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Brian

Headshot wrote: »

Thanks for the suggestions in the games lads, ill give Serious Sam a go, never played those games before

On a different subject

I got a new mouse, should I unistall the old mouse or can they both stay on the computer
Newer mouse is the Logitech G9x and the older one is razor respawn 3500

Razer Deathadder Respawn is the name

cherryghost

Headshot wrote: »

Nope that's the new mouse I got

If I was selling id be selling the razor respawn but I think ill keep it, always handy to have a back up mouse


thanks

flip. Misread it. And also I agree, 2 is better than possibly none Still haven't decided what mouse to get to replace my current one.

Headshot

setpoint cant even find my logitech G9x

Headshot

Now I remember why I dont like Logitech software

Osmosae

ShadowHearth wrote: »

I would love to see more people convert to pc or just in addition to console play pc games too.

Unfortunately explaining console player who has no clue about pc hardware abou how pc gaming became better and cheaper is imposible. It's like hitting your head in to wall made out of titanium.

New Xbox will use 6670 and will cost around 600$ dollars, so in eu it will be 600eu.
It rumoured to come out in 1.5 years. You can build a perfect gaming pc for 600eu. In 1.5 years you can build a monster pc which will piss on new Xbox ashes. Plus alot of console gamers forget that in "pc gaming" we have two words. It's gaming and pc. When you buy a high end pc you buy not just ability to play games, but you buy pc too - the biggest multimedia equipment in the world. It's not as expencive as you think when you see a big picture!

Try to explain that to average joe console gamer. Unfortunately it's imposible. There will be always pc gaming haters.

Exactly, previously consoles an pc's didnt directly compete, consoles were around 200, pc's 1000+, but now they are beginning to shift into a similar price ranges.... but for much better bang for buck on the pc side. People aren't as stupid as they sometimes seem. If the value is out there i believe much more people will take advantage of it.

Yeh there'll always be pc gaming hate, but there'll always be playstation hate, or xbox hate, microsoft hate, or apple hate. The stronger the hatred being generated the better that platform is doing. Take apple even 8 years ago, not much bitching about them, but the whole world hated microsoft. Now its a fairly even split, i say bring on an ramp up the pc gaming hatred, it only gives it more publicity in the long run

Monotype wrote: »

I've come to the conclusion that it's not down to graphics, money or the quality of games for most people. They just couldn't be arsed to find better solutions and they'll just buy whatever they see in ads and what their friends have. As you said, things like steam (although I'm not a big fan of it, it does make things more straightforward) and other solutions are not well known. There's a consensus that PC gaming requires a degree in IT and you have to mess around with tweaking everything on a system. I've found that windows 7 has actually been very impressive with sorting out drivers, so in reality, nearly all work for the average person could be eliminated, aside from being careful what you buy initially.
People are often impressed with what a PC has to offer so you could have a big shift if people were educated about the advantages - the only thing is that who would do it? Not the PC manufacturers - the big players wouldn't want to show up that they often put substandard graphics cards in there. Not the game publishers - they make higher margins on console games. Not Microsoft - They said that they would, but they have their own console. Valve maybe? Not for another while, they're nowhere near as powerful as the other developer/publisher giants or consoles. AMD and nVidia do try a bit but they have interests in console hardware. IBM have strong interst too. Intel? ...well they certainly have the money. I could see them pushing it if their Larrabee dedicated card had been a success but they're more interested in advertising their computing power and their name itself.

The Wii U apparently has a 4000 series. But Nintendo usually chooses the slightly slightly weaker components in favour of not selling the consoles for below cost. Maybe Microsoft is taking a page out of their book with the amount of money they lost with selling below cost on top of red rings of death.

I think the developer community will push it, much like what happened with android in a way. If you build they will come. Microsoft has given it a push opening up the kinect officially for the pc. Advancements in the way we interact with computers like the EPOCH system can only be utilised on pc. I dont see any advantage of a console really, other than theres a majority playing it and as u said, people follow their friends. Tech heads lead the way on that front though, get enough tech people back into the pc scene properly, and more will follow.

I'm not talking about pc dominating gaming though. I'm just talking about a resurgence back in pc gaming which had seemed like it was on the verge of death not too long ago....

EDIT: I have a logitech g500 myself, nice mouse, might change it out during the summer though, the trackwheel sometimes annoys me in maya

Headshot

Headshot wrote: »

Now I remember why I dont like Logitech software

Aint it a ****ing kick in the teeth that it works on my laptop but not my gaming pc

I think its down to that software cd which has out of date software :rolleyes:

I thought I deleted it but somewhere (probably the registry) that its messing me up

FlyingIrishMan

Headshot wrote: »

Aint it a ****ing kick in the teeth that it works on my laptop but not my gaming pc

I think its down to that software cd which has out of date software :rolleyes:

I thought I deleted it but somewhere (probably the registry) that its messing me up

Would you not be able to download the software online without the need for a disk?

Headshot

FlyingIrishMan wrote: »

Would you not be able to download the software online without the need for a disk?

oh ya of course but I thought the disk would do the job and that didnt have an update option so you have to uninstall that and download the new one

Brian

Setpoint is **** anyway.

Headshot

Baza210 wrote: »

Setpoint is **** anyway.

yap

but what can I do with out it?

Im in the middle of returning the mouse to amazon, never going near Logitech again

Brian

Uh... use it with the Windows drivers? My MX518 works perfectly without Setpoint installed. Some would say better.

pockets3d

Im looking at upgrading the graphics card in a medion computer from LIDL
its currently a g210 (woe is me)
I was looking at getting a 8800 off adverts but im unsure if ill have enuf power
Using this site http://extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine it says i need i min of 260watts and a recommended 310watts
The PSU is rated at 350 but can i trust that at all from a lidl OEM pc ?

Osmosae

yeah i'm using my g500 without setpoint aswell, still supports dpi switching on the fly and everything (though the levels you can pass through are limited to 3)

Monotype

pockets3d wrote: »

Im looking at upgrading the graphics card in a medion computer from LIDL
its currently a g210 (woe is me)
I was looking at getting a 8800 off adverts but im unsure if ill have enuf power
Using this site http://extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine it says i need i min of 260watts and a recommended 310watts
The PSU is rated at 350 but can i trust that at all from a lidl OEM pc ?

Best thing to do is to open the case and take a picture of the side of the PSU, which should show a table with info and make.

What's the rest of your system too? The 8800 is fairly old so maybe you'd be better off with a current midrange card which have low consumption and similar performance.

pockets3d

Monotype wrote: »

Best thing to do is to open the case and take a picture of the side of the PSU, which should show a table with info and make.

What's the rest of your system too? The 8800 is fairly old so maybe you'd be better off with a current midrange card which have low consumption and similar performance.

Will this do ?
It has a i3 540 3gb memory and a nvidia G210
Just noticed that the graphics card is plugged straigh into the mobo without a power supply ?is it really upgradeably at all ?

Monotype

That doesn't look good, unfortunately. The 12V rail is only 16A (192W). The CPU and graphics card will get their power from there. An i3-540 can hit about 115W while the G210 stays below 30W, from what I've seen. Still, when you count the rest of the system, it leaves next to nothing for upgrades; you'd really need a new PSU for any meaningful upgrades.

FlyingIrishMan

So this monitor: http://www.adverts.ie/hardware/samsung-p2250-21-5-1080p/1283235
I'm considering buying it, but its 200euro less than what it costs to buy it new.
From the picture it looks like the right model, but it sounds too good to be true. Any advice?

Monotype

The prices are probably inflated due to end of stock or old prices which weren't knocked down. I don't see anything special about it that would give it that value. New, you might be realistically spending just over the €100 mark if was in one of the cheaper places online, possibly a bit more locally. No more than €150.

It's not a bad deal considering the price I've seen a lot of monitors go for on there.

FlyingIrishMan

Monotype wrote: »

The prices are probably inflated due to end of stock or old prices which weren't knocked down. I don't see anything special about it that would give it that value. New, you might be realistically spending just over the €100 mark if was in one of the cheaper places online, possibly a bit more locally. No more than €150.

It's not a bad deal considering the price I've seen a lot of monitors go for on there.

I thought the 1,920 x 1,080 resolution and the 2ms response time was what made it the price so high.
Thanks for the help, I'll buy it if I can get it collected

ShadowHearth

FlyingIrishMan wrote: »

I thought the 1,920 x 1,080 resolution and the 2ms response time was what made it the price so high.
Thanks for the help, I'll buy it if I can get it collected

i got samsung t220, which is 22inch too but 1650x1050 resolution. it serves me as second monitor and does it well. looks great.


for 60 quid if you are on budget... why not?

FlyingIrishMan

ShadowHearth wrote: »

i got samsung t220, which is 22inch too but 1650x1050 resolution. it serves me as second monitor and does it well. looks great.


for 60 quid if you are on budget... why not?

I only have 40 at the moment, I'm sure my parents would give me the other 20, but then I also would have to ask my sister to go to Offaly and collect it.

Looks like its gonna be sold soon anyway, two more people want to buy it.

FlyingIrishMan

So, has anybody here ever ordered from Newegg.com and then had the part shipped to Ireland?

I was just looking at their site and everything is so much cheaper than hardwareversand (when converted to euros of course).
And then after a quick search I found this site: http://www.myus.com/
It gives you an american address to put down when ordering of american sites, and when they recieve the package they will forward it onto you.

I just did a quick look and for example,
A 2500k is only 175e.
A Sapphire 7970 is 425e.
Over 90e saving already if you ordered from hardwareversand.

Monotype

You would have to pay import duties and VAT. Not worth it.

ShadowHearth

Monotype wrote: »

You would have to pay import duties and VAT. Not worth it.

This. Don't bother with anything outside the eu

I had ordered some parts from Japan for my cars and that works out really expencive with taxes and delivery charges. It's not like I had choise too.
Stay with eu based stuff. Even some uk websites have better prices, but they don't ship to Ireland. Ebuyer.co.uk was great back then...

Brian

Monotype wrote: »

You would have to pay import duties and VAT. Not worth it.

Not to mention the RMA process would be a real pain.

Bonesy.

Lads just wondering would a Z68 motherboard be compatablie with an i3 2120? Gonna upgrade to i5-2500k down the line, waiting for prices to drop abit, anyone know if they are due to drop?

FlyingIrishMan

Bonesy. wrote: »

Lads just wondering would a Z68 motherboard be compatablie with an i3 2120? Gonna upgrade to i5-2500k down the line, waiting for prices to drop abit, anyone know if they are due to drop?

When Ivy Bridge come out they'll probably drop a bit.

Monotype

... and yes, it would be compatible.

You should also be able to use the Ivy Bridge CPUs too.

Bonesy.

Thanks lads

ShadowHearth

they wont drop that much to be honest. there is article posted in hardware thread. it will drop just by 10$.

i would just bite the bullet and get 2500k now.