LIDL offering TV with MPEG4 Tuner

GerardKeating

LIDL are finally offering a TV with an MPEG4 Tuner.

It's a 32" for €349.99, usual Silvercrest brand

The Cush

Thanks for the link.

Verso posted yesterday afternoon that it was in the new catalogue but the link wasn't up at that time.

marclt got a reply to an email from them a few weeks ago in which they said it was be available on the 11th Nov, but better late than never.

Spec from the website

32inch FullHD LCD TV with MPEG4 Tuner

• Experience the future in Digital Terrestrial TV (DTT) with this state of the art FullHD TV with MPEG4 tuner!
• 4 HDMI connections with HDCP decoding for high quality digital video and audio signal playback
• 2 USB 2.0 ports for accessing video & picture files on any memory stick or hard drive
• With CI+ slot for accessing future Pay TV channels
• Also ideal as a PC monitor (VGA input)
• Suitable for tabletop use or wall-mounting (wall bracket not included)
• Receive FREE Irish Standard & HD TV Channels
• With built-in DVB-T tuner (MPEG4)
• Receives Digital Teletext and Electronic Programme Guide
• With MHEG5 capable receiver
• Technical specifications: TV system: PAL/SECAM/DVB-T (MPEG2/4); Audio: 2 x 8W RMS (Dual Stereo/Nicam); Viewing angle: 178° horizontal/178° vertical; Response time: 8ms; Size (with base): 77.5 x 56.6 x 18.7cm; Weight (with base): 11.9kg; Resolution: 1920 x 1080 pixels; Contrast: 1,400:1; Brightness: 450cd/m²; 16:9 aspect ratio; Ports: 4 x HDML, 2 x Scart, 2 x USB; In: VGA, Aerial, AV, Composite Video; Out: Headphones, Digital audio
• (Digital Teletext Your receiver requires MHEG5 to display Digital Teletext. It provides richer text formatting and supports images. The current channel you are viewing stays on screen while you are browsing teletext)
• (Electronic Programme Guide An EPG is a programme guide embedded in digital broadcasts and viewable on your TV. The EPG holds 7 days of programming information for each channel listed on the EPG. With the EPG you are able to browse your TV channels comfortably, set reminders, schedule to view your favourite programmes and much more. Your TV/receiver must feature the MHEG5 standard to run the EPG fully.)
• (Irish Digital Terrestial TV (DTT) DTT was launched in Ireland in October 2010. All digital Irish standard and HD channels will be available come spring 2011.Service will be extended further over the following months. DTTwill completely replace analogue TV in Ireland by 2012. DTT allows for a larger number of channels to be broadcast while using less space compared to analogue. DTT provides excellent video and audio quality. The MPEG4 format allows even HD channels and digital surround sound information to be broadcasted in highest quality. It also provides interactive information services.)
• Digital aerial required. Requirements will vary depending on the coverage in your area

On sale in NI Lidl stores too for £299.99

watty

http://www.lidl.ie/ie/home.nsf/pages/c.o.20101202.p.32inch_FullHD_LCD_TV_with_MPEG4_Tuner

Finally!

They got ONE detail wrong

Digital aerial required. Requirements will vary depending on the coverage in your area

No such thing as a digital Aerial!

It will work also with N.I., Wales and IOM freeview if you are near enough, but not with "Freeview HD"., so N.I. purchasers may be disappointed in late 2012 when N.I. "Freeview HD" starts.

It's possibly a Vestel, same manufacturer as makes Walker TVs (Some are actually Saorview Certified).

The Cush

watty wrote: »

http://www.lidl.ie/ie/home.nsf/pages/c.o.20101202.p.32inch_FullHD_LCD_TV_with_MPEG4_Tuner

Finally!

They got ONE detail wrong

No such thing as a digital Aerial!

And this too

Your TV/receiver must feature the MHEG5 standard to run the EPG fully

No MHEG-5 epg being broadcast.

Sponge Bob

Good news , did not stop them dumping some old stock earlier in November and hopefully they will not do that again.

As for ALDI

watty

The Cush wrote: »

And this too

Your TV/receiver must feature the MHEG5 standard to run the EPG fully

No MHEG-5 epg being broadcast.

Agreed. Well spotted. Though technically that could be true in the future. It's certainly true that MHEG5 *could* be used for more than Teletext replacement.

OT a bit (for those who have not seen MHEG5 or wonder why it's good the Lidl set does it)
I added a photo of "Windows 7 Media Center" running MHEG5 here and here. Seems to be sole reason I've found for running Windows 7 Simply install driver and plug USB dual stick in. Does everything "Saorview" supposed to do without extra faffing around looking for codecs and configuring Renderers. "Total Media 3.5" is perfect straight from Install on all versions of XP/vista/Win7 but only Teletext, no MHEG5.

Sponge Bob

It could be that the Programme Coming Up Reminders that you set in the EPG require MHEG5 or you don't get the warning popping up. They could word it better though, if they knew how

Deedsie

Is anyone on here going to buy one of these? I am very tempted. I presume, there is no cheaper 32 inch saorview compatible tv out there?

STB

Deedsie wrote: »

Is anyone on here going to buy one of these? I am very tempted. I presume, there is no cheaper 32 inch saorview compatible tv out there?

Actually there is. The Walker is €299. Saorview approved.

Deedsie

STB wrote: »

Actually there is. The Walker is €299. Saorview approved.

For a 32 inch model? I didnt see that one on the power city website?

Deedsie

http://www.powercity.ie/?brands=WALKER&pages=1&par=10-12

Found it, there is a couple of differences I noticed straight away. The lidl model has a 3 year guarantee whereas the walker has only one. The walker has a 720p picture, while the lidl model has 1080p.

Sponge Bob

We need someone to buy one and tell us what works and what doesn't Deedsie. Remember they will take it back and refund no quibbles if it does not work fully...more than we can say for some other shops.

watty

Lidl is not cheap any more for anything any good.

Deedsie

Why does the lidl ad say save €30 on it? What are those savings based on?

cartman51773

there is a way better tv in powercity for 399.95. sony bravia 32" which has mpeg 2 and mpeg 4. it also plays digital audio video and photo files via memory stick and sony are giving the vat back so you will get 69.43 off this bringing it to €330.52
a much better tv than lidl

Zonda999

Have you a link to that?

I didnt think that vat back offer applioed to those cheapest sony tvs

For many people, i think the samsung 32" HD ready you can get in argos atm for 360€ would be the better buy

http://www.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/5296228/c_1/1%7Ccategory_root%7CHome%2Bentertainment%2Band%2Bsat%2Bnav%7C14419512/c_2/2%7Ccat_14419512%7CTelevisions%7C14419667/c_3/3%7Ccat_14419667%7CLCD%2BTVs%7C19878730.htm

Samsung are the worlds biggest maker of lcd panels so they know a thing or two,its not Full HD but who cares, you really would want to be using it as a computer monitor to get any ebnefit out of that IMO

http://www.powercity.ie/?par=10-12-32C530

380€, full hd samsung actually, if you have somehow convinced yourself you need full hd, Probably a slightly better tv again than the other one

Deedsie

cartman51773 wrote: »

there is a way better tv in powercity for 399.95. sony bravia 32" which has mpeg 2 and mpeg 4. it also plays digital audio video and photo files via memory stick and sony are giving the vat back so you will get 69.43 off this bringing it to €330.52
a much better tv than lidl

Has it mheg 5? Any link to it?sounds a good deal.

Deedsie

Zonda999 wrote: »

Have you a link to that?

I didnt think that vat back offer applioed to those cheapest sony tvs

For many people, i think the samsung 32" HD ready you can get in argos atm for 360€ would be the better buy

http://www.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/5296228/c_1/1%7Ccategory_root%7CHome%2Bentertainment%2Band%2Bsat%2Bnav%7C14419512/c_2/2%7Ccat_14419512%7CTelevisions%7C14419667/c_3/3%7Ccat_14419667%7CLCD%2BTVs%7C19878730.htm

Samsung are the worlds biggest maker of lcd panels so they know a thing or two,its not Full HD but who cares, you really would want to be using it as a computer monitor to get any ebnefit out of that IMO

http://www.powercity.ie/?par=10-12-32C530

380€, full hd samsung actually, if you have somehow convinced yourself you need full hd, Probably a slightly better tv again than the other one

At the end of the argos ad, it says: Please note that the digital and Freeview features of this TV are not available in the Republic of Ireland

The Cush

Deedsie wrote: »

At the end of the argos ad, it says: Please note that the digital and Freeview features of this TV are not available in the Republic of Ireland

That appears to be there by default for all of the Argos TVs. I think most if not all Samsung's are MPEG-4 compatible, always best to check the actual specs in the manual or the manufacturers website. In the case of Samsung - www.samsung.com/ie

cartman51773

here is the link for the sony

it will run mpeg 4 and mpeg 2
http://www.powercity.ie/?par=10-12-32E301

Zonda999

The Cush wrote: »

That appears to be there by default for all of the Argos TVs. I think most if not all Samsung's are MPEG-4 compatible, always best to check the actual specs in the manual or the manufacturers website. In the case of Samsung - www.samsung.com/ie

Yea, both of these are definitely mpeg4

cartman51773 wrote: »

here is the link for the sony

it will run mpeg 4 and mpeg 2
http://www.powercity.ie/?par=10-12-32E301

Ah right but it doesnt mention anything about the vat back there, whereas it does alright for some more expensive sont sets

cartman51773

maybe im wrong but still better paying 399.95 for a sony than some cheap model in lidl. does that samsung also work with mpeg 2 and 4

Sam Russell

cartman51773 wrote: »

maybe im wrong but still better paying 399.95 for a sony than some cheap model in lidl. does that samsung also work with mpeg 2 and 4

The Sony is not full HD. But there are branded full HD TVs for less than €400 out there at the moment.

jeromeof

Guys,
This Samsung model in PowerCity is the best IMO:
http://www.powercity.ie/?par=10-12-32C530

Got one of these a week ago, Saorview works fine, nice USB media player support and most importantly Full HD with lots of inputs for different devices.

There are better TV's but not in this price range I believe.

watty

watty wrote: »

OT a bit (for those who have not seen MHEG5 or wonder why it's good the Lidl set does it)
I added a photo of "Windows 7 Media Center" running MHEG5 here and here. Seems to be sole reason I've found for running Windows 7 Simply install driver and plug USB dual stick in. Does everything "Saorview" supposed to do without extra faffing around looking for codecs and configuring Renderers. "Total Media 3.5" is perfect straight from Install on all versions of XP/vista/Win7 but only Teletext, no MHEG5.

Just to confirm something in the Techtir article, only the Starter edition doesn't have Media Center but this only applies to netbooks. Home Basic doesn't either but this isn't commercially available in most countries so isn't really relevant.

winston_1

Zonda999 wrote: »

Yea, both of these are definitely mpeg4



Ah right but it doesnt mention anything about the vat back there, whereas it does alright for some more expensive sont sets

They don't give the VAT back. That would be illegal. They are giving a 17.35% discount (if you claim it).
NB not 21%, but 21 euros for every 121 euros which works out at 17.35%.

watty

Karsini wrote: »

Just to confirm something in the Techtir article, only the Starter edition doesn't have Media Center but this only applies to netbooks. Home Basic doesn't either but this isn't commercially available in most countries so isn't really relevant.

Windows 7 Media Center.

Starter edition and Home Basic doesn't have Media Center (Thanks Karsini), all other Windows 7 should be fine. The "wizard" was simple and everything worked on 1st attempt. Even MHEG5 Interactive text.

Do they spell it the US way always, or does spelling change to proper English "Centre" when you localise?

I borrowed someone else's awesome MSI gamer laptop for the Windows 7 tests. He was so impressed he bought his own DTT stick. He had analogue TV card in his desktop some years ago (totally rubbish way to watch TV unless you want a 320x 240 window!) so appreciates the difference.

watty

watty wrote: »

Do they spell it the US way always, or does spelling change to proper English "Centre" when you localise?

I borrowed someone else's awesome MSI gamer laptop for the Windows 7 tests. He was so impressed he bought his own DTT stick. He had analogue TV card in his desktop some years ago (totally rubbish way to watch TV unless you want a 320x 240 window!) so appreciates the difference.

It always uses US spelling, I don't believe Microsoft have a UK English version of any of their software, though other vendors such as NVIDIA and Mozilla do localise.

I had one of those analogue cards myself a few years back. Only worked for NICAM audio so I suspect it was a PAL B/G unit.

missingtime

Looking to pick one up. First HDTV.

Will use it for dvd, bluray, hooking the laptop up, possible ps3 (might get a loan of one)

Would ye recommend this model?

watty

The Lidl one isn't a great bargain. The only notable fact is that it's the first time they have had a Digital TV that works here, even though tests have been running over two years.

Power City is better and ships nationwide.

If you have 26" 4:3 or a 32" Widescreen, then 42" to 48" is a better size HDTV depending on room size.

For a smaller (less than average size) you can go for a 37" or 42" HDTV

32" HDTV is a intimate 2 person set, or a secondary set for Kitchen, Study or Bedroom. It's about equivalent to a 14" to 16" 4:3 CRT in terms of distance vs detail per typical use.

If you mostly watch "high production value" Cinema, i.e most are 2.3:1 to 2.4:1 WS rather than cheap 1.85:1 WS (TV WS is 16:9 = 1.78:1) then you go for 48" or larger as there will be big black bars top & bottom.

STB

watty wrote: »

The Lidl one isn't a great bargain. The only notable fact is that it's the first time they have had a Digital TV that works here, even though tests have been running over two years.

It is super compliant from what I can see.

Not many manufacturers are CI+ compliant !

Dman001

Watty you said that this TV won't work with Freeview HD channels, why is this?

STB

Different platform

DVB-T2 = Freeview HD
DVB-T = Irish DTT

DVB-T2 will decode DVB-T but not the other way around.

watty

The majority of people in Ireland are of course also too far from Wales, IOM or NI.

jeffk

Im looking @ getting this telly, but there doesn't seem to be a clear line on if its worth it or not.I want to upgrade from an old 22" telly and its just for my bedroom for watching normal video files on my media box and the odd dvd.

Would it be as easy as its 32", has two scart connections and is cheap or @ least a bit cheaper than branded tvs that have a lower spec be enough to warrant a purchase? I tend to go for brands (mostly philips), but have heard good things about lidl/silvercrest and sure theres the warranty to back it up.

Thanks for any help

Sam Russell

I agree with Watty, it is not a great bargain. There are better TVs than this at about this price. The problem with this type of telly is that you cannot see how clunky the remote is, or how good the picture quality is. You need to be prepared to take it back if you are even slightly unhappy. The quality of the picture processing electronics might be less than on a major make.

It's you money and your choice.

jeffk

Is there a link to these better tvs, or a well this one in x shop is better?

Ive had a look in Argos and this seems to be the nearest

http://www.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/5296864/c_1/1%7Ccategory_root%7CHome%2Bentertainment%2Band%2Bsat%2Bnav%7C14419512/c_2/2%7Ccat_14419512%7CTelevisions%7C14419667/c_3/3%7Ccat_14419667%7CLCD%2BTVs%7C19878730.htm

jeffk

jeffk wrote: »

Is there a link to these better tvs, or a well this one in x shop is better?

Ive had a look in Argos and this seems to be the nearest

http://www.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/5296864/c_1/1%7Ccategory_root%7CHome%2Bentertainment%2Band%2Bsat%2Bnav%7C14419512/c_2/2%7Ccat_14419512%7CTelevisions%7C14419667/c_3/3%7Ccat_14419667%7CLCD%2BTVs%7C19878730.htm

That looks like an MPEG-2 set to me.

watty

look at power city website

jeffk

@Karsini Sorry I wasn't looking @ spec or codecs, just going on personal preferences on upgrading a tv.

@Watty Do you think the saving(if any) from power city would be better than getting a free three year warranty? Again im only using a tv at its most basic level, so im not including codec support etc

Sam Russell

jeffk wrote: »

Is there a link to these better tvs, or a well this one in x shop is better?

I'd hate to say it, but I got a leaflet in the paper yesterday from Currys/PCworld with the LG 32LD450 for something like €380, full HD 1080p LCD. Got good revues. (The TV, not Currys) The extra few bob might be worth it, do not know about warranty though. Other retailers might better or match the price.

jeffk

Sam Russell wrote: »

I'd hate to say it, but I got a leaflet in the paper yesterday from Currys/PCworld with the LG 32LD450 for something like €380, full HD 1080p LCD. Got good revues. (The TV, not Currys) The extra few bob might be worth it, do not know about warranty though. Other retailers might better or match the price.

Thanks nice to get an idea of an actual shop/model number I can google. As its looking I think for a basic tv for a bedroom ill be going with the lidl one, I have bad luck with electronics and the warranty minus currys etc nominal rip off fee is a big plus.

Im assuming from what I can make out on the spec this had the red/white/yellow connection?

cartman51773

the sony 32" is eligable for discount. i picked one up yesterday and i got 70 euro off it. 329.95 in total. and i check and its pulling in all the uk freeview and saorview and also the uk HD channels

Ghost Train

Looks like a decent deal, 4 hdmi, 2 usb, 3 year warranty, 1080p. Of course picture quality, build quality are a bit of an unkown

cartman51773

you cant go wrong with a sony though. a cracker of a tv so far.

Sam Russell

cartman51773 wrote: »

you cant go wrong with a sony though. a cracker of a tv so far.

@ cartman

Where did you buy the Sony? What exact model and price? Thanks.

cartman51773

http://www.powercity.ie/?par=10-12-32E301

this is the one

VERYinterested

Cartman, how are you getting the UK Freeview channels including HD? Can you plug a satellite cable straight in to it?

cartman51773

im right on the east coast so picking up uk freeview from wales and saorview from here.

VERYinterested

Ah right, thanks for that. Just ordered one on line will collect in Tallaght later.

cartman51773

you should be able to pick up all the freeview. its picking them up for me. it may depend how close you are to the coast though. im right by the sea so nothing to block the signal. you can always check when you get it and if not happy bring it back or ask instore before you leave with it.