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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Asry


    Thanks for the disambiguation :) That gives me things to wrap my head around. Things are getting entangled in my head. One needs the diagnosis to get treatment, but one does not need the diagnosis to identify. So medicine - or what? psychology? - and...something else, something deeper, innate, collide. You recognise in yourself that something is different, and even if someone puts a name on it, it's still the same thing all along. I feel, if it were me, I would need that diagnosis in my back pocket, regardless if I wanted to transition or not. It would help people understand that this is not a conscious choice. It's like people with mental illness. No, no hear me out. Like people with mental illness. Sadness is just exaggeration and fantasy until it's given a title - and then, voila, people suddenly sit up and take you seriously. Or, say, something wrong in your tummy is just a pain until it's given a name.Then people want to help. I'm probably rambling. I'm looking at the sentence where I should have stopped. Doesn't everyone love stream-of-consciousness? :cool:

    But yes. I've got them both side by side in my head now. Clear as an azure sky of deepest summer. Thank you for your patience :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Asry


    was I really the last person to post here? This makes me look like such a spammer.

    Anywho


    I like crossdressing sometimes! It's fun! I look incredibly sexy in a shirt and tie, let me tell you.

    Does that mean I'm like an off-duty drag king? I hate them so much! Please say no. Does it mean I'm a closeted trans person?

    I haven't done it in a good while though, on account of the fact that the boyfriend likes girls :o:)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    Asry wrote: »
    was I really the last person to post here? This makes me look like such a spammer.

    Anywho


    I like crossdressing sometimes! It's fun! I look incredibly sexy in a shirt and tie, let me tell you.

    Does that mean I'm like an off-duty drag king? I hate them so much! Please say no. Does it mean I'm a closeted trans person?

    I haven't done it in a good while though, on account of the fact that the boyfriend likes girls :o:)

    It just means you like to wear a shirt and tie. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Asry


    and boxers. And men's smells!

    Awwwww yeaaahhhhh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,264 ✭✭✭Meesared


    Asry wrote: »
    and boxers. And men's smells!

    Awwwww yeaaahhhhh.
    lol ok now you sound like a drag king or trans person :p


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Asry


    shut up I do not sound like a drag king. Everyone loves boxers! And Eau Sauvage smells great. I'm a girl! Clothes shouldn't be engendered.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,617 ✭✭✭apache


    Asry wrote: »
    and boxers. And men's smells!

    Awwwww yeaaahhhhh.
    hawt!
    why do you hate drag kings? they can be hot :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    clothes are just clothes. I'm more comfy in a pair of jeans or combats, so that's what I wear. If you like boxers and stuff too, then wear 'em. nobody's stopping you! ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,617 ✭✭✭apache


    actually has anyone one been to see the new drag king act in the george on a thursday night?
    is he hot? i am gonna go to this thursday. will check it out and him :D

    i'd say i will be dripping!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,943 ✭✭✭wonderfulname


    Asry don't worry about it, you are whoever the hell you feel you are.

    I've a huge appreciation for mens clothes, I've a far greater understanding of cut, material and style in designer menswear than womens, most of the good clothes I own are female restyles of classic mens designs and pretty much all of the jewellery and accessories I've invested in is unisex at the very least. It doesn't make me trans, and in this society it doesn't even make me a crossdresser, its just my style, the kind of clothes I feel good in. Wear whatever the hell you feel good in, the skirts for girls and trousers for boys thing is largely defunct, at least for women. Don't worry about it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Asry


    Asry don't worry about it, you are whoever the hell you feel you are.

    I've a huge appreciation for mens clothes, I've a far greater understanding of cut, material and style in designer menswear than womens, most of the good clothes I own are female restyles of classic mens designs and pretty much all of the jewellery and accessories I've invested in is unisex at the very least. It doesn't make me trans, and in this society it doesn't even make me a crossdresser, its just my style, the kind of clothes I feel good in. Wear whatever the hell you feel good in, the skirts for girls and trousers for boys thing is largely defunct, at least for women. Don't worry about it.

    I'm like that too! I can go either way though. I'm wearing a skirt now.

    But drag kings are too short! If I want a drag king, I'd need him to be tall. Also I don't really like the drawn-on facial hair. Other than that they'd be sexy as ****.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,943 ✭✭✭wonderfulname


    Short? That's a very odd complaint, surely there must be some tall ones?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Asry


    find me a tall drag king without drawn on facial hair and I would HIT THAT.:cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,617 ✭✭✭apache


    :confused:

    they are drag kings not trans.
    why would they have natural facial hair if they are women? (unless they had a hormone problem).

    thats like saying drag queens should have natural long feminine hair.
    women come in all shapes and sizes. as to men.

    also make sure to ask your boyfriend if you can HIT THAT!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭hare05


    Asry wrote: »
    find me a tall drag king without drawn on facial hair and I would HIT THAT.:cool:

    I could just go in boy mode, (21 years of the act and I've pretty much perfected it) and I'm 6'5". Still need the drawn on facial hair though :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,617 ✭✭✭apache


    actually has anyone one been to see the new drag king act in the george on a thursday night?
    is he hot? i am gonna go to this thursday. will check it out and him :D

    i'd say i will be dripping!
    it was a most excellent show - thought i should report back :D

    so good that it carried into today. the whole thing has been a blur but very enjoyable. was in panti tonight.
    and now it is morning. i hear the birds sing (tweet tweet)
    goodnight x


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 19,242 Mod ✭✭✭✭L.Jenkins


    Bit the bullet and went on my first clothes shop. Found some cute clothes. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    Bit the bullet and went on my first clothes shop. Found some cute clothes. :D

    oooh, do tell!


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 19,242 Mod ✭✭✭✭L.Jenkins


    Checkered short sleeve shirt and denim shorts. Maybe be one for galway pride :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 401 ✭✭Bob Cratchet


    Hi Folks, sorry if these questions have been asked before, but I posted the following questions on the Christian forum thread "Sexuality and Gender" and the mod "rainbow kirby" suggested I should ask them here ;
    I know nothing about this subject, except it must be so harrowing for anyone who feels they were born as the wrong sex. God love them.

    Just wondering. Is a desire/need to change sex from M>F more common than F>M or is it about 50:50 ? If there is a difference any theories as to why there might be a difference ?

    Also wondering about men that do drag acts in clubs and on TV etc., would they also have a strong urge to be female and desire a sex change, or would that be more a homosexual type aspect ?


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 19,242 Mod ✭✭✭✭L.Jenkins


    I know nothing about this subject, except it must be so harrowing for anyone who feels they were born as the wrong sex. God love them.

    On the extreme end of things, the experience is just too much for some people often resulting in the worst case scenario sadly.
    Just wondering. Is a desire/need to change sex from M>F more common than F>M or is it about 50:50 ? If there is a difference any theories as to why there might be a difference ?

    MTF transsexuals are more prevalent. The supposed rate is 1:30,000 for MTFs and 1:100,000 for FTMs. I can't really say why MTFs are more prevalent to FTMs. It could be a case of visibility and people just wanting to get on with their lives, but that's over simiplifying it a bit.
    Also wondering about men that do drag acts in clubs and on TV etc., would they also have a strong urge to be female and desire a sex change, or would that be more a homosexual type aspect?

    Drag kings and queens are simply entertainers, 'but' that's not to say that they may be experiencing gender issues. Some do it purely for entertainment while others may wish to perform in there target gender under the cover of a drag act.

    To be honest, the whole area of being Transgender is extremely gray and pretty impossible to stick anyone person in one box.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭deirdre_dub


    The supposed rate is 1:30,000 for MTFs and 1:100,000 for FTMs.
    Where did you see those stats? And what are they - the stats for those who seek medical intervention?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭hare05


    Where did you see those stats? And what are they - the stats for those who seek medical intervention?

    It was some statistic someone in the medical arena cake up with a few years ago. Don't think its accurate tbh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,264 ✭✭✭Meesared


    Ok so had my appointment with Dr. Kelly on Saturday, was so nervous going in, but i dont think ive ever met a nicer guy. So relaxed, really made me feel instantly at ease. Next appointment is on Saturday coming, cant wait! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    wonderful to hear Meesared ;)

    he is awesome, really chilled out guy. totally reminds me of:

    imgthe%20big%20lebowski4.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,153 ✭✭✭Shakti


    Meesared wrote: »
    Ok so had my appointment with Dr. Kelly on Saturday, was so nervous going in, but i dont think ive ever met a nicer guy. So relaxed, really made me feel instantly at ease. Next appointment is on Saturday coming, cant wait! :D

    Great glad it went well for you,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,264 ✭✭✭Meesared


    Links234 wrote: »
    wonderful to hear Meesared ;)

    he is awesome, really chilled out guy. totally reminds me of:
    Oh god totally its bizarre! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,153 ✭✭✭Shakti


    Hi Folks, sorry if these questions have been asked before, but I posted the following questions on the Christian forum thread "Sexuality and Gender" and the mod "rainbow kirby" suggested I should ask them here ;
    Just wondering. Is a desire/need to change sex from M>F more common than F>M or is it about 50:50 ? If there is a difference any theories as to why there might be a difference ?

    With the chronic lack of medical services, recognition and representation of trans folk I don't know how anyone could claim to have collected reliable data on them. However IMO if you had an ideal situation were every trans person in the country was recorded I would be surprised if it was anything but a variable 50:50 say +/- 5%-8% maybe either way to allow for birth rates, why would it be any different?.
    Also wondering about men that do drag acts in clubs and on TV etc., would they also have a strong urge to be female and desire a sex change, or would that be more a homosexual type aspect ?

    whats the question?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭Kanoe


    not so much a question but maybe to help direct discussion on the gender queer topic.
    Kanoe wrote: »
    it's all about balance ;) ..a little bit of this..a little bit of that, just nod your head and agree. (its what I do)
    This still reflects how I feel but the general consensus seems to be you have to be one or the other or else you're not valid as a human being.

    I wasn't able to identify with being gay, it didn't fit but it's almost impossible to explain to anyone else why not. When I was younger I identified as male predominantly and small things like wanting my hair cut or the need to wear jeans were emotional joyrides. My mother eventually let me cut my hair but then made me get my ears pierced so others wouldn't have difficulty determining I was female. I didn't progress to boys naturally other than as playmates and my first sexual experiences were with girls. I genuinely believe they accepted me as male or innocently recognised me as one naturally, because I probably thought I was. If I'm honest this still happens today and I get the same buzz out of it, it's as exciting to me now as it was then because it's affirms a massive part of me.
    There was a period in between where I was nothing and I didn't exist on any level. I suffered from depression, was asexual for over a decade and had decided that was the way it was going to be. I dedicated my life to parenthood and I was nearing thirty before I had time to think about my life again and it was my daughter's interest in trans issues which gave me the courage to go further.
    Four years on and I've learned how to just be myself. I've also learned to like parts of me I was unable to associate with before. While sometimes it can be jarring being touched intimately (it's like a reminder of what I am) I am also quite proud of my physical self and what I've overcome to get here that I don't feel the need to change it. In a way it's like an old reliable car that has got me this far and I love it too much to want to get rid of it.
    I also discovered that working out helps me feel better. I trained vigorously as a youth, had a lot of energy and was quite strong, it's no surprise to find the same dynamics work just as well now and are beneficial for my physical and mental well being. I've learned I can increase my testosterone levels through training combined with the right diet which is reflected in my focus and mood levels (if I don't do it after a while I start to feel crappy) so I've developed ways of finding the balance I need. It's not a medical story but it is relevant.

    I like when my sisters call me bro, or if someone mistakes my gender at first glance, or being able to use the gents in an emergency :P
    I also like that for me it's been nothing more than natural progression and that I finally get to appreciate the qualities of both.

    (I stopped using my full first name years ago preferring the shortened version of it as it's preferably non gender specific)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,232 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Found a list of terms on TENIs website -quite useful to have it

    http://www.teni.ie/page.aspx?contentid=139

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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