TV's with MPEG4 DTT decoder

Wrong model

take it back. Must be old stock. Only does MPEG2 / Freeview.

You need "Freeview HD" or Saorview
http://www.saortv.info/terrestrial-saorview/saorview-reception/

Anyone able to tell me if this tv would work with saorview?

Sponge Bob wrote: »

Had you searched the thread you would have found

Hanspree models. I take it yours is neither an SV series or an SJ series

Apologies, i did have a look but new to all this TV lark and i am not as educuated as you on the subject and some of the jargon makes no sense to me.
Anyway watty helped me ,for which i am grateful.

watty wrote: »

You need "Freeview HD" or Saorview
http://www.saortv.info/terrestrial-saorview/saorview-reception/

I know you are trying to keep things simple on that site Watty, and it is an excellent resource for anyone trying to get to grips with the basics.

You do reiterate though that:

A Freeview TV or Freeview “setbox” will not work with Saorview (even if it claims to be HD Ready or Full HD, it won’t work, net ever with N.I. HD either). You might get the Radio channels. You need either a Saorview or “Freeview HD” certified TV (or add-on Set-Box).

I realise that 'Freeview HD' and Saorview give shoppers something safe to cling to in waters that are infested with cheap and nasty Freeview products, but I'm not sure they should all be written off.

While 'Freeview HD' certified TVs are more of a safe bet, there are many 'Freeview' branded sets which are working well with Saorview. If someone is in a location where they will never receive Freeview HD, there may be a considerable price difference between 'Freeview HD' models and, otherwise very similar, non 'Freeview HD' models. The difficulty of course is in how to tell the difference without getting technical, and so it is easier to advise keeping away from (non-HD) Freeview altogether.

As an example though, I recently had my eye on a Samsung LE40C580 Freeview HD model to replace my faulty CRT, as I will get Freeview HD from NI in two years. I couldn't ignore the very good deals which were coming up on the LE40C530, which seemed to be just as good a TV, if not better, but which lacked Freeview HD. The best price I could get on the C580 at the time was £449. I went for the C530 for £364 in the end. I figured that the £85 saving would be best spent on a Freesat HD box I can use now, rather than paying a premium for a future service, by which time Freeview HD boxes will be very cheap anyway.

The non-Freeview HD is a total minefield, and basically all HD models from UK that have MPEG4 and not DVB-T2 are obsolete.

The whole point of saortv.info is not for the person checking existing TV (an aerial in most cases will do that) or trying to pick up essentially "dumped" stock that might work, but to really be a simple alternative to www.saorview.ie So Saortv.info can't recommend ANY plain "Freeview" models or suggest that any work.

If you think about it you will see my logic.

The thread here is enough, IMO and there is a link on the saortv.info site to this forum.

I was looking at a nice 42" Sony today. The Shop keeper could not tell me if it did MHEG5. He had never heard of MHEG5 or Interactive. I said, it's like on the Sky box, which he was familar with. He never knew we would have such a feature!
So I asked him to select a DTT channel and press Text. The MHEG5 text came up. It also does the RTE NL HD loop.

If I was 100% sure that there will be a HD test and MHEG5 running I would explain on saortv.info how to ask for demo of those in the shop. I can't be sure, so I give the only sure advice.

Even the Satellite section is a bit dodgy because only SOME "freesat HD" can do Freesat and Saorsat, some have no Diseqc, so can only be used with a manual switch to change dish feed if you want both, even though all Freesat HD boxes (in isolation) will work with Saorsat with a ka LNBF @ 9E.

So http://www.saortv.info is trying to do quite a different thing to this forum or even http://www.techtir.ie I'm actually not entirely happy with content

However I obviously think it's more use than www.saorview.ie or I would not have done it. I also have to be careful as it uses the Saorview branding rather prominently. RTE know about the site over a week and have said nothing. I don't expect an endorsement, but I do hope to not annoy them So no mention of "Freeview" only sets that happen to work.

STB wrote: »

- the Pani hack on the G10s is a real eye opener to all of this! You get what you pay for according to what is turned on despite the units overall capabilities.

What is this hack? Is it documented somewhere?

Deedsie wrote: »

Has the timeframe changed for the official list of saorview compatible tvs being published? This is driving me insane? I just want to buy a 19-32 inch HD ready tv that is compatible with saorview. Why is it taking so long to announce the list? What and when was the last official word on this?

This is the latest list - http://saorview.ie/receiving.html

Other manufacturers will probably in time be added to the list once they submit their products and pass the compliance testing process.

steevie wrote: »

Hi Fat-Tony. Thanks for the info. I have 1RTE1,2 RTE2, 3 Tv3, 4 TG4, 5 RTE News,and 6 3e set up ok but the freesat channels are 341 BBC1, 342 BBC2, 721 UTV, etc.
Can these channel numbers be changed to 101 BBC1 etc. just like on the Sky Boxes? The set up manual is crap.

You are missing the main selling point of this TV;)
It has a full Freesat (that is the real Freesat brand) programme guide (EPG) when you set the country to the UK. Otherwise you are getting FTA (Free to Air) programming, same as any common or garden satellite receiver and you have to do re-scans whenever new channels are added or moved.

What you need to do to get proper Freesat is to do a re-install and set your country to UK and put in a UK postcode. If you specifically want BBC Northern Ireland and UTV at position 101 and 103, then put in a Belfast post code. I'm not a fan of UTV, so I use a London postcode (W1A 1AA - quite well known location in central London!). I think if you use an NI postcode you may have issues with getting ITV1 HD, but I'm not 100% sure. Try the London code initially, you can always change it and re-scan if you want to see Wales or Scotland or Granada regions in the main 101, 102, 103 positions.

When you do a satellite re-scan with a UK postcode (which is much quicker than the free-to-air scan as it only looks at the Freesat transponders), you will get the BBCs, ITVs and Channel 4s, news channels, film channels in a logical order by genre. You won't get SKY News as it is not part of Freesat, but you will get plenty of content. What you miss in comparison to SKY is the premium sports channels naturally, but it's a pretty decent spread of free stuff supported by a full 7 day EPG.

Setting a UK postcode does cause the Irish DTT channels to be put into the 800's, but it's trivial to move the 17 or so TV and radio channels into 1, 2, 3 order.

Try it - you might like it:)

As regards the manual, I found it ok, but I'm used to reading really crap manuals that come with cheapo satellite receivers;)

Deedsie wrote: »

Can we not just look at the spec on the walker tvs and take it from there that any Philipa tv for example will work just as well. I want to buy a tv before Christmas, but I am apprehensive to purchase in case it won't be able to use the interactive options. Is mheg 5 all that is needed? Is there any 19" to 32" HD Ready tv under €250 that will definitely be compatible with Saorview?

If the Walker range of Saorview certified receivers don't suit your requirements a "freeview-HD" certified receiver is the next safest bet and will receive the Irish DTT channels with MHEG-5.

There are other non Saorview / non freeview-HD certified receivers that do MPEG-4 with or without MHEG-5 but there is no single list, basically down to your own research or what peeople have posted here on the boards. This thread is active at the moment - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056096032.