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RacoonQueen wrote: »Yep...I was going to mount the footpath and drive at you but I thought that would be a bit extreme.
in fairness, we both know that would end with you managing to drive the car into the river while I looked on unscathed
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The only supplementary work I do is about 20 minutes of
roll one calf
bicycle crunches
clams
roll quads
leg lifts
one leg bridges
roll other calf
three or four times a week. Time is always an issue
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Better than nothing, but could be something to build on.
Progression is important here as in other aspects of training.
If you get injured you will have plenty of time.
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The only supplementary work I do is about 20 minutes of
roll one calf
bicycle crunches
clams
roll quads
leg lifts
one leg bridges
roll other calf
three or four times a week. Time is always an issue.
I'd say that's a lot more than most of us do.
I wonder if the question should be are you getting the right value for your time investment - are there other excercises that you should be doing instead??0 -
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outforarun wrote: »based on a photo I saw posted on here somewhere, I'm pretty sure we crossed paths Sunday morning. Just after the S-bends I was lapping anticlockwise, had my Blessington 10K top on and was chatting with a cyclist.
oh yes, I remember you
(no idea what you look like or what top you were wearing, but I remember a guy running beside a cyclist ) 0 -
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Hips better today, but it was only 10k home.
I'm thinking of dropping the midweek session for this month (I thought you already had, says you), replacing it with an easy MLR. All these accumulated aches and pains (shoulders, centre of back, lower back, hips, knees, top of foot, sole of foot) and the pace in recent runs is making me think I have or I'm in danger of overcooking it. Better to do the two or three remaining sessions well and get confidence from them.
For the autumn, I'm thinking of extending the base building period another 6 weeks (though it might include some races for fun, maybe even some group training sessions), increasing the mileage more, and doing just 12 weeks of Daniels.
I think if I was usually reading something like that Id think 'another from the listen-to-your-body brigade' and hit unfollow
In the case of the Daniels plan - I think you are right. I did it twice, once I ran a time I was happy enough with at the time, and the other was a DNF for other reasons. However, for both I felt that I had peaked 6 weeks out (61:0X for 10m first time and 60:37 the second) and was getting slower in the final weeks due to fatigue (and session-dread). Looking back, the time I was happy with (2:57) I shouldnt really have been.
I think most of us dont have the base to do the plan properly. I found that setting 70 mpw as the peak meant that many weeks didnt have enough miles in them (49-56) to support the killer Q sessions.
KC did well on it - running 90-100 mpw though
I reckon a midweek MLR is a good idea.0 -
RacoonQueen wrote: »Yep...I was going to mount you .
Jaybus, dotcomdolly will have the knives out for you 0 -
theboyblunder wrote: »I think if I was usually reading something like that Id think 'another from the listen-to-your-body brigade' and hit unfollow
In the case of the Daniels plan - I think you are right. I did it twice, once I ran a time I was happy enough with at the time, and the other was a DNF for other reasons. However, for both I felt that I had peaked 6 weeks out (61:0X for 10m first time and 60:37 the second) and was getting slower in the final weeks due to fatigue (and session-dread). Looking back, the time I was happy with (2:57) I shouldnt really have been.
I think most of us dont have the base to do the plan properly. I found that setting 70 mpw as the peak meant that many weeks didnt have enough miles in them (49-56) to support the killer Q sessions.
KC did well on it - running 90-100 mpw though
I reckon a midweek MLR is a good idea.
+1000 I have always said it will make you bullet proof if you can survive it and honesty most don't have the years of aerobic base to get the benefit from it
I know myself I have done a handful of the sessions from it with the likes of KC and Tunguska and always thought to myself yeah its a great workout to do once every few weeks but my legs would not handle it week in, week out0 -
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(new log title because the old one was a joke, and someone has to class this place up a bit It will also be the basis of the Dublin training plan...)
Quidquid latine dictum, altum videtur. Senito aliquos togatos contra me conspirare.
Good luck with Limerick. You can always pull the plug if it twangs.0 -
An old primary school teacher of mine used to always say "take your time but hurry up"
Go do Limerick - it's ages since you've done a marathon so it would be worth it for the experience again. You just need to be sensible about pulling up if necessary.0 -
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PaulieYifter wrote: »
Go do Limerick - it's ages since you've done a marathon so it would be worth it for the experience again.
Did he not end up in a wheelchair last time?:D 0 -
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