Great disasters in Irish history

twinytwo · 16-11-2010 10:41am

COYW wrote: »

Yawn. The OP is right, it was one of the great disasters in Irish history. If we were still under british rule today, we would be in the sh1t we are in and also thousands of lives wouldnt have been lost up the north.

Actually had we stayed under british rule the death toll for the entire country would have been much higher

LordSutch · 16-11-2010 11:04am

In no particular order.

The Famine
The Great War (loss of life)
The Rise Of Fenianism
Leaving the Union (in the way we did)
The sinking of RMS Leinster
The Provos campaign
The fall of the Celtic Tiger
Child abuse in industrial schools.

TOOYOUNGTODIE · 16-11-2010 11:11am

Celebrity Bull****store- what muck

thebigbiffo · 16-11-2010 11:12am

nigerians.

that is all...

Sanjuro · 16-11-2010 11:28am

September 12th 1951.

Duggy747 · 16-11-2010 12:27pm

September 1985 - I was born

I sincerely apologise to the citizens of Ireland

Wompa1 · 16-11-2010 1:02pm

Duggy747 wrote: »

September 1985 - I was born

I sincerely apologise to the citizens of Ireland

Finally we get an apology

LondonIrish90 · 16-11-2010 1:33pm

twinytwo wrote: »

I cant understand how anyone sees this as a bad thing... caused mass genocide and killed and/or shipped out many of our great leaders/thinkers thus eventually leaving us with the ****e that became FF and oh lets not forget they tried to wipe out "irishness" if you will. Im sorry but i would rather the country sank to the bottom of the ocean that go back to those cnuts

impressive. The British as a people = c*nts?

sensibleken · 16-11-2010 1:48pm

Diarmat McMurrough asking the normans for help in regaining his crown was the worst.

The famine in 1798 in wexford caused by a property bubble was striking similar to the one were in today.

Nodin · 16-11-2010 1:58pm

LordSutch wrote: »

In no particular order.

The Famine
The Great War (loss of life)
The Rise Of Fenianism
Leaving the Union (in the way we did)
The sinking of RMS Leinster
The Provos campaign
The fall of the Celtic Tiger
Child abuse in industrial schools.

I'm suprised your list doesn't include "development of a spine"....

twinytwo · 16-11-2010 2:28pm

LondonIrish90 wrote: »

impressive. The British as a people = c*nts?

Its a part of their history that is talked about much in england even though it as much a part of their history as it is ours. Most would like to pretend that most of what went on over here didnt actually happen.

And no where did i say the british as a people... that like saying all germans are as bad as hitler

LordSutch · 16-11-2010 2:33pm

Nodin wrote: »

I'm suprised your list doesn't include "development of a spine"....

Oh yes, and the spire

aDeener · 16-11-2010 2:35pm

The "Famine"

LondonIrish90 · 16-11-2010 2:37pm

twinytwo wrote: »

Its a part of their history that is talked about much in england even though it as much a part of their history as it is ours. Most would like to pretend that most of what went on over here didnt actually happen.

And no where did i say the british as a people... that like saying all germans are as bad as hitler

"Im sorry but i would rather the country sank to the bottom of the ocean that go back to those cnuts"

Sorry, it appears to be rather sweeping, thats all. Maybe you didn't intend to call every British person a "c*nt", but that makes me wonder who "those cnuts" actually refers to.

Wile E. Coyote · 16-11-2010 2:49pm

aDeener wrote: »

The "Famine"

There was no famine in Ireland it was a starvation. For a famine there has to be no food. The Irish had loads of food it was just taken off them and shipped abroad.

twinytwo · 16-11-2010 2:56pm

Wile E. Coyote wrote: »

There was no famine in Ireland it was a starvation. For a famine there has to be no food. The Irish had loads of food it was just taken off them and shipped abroad.

Ireland was a net exporter of food during the famine years... the only crop that could be grown in abundance on the poor land in the west of the country was the spud. thus when the blight hit we were ****ed.. throw in the fact that the queen tried to blocade turkish ships bringing food from entering irish ports

Beanstalk · 16-11-2010 2:57pm

The Arranmore Island Boat tragedy was a real disaster.

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal/arranmoretragedy.htm

LordSutch · 16-11-2010 3:01pm

Wile E. Coyote wrote: »

The Irish had loads of food it was just taken off them and shipped abroad.

So are you saying that they were in effect murdered?

twinytwo · 16-11-2010 3:03pm

LordSutch wrote: »

So are you saying that they were in effect murdered?

How else would you describe it?

Wile E. Coyote · 16-11-2010 3:04pm

twinytwo wrote: »

Ireland was a net exporter of food during the famine years... the only crop that could be grown in abundance on the poor land in the west of the country was the spud. thus when the blight hit we were ****ed.. throw in the fact that the queen tried to blocade turkish ships bringing food from entering irish ports

The humble spud wasn't the sole source of food for the Irish. They had a good diet of fruit, veg, meat, poultry, fish, bread etc. Losing the spud on it's own wouldn't have effected them too much. What killed them was when the British removed all other sources of food and shipped it out of the country.

http://www.irishholocaust.org/thefoodremoval

Wile E. Coyote · 16-11-2010 3:05pm

LordSutch wrote: »

So are you saying that they were in effect murdered?

What would you call it?

LordSutch · 16-11-2010 3:09pm

twinytwo wrote: »

How else would you describe it?

I have the Famine at the top of my list (post#63), the number one disaster in Irish history without doubt, not so sure though that you can just blame the 'Brits' in such a simple fashion, much as you would like to . . .

twinytwo · 16-11-2010 3:13pm

LordSutch wrote: »

I have the Famine at the top of my list (post#64), the number one disaster in Irish history without doubt, not so sure though that you can just blame the 'Brits' in such a simple fashion, much as you would like to . . .

had they not invaded the country will the blight would have happened the famine prob would not have imo... and even if it had it wouldnt have been nearly as bad as it was.

Warper · 16-11-2010 3:42pm

LordSutch wrote: »

I have the Famine at the top of my list (post#64), the number one disaster in Irish history without doubt, not so sure though that you can just blame the 'Brits' in such a simple fashion, much as you would like to . . .

Read a history book and educate yourself

Wile E. Coyote · 16-11-2010 4:00pm

LordSutch wrote: »

I have the Famine at the top of my list (post#64), the number one disaster in Irish history without doubt, not so sure though that you can just blame the 'Brits' in such a simple fashion, much as you would like to . . .

If the blame doesn't lie with them then where does it lie? Do a bit of research on the subject. It's well documented that tons of food were shipped out of the country daily under armed guard. Relief ships full of food were turned away from Irish ports and re-directed to Britain where it was sold on to others.

The only one's who had a hand in any of that were the British so who do you think is to blame?

aDeener · 16-11-2010 4:03pm

Wile E. Coyote wrote: »

There was no famine in Ireland it was a starvation. For a famine there has to be no food. The Irish had loads of food it was just taken off them and shipped abroad.

hence the inverted commas

Wile E. Coyote · 16-11-2010 4:08pm

aDeener wrote: »

hence the inverted commas

Sorry. It's been a long day...

Corsendonk · 16-11-2010 4:16pm

Charlie Bird returning to Ireland after discovering the USA was a big place.

fontanalis · 16-11-2010 4:18pm

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LordSutch · 16-11-2010 4:41pm

Warper wrote: »

Read a history book and educate yourself

Really :rolleyes:

Great disasters in Irish history

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