Off-Topic Thread

Serephucus

Got my M4 installed yesturday, and damn, it's fast! I now have all my apps bar Steam on my SSD and I still have about 95GB free, bliss!

Headshot

Can you sell your Steam account? Just looking on ebay there and I see some

Wouldnt mind going down that avenue too

Monotype

Headshot wrote: »

Can you sell your Steam account? Just looking on ebay there and I see some

Wouldnt mind going down that avenue too

AFAIK, it's against their agreement and they sometimes ban accounts that are for sale/sold if they know who they are (hence the blocked out names on ebay). You could easily get away it if you were in personal contact with someone but you'd be on more iffy grounds in a public sale.
Also, if anything goes wrong and you have an account with a big archive of games, Valve won't come to your rescue.

Serephucus

Quick question for all the M4 owners here:

I'm getting about 400/175 seq.R/W according to ATTO. I assume that's within the realm of normality for these drives?

Brian

Headshot wrote: »

Razer Tiamat 7.1 are finally out I see

180 euro

Wont be going near them at that price

Gaming headsets are ****.

http://www.vanillatf2.org/2011/07/guide-toss-your-old-headphones/

Serephucus

That's an extremely bad article. Absolutely no depth at all when it comes to pros and cons, and none of the "better" headsets have mics!

Also, not all gaming headsets are USB. Sennheiser's PC360 is excellent, as one example.

Headshot

Monotype wrote: »

AFAIK, it's against their agreement and they sometimes ban accounts that are for sale/sold if they know who they are (hence the blocked out names on ebay). You could easily get away it if you were in personal contact with someone but you'd be on more iffy grounds in a public sale.
Also, if anything goes wrong and you have an account with a big archive of games, Valve won't come to your rescue.

Thanks mono.

It's pretty bad that I can't sell it even thou I have bought no steam games, all my games are on disk

Brian

Serephucus wrote: »

That's an extremely bad article.

Thanks, I wrote it!

none of the "better" headsets have mics!

Try reading it next time?

Serephucus

Baza210 wrote: »

Thanks, I wrote it!

Try reading it next time?

Right, perhaps my first comment was a bit harsh. It's well written, I just don't like the rather big (and quite brutish) generalisations with regards to gamers and their outlook. Many do know a thing or two about what they're buying, and don't just go by marketing hype. The kind of people you're describing are simply (usually) the kind with more money than sense, which of course doesn't just apply to gamers.

As regards mics, I had a semi-skimmed read through it, and I don't see you mention mics for any of the headsets, though there is that bit at the bottom for seperate mics.

Brian

The image at the start is a joke. It's not a very serious site.

The point of the article is that separate headphones + microphone give you greater flexibility, performance, and value.

Anyway, came across this interesting thing on /r/battlestations - http://www.overclock.net/t/1215866/reviewed-400-2560x1440-ips-no-ag-90hz-achieva-shimian-qh270-and-catleap-q270 apparently it's the same LG panel as the 27" iMac / Apple Cinema display, but it's €300 shipped on eBay http://www.ebay.ie/itm/New-YAMAKASI-CATLEAP-Q270-SE-27-LED-2560X1440-WQHD-DVI-D-Dual-Computer-Monitor-/110834882557?pt=Computer_Monitors&hash=item19ce4617fd

glynf

Serephucus wrote: »

Quick question for all the M4 owners here:

I'm getting about 400/175 seq.R/W according to ATTO. I assume that's within the realm of normality for these drives?

Thats not bad, think I had similar woth the last M.board I had as it used the same Marvell 9128 SATA III controller. There are issues using the marvel controller, so a lot of people use the SATA II port instead. If you have it set to AHCI and the latest Intel rapid storage driver you're good.

Tea_Bag

Baza210 wrote: »

The image at the start is a joke. It's not a very serious site.

The point of the article is that separate headphones + microphone give you greater flexibility, performance, and value.

Anyway, came across this interesting thing on /r/battlestations - http://www.overclock.net/t/1215866/reviewed-400-2560x1440-ips-no-ag-90hz-achieva-shimian-qh270-and-catleap-q270 apparently it's the same LG panel as the 27" iMac / Apple Cinema display, but it's €300 shipped on eBay http://www.ebay.ie/itm/New-YAMAKASI-CATLEAP-Q270-SE-27-LED-2560X1440-WQHD-DVI-D-Dual-Computer-Monitor-/110834882557?pt=Computer_Monitors&hash=item19ce4617fd

looks very cool. read quite a bit of that thread. no-one mentioned customs though. if you do get hit, you're looking at at least €75 on top of what you paid.

arg im very interested, i might be shelling out €250 for a u2412 in a week or so.

unfortunately though, at that res, even my 6990 isnt going to handle very high settings.

deconduo

Tea_Bag wrote: »

looks very cool. read quite a bit of that thread. no-one mentioned customs though. if you do get hit, you're looking at at least €75 on top of what you paid.

arg im very interested, i might be shelling out €250 for a u2412 in a week or so.

unfortunately though, at that res, even my 6990 isnt going to handle very high settings.

One of the companies declared it as a $50 monitor for customs, so you'd only have to pay €15 or so. :pac:

Tea_Bag

anyone else want to order one?

I dont want to be a pioneer here.

Icyseanfitz

just after ordering in a 7970 for myself and i now see that monitor really tempting tbh, just out of interest what would a similar quality monitor from say dell or apple cost? also your man in that thread was saying there was a version of those monitors with a dp connection, any idea which one it is?

Bloodwing

Serephucus wrote: »

Quick question for all the M4 owners here:

I'm getting about 400/175 seq.R/W according to ATTO. I assume that's within the realm of normality for these drives?

I'm getting 500/192 seq. r/w with Crystal Disk Mark on my M4. I'll try ATTO and see what i get.

Edit: what transfer size and length are you using on ATTO?

Serephucus

0.5-8192, and 1GB. Queue depth of 4.

I think I get about 380/170 with CDM, will test again.

Edit: CDM gives me 380/180 @ 5/1GB.

Bloodwing

Serephucus wrote: »

0.5-8192, and 1GB. Queue depth of 4.

I think I get about 380/170 with CDM, will test again.

Edit: CDM gives me 380/180 @ 5/1GB.

Here's my results from ATTO and CDM.





This is probably a stupid question but are you using SATA 6GB/s cables?

Serephucus

Neilos wrote: »

Here's my results from ATTO and CDM.





This is probably a stupid question but are you using SATA 6GB/s cables?

Can't see them.

... There's a diference? Dunno where I got it from, but I always thought they were the same. 375 is the theoretical max. for SATA2 though, so surely I have to be using the right cables.

Bloodwing

I'll just post the links directly so.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/71842889@N06/6952785523/in/photostream/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/71842889@N06/6952785643/in/photostream/

I seem to be getting better reads than you. I got 2 SATA 3GB/s and 2 SATA 6GB/s cables with my MB, just thought that might be the reason. I'll try mine on a 3GB/s and see if it has any effect if you want.

Serephucus

Your results do seem quite a bit higher. I take it you're using the 128GB drive too?

Nah, it's fine. I have a feeling it's down to the controller, as the cables are interchangeable.

Bloodwing

Yeah it's the 128GB one.

Fluffy88

Here's what I get.
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I got such different results to it tried it a few times.
The seconds screenshot was the best I got.

I haven't done anything to try boost performance, just ran the bench. I have windows, ubuntu and all my programs on it.

Serephucus

Weird... What drivers are you guys using? Oh, I should mention I'm on 0009 firmware, not the new 0309, though as far as I remember, that was only to fix that crash-every-hour-after-a-given-amount-of-on-time bug, and not a performance enhancing update.

Edit: After a bit of reading, it appears it's the controller on my board. The UD5 uses a Marvell SATA3 chip, which apparently really isn't the greatest in the world - where-as, I'm pretty sure all of you guys with your Z68 boards have native Intel SATA3. Not really a huge issue for me, as the drive is still far, far quicker than my previous SSD. Thanks for doing the benchmark runs though guys.

glynf

glynf wrote: »

Thats not bad, think I had similar woth the last M.board I had as it used the same Marvell 9128 SATA III controller. There are issues using the marvel controller, so a lot of people use the SATA II port instead. If you have it set to AHCI and the latest Intel rapid storage driver you're good.

Serephucus, as mentioned here ^^^^^:)

I ended up using the SATA II ports on the Ga-P55A-UD3 as the Marvel 9128 is an unreliable POS.-sure you have same SATA III controller on your board. Now on a Z68 & getting 494 read, 187 write.

Tea_Bag

Lads i think im going to bite the bullet and get that 27" IPS.

Ill have the money in a week or so and will let you know how i get on.


anyone else?

Brian

Not I - trying to get a 120 Hz at the moment!

Tea_Bag

Baza210 wrote: »

Not I - trying to get a 120 Hz at the moment!

apparently 1080p @120Hz is more taxing than 1600p @ 60hz.

hope you got the juice to fuel the monitor?

im struggling to find benchmarks of a 6990 @1440p.

mostly i care about BF3, and the only bench i can find says 67fps, which is lower in real world multiplayer things. god i hope i dont have to get another 6990 to run BF3 @ ultra settings......

Brian

All I play is TF2, which is much more dependent on CPU than GPU. If I want to get 240 fps steady @ 1080p I'll probably have to drop down from DX9 to DX8. Especially if I'm to continue streaming...

Serephucus

I'd do it except:

a) It doesn't have a VESA mount, which I'd need.
b) Really not a fan of glossy panels.

It's a steal though, hopefully it'll be an amazing monitor.