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If a very poor person/scumbag gets killed should it be made legal?

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    #182
    deise go deo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,677 ✭✭✭deise go deo


    CorkMan wrote: »
    What do you mean? When I picture "Harm" I picture an itinerant walking around with a hoodie up, nike sneakers, and his hand stuck inside his pocket holding his knife. Who'd slice you from head to toe for a Euro.

    And you thing that people should be allowed to kill people they think are scum because some people are Criminals?

    Vigilante Justice is not Justice.

    Now I am going to step away from this thread before I say what I really think of You and Your 'Idea' and get myself banned.:mad:


    Just do me a favor, In your mind replace the word Scum with Black, Apply your Idea and see what group of people you belong to.
    Do the same with the word Jew.


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    #183
    Donkey Oaty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    CorkMan wrote: »
    He'll be out in no time. Trust me.

    Sadly, he already is.


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    #184
    m5ex9oqjawdg2i
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    CorkMan wrote: »
    I am just pointing out the obvious. Do you think in Saudi Arabia/Qatar/India the rich get charged for harming the scum? Do ya?

    What has being rich got to do with anything? This is the simple little detail you are completely oblivious to. You are also insinuating that the scum are not rich. WTF are you talking about?
    CorkMan wrote: »
    What do you mean? When I picture "Harm" I picture an itinerant walking around with a hoodie up, nike sneakers, and his hand stuck inside his pocket holding his knife. Who'd slice you from head to toe for a Euro.

    Why that profile? Do all scumbags look the same? The only part of the crap you wrote above that fits a scumbag is the last part; "and his hand stuck inside his pocket holding his knife. Who would slice you from head to toe for a euro". The rest is utter crap.
    CorkMan wrote: »
    Come get me sugar, i'm right here.

    I think you have a difficult time understanding posts...?


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    #185
    Saila
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,751 ✭✭✭Saila


    Namlub wrote: »
    Either that or you think you're a scumbag and you deserve to be killed without any consequences. So I took a wild stab in the dark and went with the former...

    scumbag!


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    #186
    CorkMan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭CorkMan


    wait


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    #187
    Saila
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,751 ✭✭✭Saila


    deise go deo wrote: »
    Vigilante Justice is not Justice.

    tell this guy


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    #188
    CorkMan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭CorkMan


    http://yfrog.com/5sbigginswetpantsj


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    #189
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,568 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    deman wrote: »
    And The Troll of the Year Award goes to....

    CORKMAN!
    http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/5165/capture2b01.jpg


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    #190
    CorkMan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭CorkMan


    CorkMan wrote: »
    wait

    Braxton Jolly Candlelight wrote: »
    What has being rich got to do with anything? This is the simple little detail you are completely oblivious to. You are also insinuating that the scum are not rich. WTF are you talking about?

    If you are rich in a load of countries, you can just bribe your way out of stuff. Regards, rich, only a smill minority of rich. The "top dogs"

    Why that profile? Do all scumbags look the same? The only part of the crap you wrote above that fits a scumbag is the last part; "and his hand stuck inside his pocket holding his knife. Who would slice you from head to toe for a euro". The rest is utter crap.

    Would a man in a business suit cut you? Unless if he is a professional hit man, I think not.

    I think you have a difficult time understanding posts...?


    Not really.

    OK.


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    #191
    Cheap Thrills!
    Registered Users Posts: 2,723 ✭✭✭Cheap Thrills!


    CorkMan wrote: »
    http://yfrog.com/5sbigginswetpantsj

    :rolleyes: Huh!! That picture is CLEARLY not Biggins.

    This is Biggins!


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    #192
    BickNarry
    Registered Users Posts: 228 ✭✭BickNarry


    CorkMan wrote: »
    It's not psychological, it is just who they are.

    If you are in favour if scumags, please say you are

    Yes it is. There is no ''evil/bad/bold'' gene found in those who do ''bad'' things.

    Nature v's nuture is a contencious issue among psychologists and scientists. I doubt you know what i'm talking about (you might google it and pretend though.)

    In favour of scumbags?

    No, you based your moral stance on the assumption that all poor people are scumbags and culling them may be for the good of society.

    I'm making the link between poverty and crime because you are assuming that all poor people are ''bad''. Its not that simple is what i'm trying to show you. You're not the first person to look at this issue.


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    #193
    CorkMan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭CorkMan


    Cheap Thrills! wrote: »
    :rolleyes: Huh!! That picture is CLEARLY not Biggins.

    This is Biggins!

    That's me clearly :cool:

    Pass the cristal rachel, oh yeeeeah.


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    #194
    Saila
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,751 ✭✭✭Saila


    Cheap Thrills! wrote: »
    :rolleyes: Huh!! That picture is CLEARLY not Biggins.

    This is Biggins!

    no! its this guy...clearly


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    #195
    CorkMan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭CorkMan


    BickNarry wrote: »
    Yes it is. There is no ''evil/bad/bold'' gene found in those who do ''bad'' things.

    Nature v's nuture is a contencious issue among psychologists and scientists. I doubt you know what i'm talking about (you might google it and pretend though.)

    In favour of scumbags?

    No, you based your moral stance on the assumption that all poor people are scumbags and culling them may be for the good of society.

    I'm making the link between poverty and crime because you are assuming that all poor people are ''bad''. Its not that simple is what i'm trying to show you. You're not the first person to look at this issue.

    I do not assume all poor people are bad, I said this a couple of pages back. A good amount of poor people are alright, but the vast majority of scumbags are poor.

    Can you tell me about the link between the poverty and crime please. Does poverty make people feel nothing in stabbing another person? Does poverty make people enjoy watching others suffer?


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    #196
    Saila
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,751 ✭✭✭Saila


    CorkMan wrote: »
    That's me clearly :cool:

    Pass the cristal rachel, oh yeeeeah.

    its "pash the cryshtal rachel" :rolleyes:


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    #197
    randylonghorn
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 29,509 Mod ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    CorkMan wrote: »
    My uncle worked in South Africa during the 80s, and whenever a person of high stature was killed it was looked into heavily. But if a very poor person was killed, there was no investigation the vast majority of the time.

    Do you think that should be implemented here? It would be nice to see scum killers not getting a trial IMO.
    So South Africa in the 80s is to be the ideal for Ireland to follow?

    The Cork blood seems to have thinned deplorably since the likes of O'Donovan Rossa, Terence MacSwiney and Michael Collins. Perhaps Cork should be the first bantustan under the new system? Hell, they could even use the PROC designation, save us thinking up a new one.


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    #198
    Namlub
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,298 ✭✭✭Namlub


    randylonghorn wrote: »
    So South Africa in the 80s is to be the ideal for Ireland to follow?

    The Cork blood seems to have thinned deplorably since the likes of O'Donovan Rossa, Terence MacSwiney and Michael Collins. Perhaps Cork should be the first bantustan under the new system? Hell, they could even use the PROC designation, save us thinking up a new one.

    Do not want, we're not all like this :o


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    #199
    m5ex9oqjawdg2i
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    CorkMan wrote: »
    If you are rich in a load of countries, you can just bribe your way out of stuff. Regards, rich, only a smill minority of rich. The "top dogs"

    How does bribing your way out of "stuff" mean you are not a scumbag? You haven't a clue...

    Would a man in a business suit cut you? Unless if he is a professional hit man, I think not.

    Ah ok, so your suggesting we stick to those wearing business suits, because they are somehow immune from the actions scumbags take. Is it in the suit? The special scumbag reflecting powers. What if the guy what wears the suit also owns a hoodie and a pair of nike runners? What if a member of the travelling community wears a suit. Does wearing a suit mean it's less likely he will stab you. Does he have to be wearing the suit all the time?
    Not really.

    I'm getting the impression you are having serious difficulties understanding posts.
    CorkMan wrote: »
    I do not assume all poor people are bad, I said this a couple of pages back. A good amount of poor people are alright, but the vast majority of scumbags are poor.

    I said this a few pages back, I can't make it any bigger for you either, but...

    WRONG
    Can you tell me about the link between the poverty and crime please. Does poverty make people feel nothing in stabbing another person? Does poverty make people enjoy watching others suffer?

    You tell us, you seem to know all about poor people and scumbags.


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    #200
    randylonghorn
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 29,509 Mod ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    Namlub wrote: »
    Do not want, we're not all like this :o
    We could have dual citizenship for those with a measurable IQ ... :D :pac:


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    #201
    Apolloyon
    Registered Users Posts: 322 ✭✭Apolloyon


    BTW I saw lawfully cos 99% of crime abiden citizens don't commit crimes, never mind murder. It is normally when scum is on their property, or pushes them to harm them.[/QUOTE]

    I apologise for being late to the party on this one! But the above post has me stumped. What exactly are 'crime abiden citizens'. Are they the grammatically challenged evil twins of law adiding citizens? I can't quite figure it out.

    In the meantime I'm going back to making dinner.


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    #202
    Doublin
    Registered Users Posts: 238 ✭✭Doublin


    CorkMan wrote: »
    I do not assume all poor rich/elitist people are bad, I said this a couple of pages back. A good amount of poor rich/elitist people are alright, but the vast majority of scumbags are poor those who look after number 1.

    Can you tell me about the link between the poverty people who think the law & society rules do not apply to them and crime please. Does poverty exclusion/arrogance make people feel nothing in stabbing another person? Does exclusion/arrogance make people enjoy watching others suffer?

    fyp, the middle majority will always suffer from the bottom (rob you for a Euro) and from the top (rob you for a Billion). I'm not 100% sure why, soft touch, won't complain, also self-centred..


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    #203
    deise go deo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,677 ✭✭✭deise go deo


    Apolloyon wrote: »
    I apologise for being late to the party on this one! But the above post has me stumped. What exactly are 'crime abiden citizens'. Are they the grammatically challenged evil twins of law abiding citizens? I can't quite figure it out.

    In the meantime I'm gong back to making dinner.

    No, Cork man just has trouble spelling.

    Normally I would err on the side of caution and assume dyslexia or something, But from the Evidence of this thread I think we know the real reason.


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    #204
    CorkMan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭CorkMan


    I'm sorry, I have to go away a bit.


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    #205
    ScissorPaperRock
    Registered Users Posts: 2,708 ✭✭✭ScissorPaperRock


    Poor people *and* scumbags only exist because of the flawed society we have created. So... no.


    Also, what a stupid question!


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    #206
    kravmaga
    Registered Users Posts: 1,945 ✭✭✭kravmaga


    ebixa82 wrote: »
    I know the OP is famous for starting retarded posts but this one has to be a new low..

    I've read over it a few times and still can't figure out what the question is, and it's not just the fact that he has the grammatical capabilities of a cabbage that has been boiled for too long...

    well the OP is from Cork, thats enough for me


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    #207
    Cheap Thrills!
    Registered Users Posts: 2,723 ✭✭✭Cheap Thrills!


    Apolloyon wrote: »
    What exactly are 'crime abiden citizens'. Are they the grammatically challenged evil twins of law adiding citizens? I can't quite figure it out.

    crime abiden citizen


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    #208
    Cheap Thrills!
    Registered Users Posts: 2,723 ✭✭✭Cheap Thrills!


    CorkMan wrote: »
    I'm sorry, I have to go away a bit.

    That's it! Go with the nice ladies and gentlemen in the white coats OP. Enjoy your.....erm.........'holiday' :p


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    #209
    Bruthal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    cson wrote: »
    ???

    So correct me if I'm taking you up wrong but essentially you want to legalize killing poor people - i.e. No criminal investigation into their deaths.

    If that comes in nearly everyone in ireland will be gone soon the way its going here.


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    #210
    BickNarry
    Registered Users Posts: 228 ✭✭BickNarry


    CorkMan wrote: »
    MickBarry, I hope you didn't think the holocaust was right...

    I'm not Mick Barry,for the second time.

    And I don't know where you getting the hint that I approve of the holocaust from. I've read alot about it,and i still find it hard to believe. Hard to believe that people could do such a thing.
    CorkMan wrote: »
    BickNarry, do you think that South Africas system of the poor being uninvestigated in homicides and the rich being investigated is right?

    No, i'm no a loony.
    CorkMan wrote: »
    It's not psychological, it is just who they are.

    You clearly know nothing about psychology.
    CorkMan wrote: »
    I do not assume all poor people are bad, I said this a couple of pages back. A good amount of poor people are alright, but the vast majority of scumbags are poor.

    Can you tell me about the link between the poverty and crime please. Does poverty make people feel nothing in stabbing another person? Does poverty make people enjoy watching others suffer?

    Rich people kill each other and feel nothing. Does their money make them enjoy watching others suffer?

    Many scholars argue that poverty does not have a causal relationship to crime because there are countries in which poverty is very high but the crime rate is relatively low. Its down to how a society treats the poor that is the determining factor.

    Ghettoization, the dismantling of the Welfare state, lack of social cohesion and social capital, poor education standards, poor health etc....

    What i'm saying is the type of 'scumbag' you describe is a part of contemporary problems related with inequality. There have been strong Working class communities with low crime rates.

    Knife crime,underage drinking,high rates of teenage pregnancy etc. they are linked to poverty, and are a modern phenomonen. Thats why i'm saying what i'm saying-the crime you mention is directly linked with the way we treat poverty. Its not an in-built thing to the poor.


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    #211
    m5ex9oqjawdg2i
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,221 ✭✭✭✭m5ex9oqjawdg2i


    CorkMan wrote: »
    I'm sorry, I have to go away a bit.

    Is it for an education? If not, please stay there as long as possible ;)


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