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Women Do Not Enjoy Sex

  • 01-11-2010 9:35am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭


    Or so says Stephen Fry....
    The openly homosexual broadcaster said it was clear that women had no interest in sex from the fact that they do not go out seeking casual encounters in graveyards or on Hampstead Heath.

    He claimed that women only go to bed with men “because sex is the price they are willing to pay for a relationship”. He said: "If women liked sex as much as men, there would be straight cruising areas in the way there are gay cruising areas. Women would go and hang around in churchyards thinking: 'God, I've got to get my f
    rocks off', or they'd go to Hampstead Heath and meet strangers to shag behind a bush.

    “It doesn't happen. Why? Because the only women you can have sex with like that wish to be paid for it."

    He continued: "I feel sorry for straight men. The only reason women will have sex with them is that sex is the price they are willing to pay for a relationship with a man, which is what they want.

    “Of course, a lot of women will deny this and say, 'Oh no, but I love sex, I love it!' But do they go around having it the way that gay men do?"

    Link ; http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/8099784/Stephen-Fry-angers-feminists-by-claiming-women-do-not-enjoy-sex.html

    Hmm. Has Fry got a point, or is he just trolling?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,200 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    Wait.. wait..













    .. wait a minute..





    .. hold on..





    .. but..





    .. what...




    .. hmmmm..





    .. Stephen Fry is gay?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭liah


    EDIT: Figured as much.

    http://twitter.com/#!/stephenfry
    So some ****ing paper misquotes a humorous interview I gave, which itself misquoted me and now I'm the Antichrist. I give up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,580 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Or so says Stephen Fry
    the well known satirist?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    "women don't enjoy sex" says a gay man according to the press who like to pick up on every second word and run with it like it was the gods truth.

    (Edited in light of the tweet above)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    So just because women don't act like gay men they don't like sex?
    Logic fail from Fry.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    More to do with the behaviour of certain gay men than straight women tbh. If that's what he is getting at he is 100% correct.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    There aren't "straight cruising areas" like Hampstead Heath, etc because the whole world is a straight cruising area. I've been hit on in just about every area of my life and when I was single if I was interested in a man I would let him know my interest no matter where we were.

    The reason that specific cruising areas for gay men came about is because it can be dangerous for a man to hit on another man if he isn't sure of his sexuality. In the past it was illegal and even now some people are so bigoted/homophobic that they treat a show of interest from someone of the same sex as a slur rather than a compliment.

    Though I assume someone as obviously intelligent as Fry knows this and was making a joke which is being misrepresented.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,352 ✭✭✭daveyboy_1ie


    Obviosly I am no expert, being a male n all but I would imagine its a lot to do with women of course like sex as much as men but women have a much more emotional attachment to sex and so the thoughts of quickies with random men would not appeal to the majority of women. The average single bloke would take it whilst they can and have no wish to consider the consequences.

    Not all women are like that of course, the same as not all men like one night stands. But as a general rule of thumb I would say its not a bad one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,466 ✭✭✭Snakeblood


    Obviosly I am no expert, being a male n all but I would imagine its a lot to do with women of course like sex as much as men but women have a much more emotional attachment to sex and so the thoughts of quickies with random men would not appeal to the majority of women. The average single bloke would take it whilst they can and have no wish to consider the consequences.

    Not all women are like that of course, the same as not all men like one night stands. But as a general rule of thumb I would say its not a bad one.

    I work under the assumption that whatever I think about women is wrong. It saves me being told. :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,417 ✭✭✭Miguel_Sanchez


    He was joking.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,262 ✭✭✭✭Joey the lips


    i think thats a reasonable conclusion when you consider

    men want it 5 times a day and women want it once a month....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,466 ✭✭✭Snakeblood


    liah wrote: »
    EDIT: Figured as much.

    http://twitter.com/#!/stephenfry

    If I was a celebrity I'd tape all my interviews and then release the tapes publicly if I felt I was misquoted.

    See how some ****ing journalist likes trolling and leading questions being put out in the public domain to make them look like a heel.

    N.B. Working under the assumption that S. Fry was genuinely misquoted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,164 ✭✭✭hobochris


    I have a few thoughts on this:

    1. Stephen Fry must be **** in the sack.

    2. Gay men, Straight men and women all tend to have different mindsets.

    3. I've herd many a time 'In a relationship man needs sex to feel loved, a Woman needs to feel loved to have sex.'

    4.Stephen Fry must be **** in the sack.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,485 ✭✭✭✭Ickle Magoo


    i think thats a reasonable conclusion when you consider

    men want it 5 times a day and women want it once a month....

    Usually a clear case of quality dictating quantity... :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭liah


    Yeah, as much as Fry may find women an alien species this does not seem at all like anything he would actually say with intent. He's a comedian and a very intelligent one at that, but everyone messes up. He's only human and happened to say something without thinking it through.

    I'd imagine once he comes out of his swing he'll clear it up. It would be very odd for him to actually mean something like that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,053 ✭✭✭PanchoVilla


    Meh, who cares what he thinks? He's gay, what does he know about sex with women? It's like Hugh Hefner saying all gay men like to eat da poo poo.

    Edit: And what's this obsession with Stephen Fry anyway? Ok, he's funny enough but he's not some sort of god or anything. I really hate this fúcking celebrity culture, it's drives me mental sometimes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,200 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    It's like Hugh Hefner saying all gay men like to eat da poo poo.
    Hmmmm... Hugh Hefner is quite the wordsmith!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,262 ✭✭✭✭Joey the lips


    Usually a clear case of quality dictating quantity... :p

    That says a lot about me so.....and not much about her!

    I agree but tbh i would have a great imagination so would happily accept qty any day...

    plus it does our ego wonders to refuse too much


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,053 ✭✭✭PanchoVilla


    basquille wrote: »
    Hmmmm... Hugh Hefner is quite the wordsmith!

    I see you haven't had the pleasure of watching the following video. :p



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    I laughed out loud when i read that in the guardian.

    Hes a comedian, youre not ment to take it seriously ted. they might as well say 'Fry listens in on bar conversation, accuses an englishman, an irishman and a scotsman'


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,596 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    If only that misquote had been in the Daily Mail


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,148 ✭✭✭✭KnifeWRENCH


    Like people have said already, he was joking.

    ....but if he wasn't, then we'd have no choice but to agree and accept his word.

    Stephen Fry > All of us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 510 ✭✭✭CdeC


    Women respond to sex in different ways and definitely have different priorities.,

    He has a point but only in the way that I think women enjoy sex more if there is an emotional attachment involved whereas men seem to find it easier to seperate love and sex. But this is obviously a very general statement.

    Thank god women don't behave like gay men. Every bar in the land would just be a dark room.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭jackiebaron


    Women don't go in search of casual sex near where they live because they don't want to be stigmatised as "easy" or "slutty" because of the unfortunate, well, stigmatisation that exists in our society. They don't want to get a bad reputation in their social circle. However when they head off to Ibiza or Magaluff they shag themselves silly and that's just fine by me, bless their little hearts. They can go off on an anonymous two-week booze and shag bender and nobody can tell me they are in search of a relationship.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,822 ✭✭✭iPlop


    Stephen Fry hasn't a clue ,my missus loves it trust me;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,475 ✭✭✭✭Ghost Train


    Don't think you can generalize so much

    Would dogging not be the equivalent to what Fry was talking about


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,822 ✭✭✭iPlop


    Don't think you can generalize so much

    Would dogging not be the equivalent to what Fry was talking about

    Good point ,I suppose it would


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Hmmm, has Fry given up Twitter because of this?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭Morlar


    And what's this obsession with Stephen Fry anyway? Ok, he's funny enough but he's not some sort of god or anything. I really hate this fúcking celebrity culture, it's drives me mental sometimes.

    There is a real cult of personality around him that I don't understand either. He was a lot funnier 20 yrs ago than he is now.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭liah


    I doubt it.. have a feeling he's probably on a "down."


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Not another one. I do like him but sweet jesus he is bloody precious at times.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,367 ✭✭✭Rabble Rabble


    He is talking about the free wheeling male gay lifestyle, as opposed to the female version of settling. Let's take cottaging. Doesn't happen hetrosexually.

    Can't go onto communal jacks in london and expect my dick sucked off by a woman, it is easy enough for gay men. ( Of course in a heterosexual cottage the gory holes would be big enough for some reciprocation - at least some fingering).

    so why dont women pop in Jacks to suck of, or get fingered in a glory hole?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,367 ✭✭✭Rabble Rabble


    Good point ,I suppose it would

    The point about dogging is it always couples. Single mean cannot turn up and expect to find single women there at the same ratio. In fact single men are banned, more or less, and that is true of most sex clubs too. And on sex sites the ratio of men to women is 10-1.

    (Well unless there is money involved.)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,910 ✭✭✭✭RoundyMooney


    “Of course, a lot of women will deny this and say, 'Oh no, but I love sex, I love it!' But do they go around having it the way that gay men do?"

    There's an in yer endo in there somewhere, I just know it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭laugh


    I think he was making fun of the idea that all gay men are always horny and riding all the time in toilets and bushes.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    humanji wrote: »
    Hmmm, has Fry given up Twitter because of this?

    Just noticed that.. He no longer has the 'Verified Account' seal on his page either. I'm a big fan of his but do actually wish he'd cut back on his twittering and focus more on the stuff that endeared him so much to people in the first place.

    Although, this time last year - http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/the_web/article6898420.ece


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    Or so says Stephen Fry....



    Link ; http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/8099784/Stephen-Fry-angers-feminists-by-claiming-women-do-not-enjoy-sex.html

    Hmm. Has Fry got a point, or is he just trolling?

    *roflmao

    As a woman, I have to admit he's got a point. Why can't we have straight cruising areas? I would LOVE that!!!
    But as things are, you get strange looks just for telling people that you like to f*ck people other than your husband. :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭liah


    He may have quit temporarily but my guess is that this caught him at bad timing.

    There's two things we know about Stephen:

    1) He loves Twitter and being technologically linked to people. He's a nerd.
    2) He's manic depressive/bi-polar to a fairly serious degree.

    Chances are he'll be back when he goes into an up swing. I doubt he'd be able to resist the internet for very long, especially Twitter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Just noticed that.. He no longer has the 'Verified Account' seal on his page either. I'm a big fan of his but do actually wish he'd cut back on his twittering and focus more on the stuff that endeared him so much to people in the first place.

    Although, this time last year - http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/the_web/article6898420.ece

    He has been quiet the last few weeks, think he is away on a film set.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,550 ✭✭✭Min


    Stephen Fry - Joking?

    You mean he wasn't intelligent enough to see the reaction which has now left him pissed off.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,482 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    Simple evolutionary reasons why women don't want sex as often as men.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,200 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    K-9 wrote: »
    He has been quiet the last few weeks, think he is away on a film set.
    Yeah.. real quiet!
    11:54 AM Oct 30th via Twitter for iPhone
    11:52 AM Oct 30th via Twitter for iPhone
    7:20 AM Oct 30th via Twitter for iPhone
    7:17 AM Oct 30th via Twitter for iPhone
    10:22 AM Oct 29th via Twitter for iPhone in reply to caitlinmoran
    10:03 AM Oct 29th via Twitter for iPad in reply to Will_Taylor_1
    9:48 AM Oct 29th via Twitter for iPhone
    9:29 AM Oct 29th via Twitter for iPad
    9:23 AM Oct 29th via Twitter for iPad
    9:18 AM Oct 29th via Twitter for iPhone
    8:29 AM Oct 29th via Twitter for iPhone
    6:50 AM Oct 29th via Twitter for iPhone
    4:23 AM Oct 29th via web
    2:22 AM Oct 29th via Twitter for iPhone
    12:20 AM Oct 29th via Twitter for iPhone

    7:05 AM Oct 28th via Twitter for iPhone in reply to williamgodfree
    7:04 AM Oct 28th via Twitter for iPhone

    :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭Morlar


    liah wrote: »
    There's two things we know about Stephen:

    1) He loves Twitter and being technologically linked to people. He's a nerd.
    2) He's manic depressive/bi-polar to a fairly serious degree.

    A third thing we know is that we are not on first name terms.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,941 ✭✭✭thebigbiffo


    if he was joking:

    it's funny cos it's true...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 178 ✭✭miseeire


    I believe Mr.Fry has an addiction with being in the spotlight and he will do or say anything to feed his addiction.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    miseeire wrote: »
    I believe Mr.Fry has an addiction with being in the spotlight and he will do or say anything to feed his addiction.
    Or he's just having a laugh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭liah


    Morlar wrote: »
    A third thing we know is that we are not on first name terms.

    Oh jesus. His name is Stephen Fry. I typed Stephen. I'm clearly just so presumptuous, how dare I!

    Stephen is faster to type than Stephen Fry. We are on the topic of Stephen Fry. It can be assumed that the Stephen I was referring to was that of the Fry nature.

    Colloquial speaking isn't a crime.

    Plus, I find titles kinda outdated.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,160 ✭✭✭Kimono-Girl



    it's funny cos it's true...


    no it's not :eek:


    I am a woman, i enjoy sex, frequently.;)

    maybe Mr.Fry is just not that good at it???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,367 ✭✭✭Rabble Rabble


    no it's not :eek:


    I am a woman, i enjoy sex, frequently.;)

    maybe Mr.Fry is just not that good at it???

    Lets knock this "not any good at it" on the head. He is gay. He has never slept with a woman.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,367 ✭✭✭Rabble Rabble


    liah wrote: »
    Oh jesus. His name is Stephen Fry. I typed Stephen. I'm clearly just so presumptuous, how dare I!

    Stephen is faster to type than Stephen Fry. We are on the topic of Stephen Fry. It can be assumed that the Stephen I was referring to was that of the Fry nature.

    Colloquial speaking isn't a crime.

    Plus, I find titles kinda outdated.

    I've met him and I call him Lord Fry of hampsted. He insists.


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