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    #252
    alwaysadub
    Registered Users Posts: 11,554 ✭✭✭✭alwaysadub


    ibarelycare wrote: »
    The paycut for the president, am I right in thinking that he said that will only apply to future presidents, as the current president has already taken significant cuts? :confused:

    I thought he said they'd already taken significant cuts but were still taking another.


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    #253
    FreudianSlippers
    Registered Users Posts: 20,397 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    JONJO THE MISER wrote: »
    The goverment are the biggest employers of the legal profession, look at all the tribunals where they overchaged and look at all the bogus refugee casses which has cot the state tens of millions.
    That's simply not true. There are very few Barristers & Solicitors that participate in tribunals and most of them are over now anyway.


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    #254
    maximoose
    Registered Users Posts: 9,199 ✭✭✭maximoose


    JONJO THE MISER wrote: »
    The goverment are the biggest employers of the legal profession, look at all the tribunals where they overchaged and look at all the bogus refugee casses which has cot the state tens of millions.

    Get out.


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    #255
    FreudianSlippers
    Registered Users Posts: 20,397 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    msg11 wrote: »
    Get rid of the president, serves no purpose to the state.
    In Re Article 26 = most important job in the country.


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    #256
    ctrl-alt-delete
    Registered Users Posts: 14,012 ✭✭✭✭ctrl-alt-delete


    Cap of €250,000 on public service pay,

    we need a cap on the amount that can earn that too.


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    #257
    Uriel.
    Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭Uriel.


    DetectivFoxtrot wrote: »
    Agreed.
    It probably cost them 14K to print their budget papers today ffs. 14K is feck all in the grand scheme of things

    I am not too opposed to the previous salary of the "Office of the Taoiseach" but the current office holder is such a joke and not worthy of 50% of that remuneration. :mad:


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    #258
    jimthemental
    Registered Users Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭jimthemental


    OisinT wrote: »
    Watching via http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/1207/live_budget_updates.html

    It works much better!

    But it's censored!:D


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    #259
    FreudianSlippers
    Registered Users Posts: 20,397 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    New minimum wage employees will be exempt from tax net?! That's a pretty big positive that people were worried about!


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    #260
    Duggy747
    Registered Users Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    Thrill wrote: »
    [/LIST]
    What about money spent on food, gas/electricity bills, money for cloths etc?

    Food - Shop in a supermarket and buy cheap stuff, whatever. It's easily manageable

    ESB bill - I'm paying roughly €30 - €45 for my share. No problem there.

    Internet Bill - That's €20 a month for my share, no probem either.

    Clothes - I only buy what I need, no need for fancy shìt.

    It's not that bad to live on. I consider the internet as a treat which I can easily afford and put money aside for.


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    #261
    FreudianSlippers
    Registered Users Posts: 20,397 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    Reduction in [Something] for family of 2 by less than €12/week.

    Anyone know what the [Something] was?


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    #262
    Brenireland
    Registered Users Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭Brenireland


    I think the only cuts we should be making are cutting out the 166 member's of the dail & organise an Irelands got Talent type programme where the Winner could be our Dictator & try take over the world.....most of it anyway...maybe not Iran


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    #263
    Handsome Bob
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    Oh salaries down €14,000 and €10,000 for the taoiseach and ministers respectively. Sounds impressive, then I realise that they are still roughly within the same pay bracket as Barack Obama. I tell ya, balls of brass the lot of them.


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    #264
    ibarelycare
    Registered Users Posts: 58,456 ✭✭✭✭ibarelycare


    OisinT wrote: »
    Reduction in [Something] for family of 2 by less than €12/week.

    Anyone know what the [Something] was?


    Gross income I think


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    #265
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    O' good, they are even increasing the tax on our savings!
    (Dirt tax)


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    #266
    Galway K9
    Registered Users Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭Galway K9


    OisinT wrote: »
    Reduction in [Something] for family of 2 by less than €12/week.

    Anyone know what the [Something] was?


    married couple tax


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    #267
    FreudianSlippers
    Registered Users Posts: 20,397 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    WOW... big Section 23 changes & 20% Reduction in Tax free thresholds for inheritance are serious burdens on those "higher earners" and people with large property assets!


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    #268
    FreudianSlippers
    Registered Users Posts: 20,397 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    Galway K9 wrote: »
    married couple tax


    That's not too bad. Definitely nowhere near the figures that people were worried about here on AH.


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    #269
    MistyCheese
    Registered Users Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭MistyCheese


    Duggy747 wrote: »
    Extremely basic dole maths ahead :pac::
    1. €9 cut off the dole = €187
    2. €187 x 4 weeks = €748
    3. €748 - €230 (Rent) = €518
    4. €518 / 4 weeks = €129

    I gotta ask, where are you getting the figure of €230 for monthly rent?

    Surely it should be

    1. €9 cut off the dole = €187
    2. €187 x 4 weeks = €748
    3. €748 - €520 (Rent) = €228
    4. €228 / 4 weeks = €57 (- bills, food, etc)


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    #270
    K-9
    Registered Users Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    OisinT wrote: »
    New minimum wage employees will be exempt from tax net?! That's a pretty big positive that people were worried about!

    It's something positive with the poverty trap, but we need more ideas like that, instead of cutting everything!

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



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    #271
    That_Guy
    Registered Users Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    No change to corporation tax...... What the.... FF do something smart.


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