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2010 Morgan Kelly Article- Ireland is finished

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    #152
    [Deleted User]
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    RoverJames wrote: »
    Admin work shouldn't command a salary of 32K.

    FFS there are guards, nurses etc doing shiftwork and not getting much more than that, 32K for admin, sweet Jesus.


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    #153
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    RIP Republic of Ireland 1949-2010:(:mad:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tOpwgrqshU


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    #154
    BraziliaNZ
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    RoverJames wrote: »
    FFS there are guards, nurses etc doing shiftwork and not getting much more than that, 32K for admin, sweet Jesus.

    There are highly specialised tax officers in Ireland that bring in a lot of money for the country, working for Revenue. The Revenue are the last department you should be picking on. I had friends working in the Baggot st/Merrion square business jungle a few years ago getting paid 40k for admin work and PA stuff. Begger's belief...


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    #155
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    BraziliaNZ wrote: »
    There are highly specialised tax officers in Ireland that bring in a lot of money for the country, working for Revenue. The Revenue are the last department you should be picking on. I had friends working in the Baggot st/Merrion square business jungle a few years ago getting paid 40k for admin work and PA stuff. Begger's belief...

    I'm not on about tax officers, I am on about folk doing admin work.


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    #156
    BraziliaNZ
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,671 ✭✭✭BraziliaNZ


    RoverJames wrote: »
    I'm not on about tax officers, I am on about folk doing admin work.

    What do you mean by admin work? Most work in the civil service is what you could call administration. Administration could be another word for government.


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    #157
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    BraziliaNZ wrote: »
    What do you mean by admin work?

    Folks in the motor tax office, folks who in the parking fines office also no doubt there are actual folk who work in good old fashioned admin, pr1cjing about with invoices etc.


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    #158
    danbohan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,914 ✭✭✭danbohan


    BraziliaNZ wrote: »
    the same as ever it's descended into public sector wages being too much, and that they are bankrupting the country. Yawn.

    funny that , could it be because its true!


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    #159
    jkforde
    Registered Users Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭jkforde


    IMHO, the problems started with benchmarking when the Public Service (as in service to the State) was renamed to the economically focused Public Sector (as in service to mé féin). Call me a hopeless idealist but we need idealist patriots in public service, not just people cynically riding the thick and rich gravy train. Now, I'm not calling all in the PS cynical but let those honest workers stand up and be counted and lets us all abandon our shared hypocrisy and start to introspect and start to be honest with ourselves and our brothers and sisters and mates and wives and husbands and sons and daughters...

    🌦️ 6.7kwp, 45°, SSW, mid-Galway 🌦️



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    #160
    Kimia
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    Can someone please explain what this will mean to the normal tax paying people in their 20's and 30's. A lot of this is going over my head (:o) but I would really like to know, what exact effect this will have on me personally and my friends/family.


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    #161
    Diapason
    Registered Users Posts: 452 ✭✭Diapason


    Kimia wrote: »
    Can someone please explain what this will mean to the normal tax paying people in their 20's and 30's. A lot of this is going over my head (:o) but I would really like to know, what exact effect this will have on me personally and my friends/family.

    You'll be soundly buggered without lube or pre-rimming, metaphorically speaking, and all those things that you used to expect for your taxes (education, health services, etc.) will be even more grossly underfunded than ever.


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    #162
    Kimia
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    Tbh that's still very vague and unspecific. What effect will it have on my wages for example. I already know I won't be buying a house anytime soon which is grand. I don't plan on having any kids for ages if ever. I'm already educated and working away grand. What kind of an effect will Ireland going bankrupt have on me?

    I know I sound so self-obsessed but it's the only way I can get a real handle on the situation!


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    #163
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    Kimia wrote: »
    Can someone please explain what this will mean to the normal tax paying people in their 20's and 30's. A lot of this is going over my head (:o) but I would really like to know, what exact effect this will have on me personally and my friends/family.

    Put simply; higher taxes and fewer services for those taxes!

    For people on lower incomes the ends that they struggle to make meet will be pulled further apart.


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    #164
    kippy
    Registered Users Posts: 18,472 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    Kimia wrote: »
    Tbh that's still very vague and unspecific. What effect will it have on my wages for example. I already know I won't be buying a house anytime soon which is grand. I don't plan on having any kids for ages if ever. I'm already educated and working away grand. What kind of an effect will Ireland going bankrupt have on me?

    I know I sound so self-obsessed but it's the only way I can get a real handle on the situation!

    Of course it is vague and unspecific as most of the effects will be pretty vague and unspecific.
    The only measurables are in terms of income. The bottom line is the taxation applied to your income will increase, whether this be via direct via income and prsi/levies or via water,property VAT etc.
    The less tanglible side to it is what will happen in the public service. If the public service are cut in numbers and wages, one would hope people would do what they could to become more efficient, reducing wastage and focusing on the services that the public require. However he dont know whether that will happen (I hope it does)
    This less tanglible side will effect you in some way shape or form but its damn near impossible to predict.
    The other potential side of it is the company you currently work for. Depending on what the EU do, they may decide to relocate, as would a number of other companies.
    If you company is involved in selling goods and services there may be less demand on them as a result and so on......

    Its pretty difficult to tell how this will effect the guy on the street to be honest.


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    #165
    Amhran Nua
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    BraziliaNZ wrote: »
    What do you mean by admin work? Most work in the civil service is what you could call administration. Administration could be another word for government.
    I believe its in reference to the increasingly talked-about middle management rump.


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    #166
    Amhran Nua
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,124 ✭✭✭Amhran Nua


    Diapason wrote: »
    Instead we had 10 x joint salary, after you'd fiddled your P60, and now the country's gone to sh*t. It's not surprising really.
    I never got this, how do you fiddle your bank statement? Thats the only thing any mortgage lender needs to check to see your month on month income.


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    #167
    Diapason
    Registered Users Posts: 452 ✭✭Diapason


    Amhran Nua wrote: »
    I never got this, how do you fiddle your bank statement? Thats the only thing any mortgage lender needs to check to see your month on month income.

    Tipp-ex?


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    #168
    scientific1982
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    Doom and gloom.


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    #169
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    scientific1982 wrote: »
    Doom and gloom.
    Not really, just see this as the end of an old way of life and the beginning of a new one!

    Just that the new life will involve less money.


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    #170
    Ali Babba
    Closed Accounts Posts: 874 ✭✭✭Ali Babba


    ...and lots more taxes.


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    #171
    Fred_Johnson
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    I wanted to revive this discussion just to remember where we were as a country just a few short years ago. In the space of 5 years we've gone from people thinking the country is finished, to being at the top of the EU economic league table, with 4.3% growth predicted in 2017 and unemployment heading towards 5%. While there has been much pain, and there is still pain in certain areas, we need to reflect on what a remarkable recovery it's been.


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    #172
    GLaDOS
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    Not gonna lie, I didn't realise this was a 7 year old thread and was getting pretty worried there :o

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



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    #173
    Arghus
    Registered Users Posts: 14,377 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Fred_Johnson wrote: »
    I wanted to revive this discussion just to remember where we were as a country just a few short years ago. In the space of 5 years we've gone from people thinking the country is finished, to being at the top of the EU economic league table, with 4.3% growth predicted in 2017 and unemployment heading towards 5%. While there has been much pain, and there is still pain in certain areas, we need to reflect on what a remarkable recovery it's been.

    Yeah, we only had to cut thousands of young people loose!


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    #174
    Wheeliebin30
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    Arghus wrote: »
    Yeah, we only had to cut thousands of young people loose!

    6 out of 7 people who emigrated had a job at the time.


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    #175
    wandatowell
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    GLaDOS wrote: »
    Not gonna lie, I didn't realise this was a 7 year old thread and was getting pretty worried there :o

    Ditto



    :o


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    #176
    catbear
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,092 ✭✭✭catbear


    Arghus wrote: »
    Fred_Johnson wrote: »
    I wanted to revive this discussion just to remember where we were as a country just a few short years ago. In the space of 5 years we've gone from people thinking the country is finished, to being at the top of the EU economic league table, with 4.3% growth predicted in 2017 and unemployment heading towards 5%. While there has been much pain, and there is still pain in certain areas, we need to reflect on what a remarkable recovery it's been.

    Yeah, we only had to cut thousands of young people loose!
    Left for oz in 2011, returned 2015, was working within a month. Plenty more returning, especially as Australia cools off.

    Thankfully not Dublin based as rents there would have put off a return if that were the only place to get work.

    Am abroad again by choice for a short stint but ultimately can see a long term return.


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    #177
    Sheeps
    Registered Users Posts: 2,762 ✭✭✭Sheeps


    Necro this thread again when the current bubble in Dublin pops.


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    #178
    DrumSteve
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    Fred_Johnson wrote: »
    I wanted to revive this discussion just to remember where we were as a country just a few short years ago. In the space of 5 years we've gone from people thinking the country is finished, to being at the top of the EU economic league table, with 4.3% growth predicted in 2017 and unemployment heading towards 5%. While there has been much pain, and there is still pain in certain areas, we need to reflect on what a remarkable recovery it's been.

    I guess you could say, there's been a lot done and more to do.


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    #179
    SPDUB
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    One question ,who the hell is Morgan Kelly


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    #180
    catbear
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    SPDUB wrote: »
    One question ,who the hell is Morgan Kelly
    I felt the same when I returned from oz and asked who's Nathan Carter?


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    #181
    A Little Pony
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭A Little Pony


    Fred_Johnson wrote: »
    I wanted to revive this discussion just to remember where we were as a country just a few short years ago. In the space of 5 years we've gone from people thinking the country is finished, to being at the top of the EU economic league table, with 4.3% growth predicted in 2017 and unemployment heading towards 5%. While there has been much pain, and there is still pain in certain areas, we need to reflect on what a remarkable recovery it's been.
    This is down to Enda Kenny and his fantastic government and his leadership.


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