Mr Slow: The Return

Mr Slow

jcsmum wrote: »

Oh yeah blame the kids, The alarm clock.... Anyway you sound way more relaxed and chilled out of late. Long may it continue!

Thanks K, I've been feeling so bad for so long I'm just thrilled to be feeling strong again and there's serious hope that I'll be back to my old self soon.

Younganne

Mr Slow wrote: »

Thanks K, I've been feeling so bad for so long I'm just thrilled to be feeling strong again and there's serious hope that I'll be back to my old self soon.

thats great to hear...:D

Mr Slow

5.68 Miles ave hr 147 ave pace 9:07

I was told there'd be bad days, today was one of those. I'm feeling less of the symptoms of fatigue and am getting stronger but my body's having a rough time with all of the toxic ****e that's now flowing through the system, I'll run strictly by hr when I feel like this and push a little on the better days, aiming for 40 miles this week at least.

average_runner

Mr Slow wrote: »

5.68 Miles ave hr 147 ave pace 9:07

I was told there'd be bad days, today was one of those. I'm feeling less of the symptoms of fatigue and am getting stronger but my body's having a rough time with all of the toxic ****e that's now flowing through the system, I'll run strictly by hr when I feel like this and push a little on the better days, aiming for 40 miles this week at least.

Now dont try something stupid and do Dublin marathon.

Mr Slow

3.75 miles this morning ave hr 148 ave pace 8:45

Legs very heavy for this, it'll take a few days to shake off the cobwebs.

Mr Slow

5.66 miles ave pace 8:41 ave hr 147

It was an identical route to last night but the hr tells the tale, 26 secs per mile faster for the same effort. I foresee a few doubles in the near future and I'm hoping the accumulated mileage helps me get back on track quicker rather than going out and trying to cram 40/50 miles into 3 or 4 runs.

RayCun

Build it up slowly, no need to jump back up to 40/50 mile weeks. Work from where you are, not from where you want to be.

Mr Slow

RayCun wrote: »

Build it up slowly, no need to jump back up to 40/50 mile weeks. Work from where you are, not from where you want to be.

I am, that's why I'll be keeping the distance relatively short per run ie 4 in the morning and 6 in the evening rather than a 10 at once and only doing two doubles this week.

RayCun

Yeah, recovery runs in the morning are nice, then you can go out in the evening and feel fresh.
I don't want to poke the nose in again, but I just meant don't rush back up with your total weekly mileage. I know you're watching your heart rate, and doing recovery runs, but even at that, more runs will tire you out. You seem to be on the road to recovery, so I'd hate to see you knocked back again by trying to run too far along that road too soon...

Mr Slow

RayCun wrote: »

Yeah, recovery runs in the morning are nice, then you can go out in the evening and feel fresh.
I don't want to poke the nose in again, but I just meant don't rush back up with your total weekly mileage. I know you're watching your heart rate, and doing recovery runs, but even at that, more runs will tire you out. You seem to be on the road to recovery, so I'd hate to see you knocked back again by trying to run too far along that road too soon...

I appreciate that Ray, thanks.

chinguetti

Gently, gently boss. Fixing thyself rightly will take time.

Mr Slow

6.17 miles ave pace 8:28 ave hr 146

I'm feeling the lack of long mileage of late but I'm making ground, no immediate goal or timescale but I'd like to be back running 8 min miles off of 150 hr ASAP

Mr Slow

12.74 miles ave hr 154 ave pace 8:35

It was very warm in the Park this morning which accounts for the elevated hr, met Jcsmum at 9:30 to see out her 21 mile+ run (she's a fcucking machine;)) We chatted away putting the world to rights and unraveling the mysteries of the universe and the miles flew by. I don't know how I feel about the half at the moment, logic would say not to race but I'm not good with common sense.

We followed the half route as much as possible and I'm wondering what pace I can sustain for the distance, I may head out at low 7 min pace for a few miles and default to hr for the rest of the race, I should get a reasonable result under the circumstances without redlining or exploding.

Total for the week: 33.99 Miles

menoscemo

I'd definitely not be racing by HR. I wouldn't even be looking at it tbh. My advice is to turn off the HR data field and run by feel. You should know what HM effort is supposed to feel like and HR data will only distract you and likely hold you back. You can always study it after the race...

That said you probably shouldn't be racing a HM anyway. It's unlikely you will get the result you are looking for or are capable of given the lay off and that will only serve to frustrate you I think. Why not just run along with us in the 1:40 group?

Mr Slow

menoscemo wrote: »

I'd definitely not be racing by HR. I wouldn't even be looking at it tbh. My advice is to turn off the HR data field and run by feel. You should know what HM effort is supposed to feel like and HR data will only distract you and likely hold you back. You can always study it after the race...

That said you probably shouldn't be racing a HM anyway. It's unlikely you will get the result you are looking for or are capable of given the lay off and that will only serve to frustrate you I think. Why not just run along with us in the 1:40 group?

I considered that, I'm not racing for a goal I'm just going to do a long workout. If I go by feel I run the risk of setting my recovery back, I might start back a bit and catch you over the first few miles.

average_runner

Mr Slow wrote: »

menoscemo wrote: »

I'd definitely not be racing by HR. I wouldn't even be looking at it tbh. My advice is to turn off the HR data field and run by feel. You should know what HM effort is supposed to feel like and HR data will only distract you and likely hold you back. You can always study it after the race...

That said you probably shouldn't be racing a HM anyway. It's unlikely you will get the result you are looking for or are capable of given the lay off and that will only serve to frustrate you I think. Why not just run along with us in the 1:40 group?

I considered that, I'm not racing for a goal I'm just going to do a long workout. If I go by feel I run the risk of setting my recovery back, I might start back a bit and catch you over the first few miles.

I think your mad going for sub 1:40. would run it at most 8 min pace.

Mr Slow

average_runner wrote: »

I think your mad going for sub 1:40. would run it at most 8 min pace.

It could well average out at that T

tHE vAGGABOND

Sorry to have missed you this morn - was meant to be in that group...

Good to see your on the mend, ecco the lads (and chrnqietti) saying your mad to rush back into racing...

Mr Slow

tHE vAGGABOND wrote: »

Sorry to have missed you this morn - was meant to be in that group...

Good to see your on the mend, ecco the lads (and chrnqietti) saying your mad to rush back into racing...

By defaulting to hr I won't be racing, it will be a high effort run, I did the same in Mallow when I wasn't feeling well and struck a good balance between effort and not pushing too hard.

chinguetti

Am i meant to be chrnqietti now?:p Get an injury and then a second injury how soon they forget you on here. Sigh:rolleyes:

Yes, i do think Mr S shouldn't be racing but as he claims he will be starting at the back (chinguetti style) and passing people out (also chinguetti style) and also running by hr, he has my stamp of approval.

In other news, as i'm now back running again, i must start posting on all yer logs again.

Mr Slow

chinguetti wrote: »

Am i meant to be chrnqietti now?:p Get an injury and then a second injury how soon they forget you on here. Sigh:rolleyes:

Yes, i do think Mr S shouldn't be racing but as he claims he will be starting at the back (chinguetti style) and passing people out (also chinguetti style) and also running by hr, he has my stamp of approval.

In other news, as i'm now back running again, i must start posting on all yer logs again.

I haven't forgotten you horse, Vagga was obviously 3 sheets to the wind chasing letters around the keyboard on his phone :P

Are you pacing the half?

jcsmum

Mr Slow wrote: »

12.74 miles ave hr 154 ave pace 8:35

It was very warm in the Park this morning which accounts for the elevated hr, met Jcsmum at 9:30 to see out her 21 mile+ run (she's a fcucking machine;)) We chatted away putting the world to rights and unraveling the mysteries of the universe and the miles flew by. I don't know how I feel about the half at the moment, logic would say not to race but I'm not good with common sense.

We followed the half route as much as possible and I'm wondering what pace I can sustain for the distance, I may head out at low 7 min pace for a few miles and default to hr for the rest of the race, I should get a reasonable result under the circumstances without redlining or exploding.

Total for the week: 33.99 Miles

Yeah great run alright yesterday, delighed with the pace.
And you're right I hardly noticed some of those miles pass by. Chatterbox!

Mr Slow

jcsmum wrote: »

Yeah great run alright yesterday, delighed with the pace.
And you're right I hardly noticed some of those miles pass by. Chatterbox!

Agreed, there's no shutting you up once you start. :pac:

Mr Slow

Heat heat go away, can't you see I'm trying to train

10.49 miles ave hr153 ave pace 8:33 17C

Again an elevated hr but more to do with heat than effort, a good run overall on an undulating route. I feel strong and confident that if I keep plugging away as I am I'll return to fitness in another few weeks. Hopefully my strength will continue to build and I'll be in a position to start a training regime after pacing DCM.

average_runner

Mr Slow wrote: »

Heat heat go away, can't you see I'm trying to train

10.49 miles ave hr153 ave pace 8:33 17C

Again an elevated hr but more to do with heat than effort, a good run overall on an undulating route. I feel strong and confident that if I keep plugging away as I am I'll return to fitness in another few weeks. Hopefully my strength will continue to build and I'll be in a position to start a training regime after pacing DCM.

your pacing dm ?

Mr Slow

average_runner wrote: »

Mr Slow wrote: »

Heat heat go away, can't you see I'm trying to train

10.49 miles ave hr153 ave pace 8:33 17C

Again an elevated hr but more to do with heat than effort, a good run overall on an undulating route. I feel strong and confident that if I keep plugging away as I am I'll return to fitness in another few weeks. Hopefully my strength will continue to build and I'll be in a position to start a training regime after pacing DCM.

your pacing dm ?

I'm down to pace 4 hours, are you running it?

average_runner

Mr Slow wrote: »

I'm down to pace 4 hours, are you running it?

The plan is to race it but will wait to October for final decision. Training going well though. Getting alot of miles in these days.

digger2d2

tHE vAGGABOND wrote: »

Sorry to have missed you this morn - was meant to be in that group...

.

Vagga, did you miss another LSR because you and your mot were jumping off the wardrobe?

Mr Slow

I've pulled out of pacing DCM, was really looking forward to it but I'm going to build myself back up slowly without the pressure of having to do it in a short time frame.:o

tang1

Mr Slow wrote: »

I've pulled out of pacing DCM, was really looking forward to it but I'm going to build myself back up slowly without the pressure of having to do it in a short time frame.:o

Sorry to hear that, but in the current scheme of things might be the smart thing to due. Build on the good work you've done so far slowly.