N69/N22/N70 Tralee Bypass

Bigfellalixnaw

Will the bypass be open by the end of July?

carchaeologist

Adro947 wrote: »

Will the roundabout at Ballycarty (John Cronin roundabout?) remain or be removed?

Talking to one of the Council engineers whos name escapes about this moment, she reckoned that in time that it very well could be removed, it would make sense really as its only a three exit roundabout as it is, and with the old road demoted to a local road it's hardly needed.

carchaeologist

traleespud wrote: »

Does anyone know anything about the slip road at the new ballinoring over pass, the one that will bring traffic down by Boyles Ind Est at the side of the Racecourse.

I over heard in Heiton Buckleys during the week that they were trying to make the road outside one way???

In other words to get to the industrial est you would have to access via ballinorig roundabout or from the main ballygarry roundabout. You wont be allowed to turn up from the clash road?????

Could make sense, as the road down to Clash from there is quite narrow, although traffic levels should be low enough?
Turning out into the road is quite difficult also at the end of that road.

hanamandiol

carghaelogist-been following your posts for months-you are well informed and your posts are most helpful-excellent photos-well done

traleespud

Think opening date has been further pushed back to the 25th.

carchaeologist

traleespud wrote: »

Think opening date has been further pushed back to the 25th.

Hardly surprising, as there still seems to be quite a lot to do yet, like fitting the post and rope centre barrier. Looking forward to seeing that go into place. The sockets in the tar to carry the posts are installed in the northern section of the road.

Also, as an aside to this, if you see mine, and others photos from this thread posted anywhere else other than here, its nothing to do with me. I have only ever posted photos here.

Quaderno

carchaeologist wrote: »

Could make sense, as the road down to Clash from there is quite narrow, although traffic levels should be low enough?
Turning out into the road is quite difficult also at the end of that road.

I think they could easily open up the existing road from the southern entrance next to Kerry Petroleum and around/in front of the former Amann building to go through all the way to Heiton Buckleys. That road is much wider and safer to turn into as well:

https://maps.google.ie/?ll=52.272628,-9.675779&spn=0.005679,0.016512&t=h&z=17

carchaeologist

Quaderno wrote: »

I think they could easily open up the existing road from the southern entrance next to Kerry Petroleum and around/in front of the former Amann building to go through all the way to Heiton Buckleys. That road is much wider and safer to turn into as well:

https://maps.google.ie/?ll=52.272628,-9.675779&spn=0.005679,0.016512&t=h&z=17

They could, and its a very valid point as it is indeed the better road, and has the most companies based on it, but they would have to probably buy the necessary land from whoever owns Amann now, I cant see that being an easy option, or a cheap one either.
I am looking forward to seeing the change in Traffic patterns in town in the next couple of months.

carchaeologist

Some serious landscaping going on at the front of the 'Quarry' section out by Ballygarry today, its going to look great driving through there in the middle section of it with all of the rock visible.
Must fix the puncture on the ol rothar and give a spin down along the route this week again what with all this magical heat that's coming from the sky!:)

delthedriver

carchaeologist wrote: »

Some serious landscaping going on at the front of the 'Quarry' section out by Ballygarry today, its going to look great driving through there in the middle section of it with all of the rock visible.
Must fix the puncture on the ol rothar and give a spin down along the route this week again what with all this magical heat that's coming from the sky!:)

Take out one of the petrol guzzlers with the Rothar in the back. Continue your contribution to Global warming and this fabulous weather.!:)

carchaeologist

delthedriver wrote: »

Take out one of the petrol guzzlers with the Rotherham in the back. Continue your contribution to Global warming and this fabulous weather.!:)

Looking forward to driving the 6/110 down the new road in the sun(hopefully)!
You'll have to exhume the XJ that day too!

delthedriver

carchaeologist wrote: »

Looking forward to driving the 6/110 down the new road in the sun(hopefully)!
You'll have to exhume the XJ that day too!

Ready and waiting!:)

carchaeologist

9/7/13

Seeing as its warmer than Spain this eve it was a good excuse for a walk, and even at 10pm its still roasting! Didn't go far, just along the Leith roundabout and a short bit back the bypass.

Some Machinery parked at the Tralee side of the Leith roundabout.
A JCB Vibromax VM 146 road roller and a Volvo A250 6 wheel dumper.


The Petrol Interceptor pond(I assume it is anyway?) at the Tralee side of the roundabout under construction.
According to our ex boardsie KCC,

A Petrol Interceptor is a chamber located between the road drainage network and the outfall stream which is designed to remove petrochemicals from the runoff before it is discharged to the stream. It acts as a Pollution Control measure.

Looking back towards the Leith roundabout from the dual carriageway.


Armco construction detail .


Komatsu WA470 Loader with a belt fed grading attachment for filling in the stone on the side of the road, a neat piece of design work too.


Post and rope socket detail in the centre of the dual carriage way.

ongarboy

Reading the Kerryman today, Kerry Co Co have advised that the bypass will open towards the end of July having missed a planned mid July opening due to some longer than expected completion works. Good to hear it will be open in time for the Aug bank holiday and Rose of Tralee.

carchaeologist

I wonder how many square meters of signage will be installed on the bypass, it's a hell of a lot! Most of it, if not all of it seems to be in place now.

MacLondon

I'd be especially curious about the sign approaching Camp roundabout from the south on the N22 - just to clarify what routes (N69/N70/N21) the left and right exits at the Camp roundabout will be part of.

enda1

How will this construction influence those driving to Dingle from Dublin? Coming up the N22 from Castleisland is there any benefit to taking this new road towards Camp? I can't see one myself but maybe people will be tempted to take the exit near the Caherleaheen national school and the little road west onto the N86 at Tonavane cross?

carchaeologist

enda1 wrote: »

How will this construction influence those driving to Dingle from Dublin? Coming up the N22 from Castleisland is there any benefit to taking this new road towards Camp? I can't see one myself but maybe people will be tempted to take the exit near the Caherleaheen national school and the little road west onto the N86 at Tonavane cross?

It would be a foolish move to take that small road instead of the bypass road wih the intention of trying to save time as that small road is not much bigger than single lane and has quite a few bends in most of its distance. Also there is a dangerous junction to cross on the N70 that's no easy task at any time of the day. It would be so much faster not to mind safer to travel the route on the National roads.
Time will tell what traffic numbers will be like around the place, but they should be reasonable enough with all the new Traffic routes that will be available.

---

On a more celebratory note within 50 views this thread will hit the 100,000 views mark! :cool:
Pretty incredible considering I started it off with no real plan of action other than to keep some sort of a photo record of the changes in the landscape with this huge project, Im glad so many of you though it was interesting enough to keep looking in on it and posting. Its been a fun learning experience.
Roll on the opening date now!

ongarboy

Thanks for inviting us all along on this interesting and facinating journey over the last few years!! These Boards records will be an invaluable historical collection of data for enthusiasts of the future generations to come. Imagine having comparable data as extensive as this when the railway line to Tralee was first constructed in the 19th century!

There is a real feeling of countdown mode now! I've been following media reports on the improvements of access to Tralee since the 1980s when a dual carriageway from Ballycarty to Rathass was first mooted, dismayed at the cancellation due to the Ballyseedy wood objections (although in hindsight I am glad those woods have been preserved now!) and delighted when the bypass got the go ahead despite the roads cutbacks nationally.

lottpaul

enda1 wrote: »

How will this construction influence those driving to Dingle from Dublin? Coming up the N22 from Castleisland is there any benefit to taking this new road towards Camp? I can't see one myself but maybe people will be tempted to take the exit near the Caherleaheen national school and the little road west onto the N86 at Tonavane cross?

That road is incredibly narrow in places and would only be worth it if Tralee was in total gridlock as in Rose of Tralee etc.

Off topic I know - and apologise - but when travelling from Dingle to Limerick/Dublin I always go via Inch, Castlemaine, Firies etc. Far less traffic and you'll make steady progess in spite of the lower speed limit etc.
(excl of course June, July and August when every bus and camper van in the country descends on that road )

enda1

At the moment I drive down the N21, turn left after Manor Park down Kilersk Close and onto Dan Spring Road out through Blennerville.
So will this new road really help do people think for this specific route? It looks much of a muchness from my point of view.
(Obviously it's great for other itineraries don't get me wrong and should hopefully relieve traffic on my route itself).

I'd never myself actually take the little road I mentioned, but I can imagine now with the new bypass that those trying to be a bit clever, especially when coming from Faranfore (or those blindly following a GPS) are more likely now to use it as it will become much more accessible. I'd fear that the non continuation of the bypass to the N86 could add unforeseen problems to this road.

Is there any distant plan to continue the bypass to the N86 maybe?

It's actually towards Cloghane I go, not Dingle (I just said Dingle because it was more well known).

xxyyzz

enda1 wrote: »

Is there any distant plan to continue the bypass to the N86 maybe?

It's actually towards Cloghane I go, not Dingle (I just said Dingle because it was more well known).

Highly unlikely I'd say. There is a proposal to have the ring road from somewhere near Blennerville to go through the Kerries and join the fat mile but at this point it's pretty unlikely also. I think if you scan back through the thread there is a map of it somewhere.

Edit: its this post

lottpaul

enda1 wrote: »

At the moment I drive down the N21, turn left after Manor Park down Kilersk Close and onto Dan Spring Road out through Blennerville.
So will this new road really help do people think for this specific route? It looks much of a muchness from my point of view.

It's actually towards Cloghane I go, not Dingle (I just said Dingle because it was more well known).

That's probably as good as it's going to be for the near future when heading to Castle/Cloghane. The bypass will let you avoid Manor West, which can be very slow at times, but you will still end up at the roundabout and then out to Dan Spring Road etc. I've taken the Caherleaheen Road from Tonevane a few times but to be honest it'd hardly be worth it unless you're talking about very busy times and even then you have to cross the N70 at a very nasty junction where the traffic races down towards Tralee.




And totally separately -- any sign of the "works of art" that now adorn almost every new road? Awaiting the photos with interest

spacetweek

enda1 wrote: »

Is there any distant plan to continue the bypass to the N86 maybe?

There's an N86 scheme on the NRA's site (no N70 schemes), but it only goes from Dingle to Camp. Nothing for Tralee.

carchaeologist

lottpaul wrote: »

And totally separately -- any sign of the "works of art" that now adorn almost every new road? Awaiting the photos with interest

Not yet, but they will appear, that's a certainty! Should be interesting indeed.

Sully34

carchaeologist wrote: »

I wonder how many square meters of signage will be installed on the bypass, it's a hell of a lot! Most of it, if not all of it seems to be in place now.

Well with all the sign companies in Kerry no doubt they will be getting them done on the cheap up the Country somewhere

traleespud

Sully34 wrote: »

Well with all the sign companies in Kerry no doubt they will be getting them done on the cheap up the Country somewhere

If you see the scale of the signage you'd prob agree that it was much to big a project for any regular signage company. I think it's all been done by the same company that are installing the post and wire barriers and crash railing etc. It's a specialised area and I don't think Kerry has a company that deals with this kind of work. I'm sure it would have been tendered out anyway which would be the norm!!!

carchaeologist

traleespud wrote: »

If you see the scale of the signage you'd prob agree that it was much to big a project for any regular signage company. I think it's all been done by the same company that are installing the post and wire barriers and crash railing etc. It's a specialised area and I don't think Kerry has a company that deals with this kind of work. I'm sure it would have been tendered out anyway which would be the norm!!!

Yes, this is why i asked earlier in the thread about the square meter size of it all. It's a serious amount of specialist work. Some of the big green main signs at the junctions and roundabouts are enormous and are assembled in sections, the mounting brackets almost seem too small for their job.

Speaking of tendering out work, the amount of fencing installed along the route is huge also. That was some job in its own right before anything was done.

traleespud

carchaeologist wrote: »

Yes, this is why i asked earlier in the thread about the square meter size of it all. It's a serious amount of specialist work. Some of the big green main signs at the junctions and roundabouts are enormous and are assembled in sections, the mounting brackets almost seem too small for their job.

Speaking of tendering out work, the amount of fencing installed along the route is huge also. That was some job in its own right before anything was done.

There's actually quiet a lot of fencing still going on in and around the farm entrances and cattle crossings. Duncan fencing I think are the contractors there!!! Tis fairly tedious work.

Post and wire is being installed at the moment from Killorglin road over towards main compound, little bit also from Ballybeggan up towards leith. Again a very tedious job the holes are drilled with an insert to take the post but the post are manually inserted by hand.

Tar plant is being dismantled Tuesday, the last of the surfacing is to take place over the weekend into Sunday.

With the intense heat the last week it's almost a stackable offensive for a machine to do a hard turn on the tar!!!!

carchaeologist

I think I have seen Duncan's vans around the place alright. Looked like some of the fencing was being treated with a preservative too down by Ballinorig, that's gotta be a slow job.

Is there a special machine or some sort of punch device that drills the tar for the post inserts? They are oval in shape, not circular.